Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mick
On Monday 24 Feb 2014 21:48:39 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > At least KDE has not hardcoded a requirement for systemd as Gnome now > > has. > > GNOME has no hardcoded requirement for systemd; do your homework. I beg your pardon, I got this wrong - I extrapolated from the Gentoo state of affair

[gentoo-user] OT(?) new linux cellphone

2014-02-24 Thread James
Gentoo on a cell phone next? http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-ubuntu-phone-is-official-let-the-madness-begin/#ftag=RSS56d97e7 enjoy!

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 23 Feb 2014 23:54:32 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mick wrote: >> >> [ snip ] >> >> > Well, I'm no authority on this since I can't code, >> >> My point exactly. > > I think your point is not valid, unless yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mick
On Sunday 23 Feb 2014 23:54:32 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Mick wrote: > > [ snip ] > > > Well, I'm no authority on this since I can't code, > > My point exactly. I think your point is not valid, unless you view Linux as an operating system intended for and i

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 24.02.2014 22:55, Mark David Dumlao wrote: [...] I didn't attribute anything to you you didn't say. It just so happens, though that there is a context to this conversation, which, if you ignore, just tends to perpetuate a lot of confusion. I am responding to questions and points in that conte

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > On 24.02.2014 18:33, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > Sorry but I think I was quite clear: > > An init daemon generally does one thing well. > Following a "Unix way" design, Everything else should be done by something > else. ... >> At least

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1 vs RAID 0 - Read perfonmance

2014-02-24 Thread Facundo Curti
Thank you all! :) I finally have all clear. I'm going to do raid 10. Any way, I'm going to do a benchmark before to install. Thank you!;) 2014-02-24 14:03 GMT-03:00 Jarry : > On 24-Feb-14 7:27, Facundo Curti wrote: > > n= number of disks >> >> reads: >>raid1: n*2 >>raid0: n*2 >> >> wri

[gentoo-user] Re: EAPI 4-python

2014-02-24 Thread eroen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:49:56 +0100, Fox wrote: > On 02/24/2014 04:32 PM, eroen wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:30:29 +0100, Fox > > wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I am trying to install an ebuild that used EAPI=4-python getting > >> the error: > >> > >> API of python.eclass in EAPI="4-python" not esta

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 24.02.2014 18:33, Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 24.02.2014 16:39, Mark David Dumlao пишет: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 24.02.2014 02:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: [1] For lack of a better term, let's just ca

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1 vs RAID 0 - Read perfonmance

2014-02-24 Thread Jarry
On 24-Feb-14 7:27, Facundo Curti wrote: n= number of disks reads: raid1: n*2 raid0: n*2 writes: raid1: n raid0: n*2 But, in real life, the reads from raid 0 doesn't work at all, because if you use "chunk size" from 4k, and you need to read just 2kb (most binary files, txt files, e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: EAPI 4-python

2014-02-24 Thread Fox
On 02/24/2014 04:32 PM, eroen wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:30:29 +0100, Fox wrote: Hello, I am trying to install an ebuild that used EAPI=4-python getting the error: API of python.eclass in EAPI="4-python" not established I googled the problem but there is not much to read (or at least I cou

[gentoo-user] Re: EAPI 4-python

2014-02-24 Thread eroen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:30:29 +0100, Fox wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to install an ebuild that used EAPI=4-python getting the > error: > > API of python.eclass in EAPI="4-python" not established > > I googled the problem but there is not much to read (or at least I > could not find much) and wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > > > 24.02.2014 16:39, Mark David Dumlao пишет: > >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff >> wrote: >>> >>> 24.02.2014 02:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: [1] For lack of a better term, let's just call systemd here a "system

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
24.02.2014 16:39, Mark David Dumlao пишет: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 24.02.2014 02:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: [1] For lack of a better term, let's just call systemd here a "system controller". What is this ONE thing a system controller should do and do it well?

[gentoo-user] EAPI 4-python

2014-02-24 Thread Fox
Hello, I am trying to install an ebuild that used EAPI=4-python getting the error: API of python.eclass in EAPI="4-python" not established I googled the problem but there is not much to read (or at least I could not find much) and what is there is old. So I wonder what is the problem with this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/02/14 18:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > >> As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas >> on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is >> causing the problem? > > The flag is masked

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-24 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > 24.02.2014 02:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [1] For lack of a better term, let's just call systemd here a "system >> controller". What is this ONE thing a system controller should do and do >> it well? > > > An init daemon generally does one

[gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread eroen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > moriah ~ # emerge gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon -vp > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-3.8.4:3/7 > USE="introspection -debug

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas > on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is > causing the problem? The flag is masked because it is an unsupported option. Unmask it by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libpng slot usage

2014-02-24 Thread Fox
On 02/24/2014 02:06 AM, eroen wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 17:54:07 +0100, Fox wrote: Hello, I am trying to compile fltk-1.1.10 both using an ebuild from [1] and with just the downloaded source. I think this version needs libpng 1.2 which is installed in one of the slots. Using the source code a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/02/14 09:31, eroen wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox wrote: >> Hello, >> after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned >> sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev >> and unmerge systemd. >> >> Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my mu

Re: [gentoo-user] technical review of systemd

2014-02-24 Thread thegeezer
On 02/23/2014 06:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:06 AM, wrote: > [ snip ] >>> Corrupt filesystems or logs? >> logs. currently if fsck runs anywhere on boot i get zero log about what >> was done, so i prefer to do this on a running system. / is obviously >> special,

Re: [gentoo-user] problem upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26

2014-02-24 Thread covici
Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On 24 Feb 2014 13:43, wrote: > > > > Hi. I am having problems upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26. It > > seems mod_perl and mod_python require > Anyway to fix this or am I stuck with the apache2.2 series? I was doing > > this in my normal upgrade process and I

Re: [gentoo-user] problem upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26

2014-02-24 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 24 Feb 2014 13:43, wrote: > > Hi. I am having problems upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26. It > seems mod_perl and mod_python require Anyway to fix this or am I stuck with the apache2.2 series? I was doing > this in my normal upgrade process and I postponed this particular mess > for qu

[gentoo-user] problem upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26

2014-02-24 Thread covici
Hi. I am having problems upgrading to apache 2.4.7 from 2.2.26. It seems mod_perl and mod_python require