Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] LENOVO Z510 + Dual Boot + Gentoo == True ?
On Saturday 08 Mar 2014 20:22:12 »Q« wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 08:23:21 +0100 Dan Johansson d...@dmj.nu wrote: I am considering buying a new Notebook and found that a LENOVO IdeaPad Z510 would fit into my budget and seems quite OK. Does anyone here on the list have any experience with the Z510 running dual-boot (Win8.x and Gentoo) that would like to share their experience? I have an Ideapad y510p that's dual-booting Win8.x and Gentoo. It shipped with 8.0 and after I got it dual-booting I upgraded to 8.1. It's not quite the same model, but I guess it can't hurt to type what I remember. I didn't take notes, because if I ran into any trouble it was my plan just to wipe the drive and install only Gentoo. I just flew by the seat of my pants, so I'm sure this isn't the smartest way to do things. My model came with a smallish SSD meant for caching. The SSD is sda and the HDD is sdb. Here's the current state of sdb, from gdisk: Number Start (sector)End (sector) Size Code Name 12048 2050047 1000.0 MiB 2700 Basic data partition 2 2050048 2582527 260.0 MiB EF00 EFI system partition 3 2582528 4630527 1000.0 MiB Basic data partition 4 4630528 4892671 128.0 MiB 0C01 Microsoft reserved part 5 1563490304 1870690303 146.5 GiB 0700 Basic data partition 6 1870690304 1923119103 25.0 GiB0700 Basic data partition 7 1923119104 1953523711 14.5 GiB2700 Basic data partition 8 1562466304 1563490303 500.0 MiB 0700 9 4892672 5199871 150.0 MiB 0700 10 519987221583871 7.8 GiB 0700 1121583872 1562466303 734.8 GiB 0700 sdb1-sdb7 existed on the drive when I got it. sdb5 is where Windows is installed. To make room for Gentoo, I shrunk sdb5 it and slid it to the end of its space using the GUI partition tool on System Rescue CD, which I think is gparted. I also used System Rescue CD to install Gentoo. It's important to boot System Rescue CD in EFI mode, at least for installing the bootloader. sdb8 is meant for an installation of System Rescue CD, but I haven't gotten around to installing it. sdb9 is /boot, sdb10 is swap, and sdb 11 is Gentoo / I emerged grub in the chrooted environment. I mounted sdb2 at /boot/efi, installed grub on sdb9 (/boot), and ran grub-mkconfig to make a config file for grub. The output indicated that it had found both Gentoo and Windows. The bios (or whatever it's called now) setup recognized grub as a new EFI-booting option and let me move it to first priority, and I got to the grub menu. grub booted Gentoo just fine, but Windows booting failed, something about not finding partitions or files. Instead of troubleshooting that, I disabled os probing for grub (GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true in /etc/default/grub) and added Windows via /etc/grub.d/40_custom , like so: menuentry Windows 8.x { set root='(hd1,gpt2)' chainloader /EFI/microsoft/BOOT/bootmgfw.efi } Running grub-mkconfig after that got me a grub.cfg which works to boot Gentoo and Windows, though I don't get any fancy options for Windows, such as safe mode. If you moved the MSWindows OS or boot partitions then the UUIDs would have changed. You'll need to edit the MSWindows boot menu (in the MSWindows boot partition) and change their entrie(s) accordingly. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] LENOVO Z510 + Dual Boot + Gentoo == True ?
On Mar 10, 2014, at 15:33, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 08 Mar 2014 20:22:12 »Q« wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 08:23:21 +0100 Dan Johansson d...@dmj.nu wrote: I am considering buying a new Notebook and found that a LENOVO IdeaPad Z510 would fit into my budget and seems quite OK. Does anyone here on the list have any experience with the Z510 running dual-boot (Win8.x and Gentoo) that would like to share their experience? I have an Ideapad y510p that's dual-booting Win8.x and Gentoo. It shipped with 8.0 and after I got it dual-booting I upgraded to 8.1. It's not quite the same model, but I guess it can't hurt to type what I remember. I didn't take notes, because if I ran into any trouble it was my plan just to wipe the drive and install only Gentoo. I just flew by the seat of my pants, so I'm sure this isn't the smartest way to do things. My model came with a smallish SSD meant for caching. The SSD is sda and the HDD is sdb. Here's the current state of sdb, from gdisk: Number Start (sector)End (sector) Size Code Name 12048 2050047 1000.0 MiB 2700 Basic data partition 2 2050048 2582527 260.0 MiB EF00 EFI system partition 3 2582528 4630527 1000.0 MiB Basic data partition 4 4630528 4892671 128.0 MiB 0C01 Microsoft reserved part 5 1563490304 1870690303 146.5 GiB 0700 Basic data partition 6 1870690304 1923119103 25.0 GiB0700 Basic data partition 7 1923119104 1953523711 14.5 GiB2700 Basic data partition 8 1562466304 1563490303 500.0 MiB 0700 9 4892672 5199871 150.0 MiB 0700 10 519987221583871 7.8 GiB 0700 1121583872 1562466303 734.8 GiB 0700 sdb1-sdb7 existed on the drive when I got it. sdb5 is where Windows is installed. To make room for Gentoo, I shrunk sdb5 it and slid it to the end of its space using the GUI partition tool on System Rescue CD, which I think is gparted. I also used System Rescue CD to install Gentoo. It's important to boot System Rescue CD in EFI mode, at least for installing the bootloader. sdb8 is meant for an installation of System Rescue CD, but I haven't gotten around to installing it. sdb9 is /boot, sdb10 is swap, and sdb 11 is Gentoo / I emerged grub in the chrooted environment. I mounted sdb2 at /boot/efi, installed grub on sdb9 (/boot), and ran grub-mkconfig to make a config file for grub. The output indicated that it had found both Gentoo and Windows. The bios (or whatever it's called now) setup recognized grub as a new EFI-booting option and let me move it to first priority, and I got to the grub menu. grub booted Gentoo just fine, but Windows booting failed, something about not finding partitions or files. Instead of troubleshooting that, I disabled os probing for grub (GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true in /etc/default/grub) and added Windows via /etc/grub.d/40_custom , like so: menuentry Windows 8.x { set root='(hd1,gpt2)' chainloader /EFI/microsoft/BOOT/bootmgfw.efi } Running grub-mkconfig after that got me a grub.cfg which works to boot Gentoo and Windows, though I don't get any fancy options for Windows, such as safe mode. If you moved the MSWindows OS or boot partitions then the UUIDs would have changed. You'll need to edit the MSWindows boot menu (in the MSWindows boot partition) and change their entrie(s) accordingly. Not necessarily. You can make uuid identical. It is just data on disk. Even if you change the order of partitions windows can be tricked with grub by changing the bios order of drives through mapping. After that windows boots without modification. I've tested this up to win7. Grub and dd are only tools you need. -- Matti -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
Hi, it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux box has killed / screwed up something. The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the slim.log is: slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information about the calling process I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: emerge xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse nvidia-drivers I recompiled the X-server. Nothing helps. What can I try else to get X working again? Thank you very much for any (quick;) help in advance! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
On 03/10/2014 08:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux box has killed / screwed up something. The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the slim.log is: slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information about the calling process I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: emerge xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse nvidia-drivers I recompiled the X-server. Nothing helps. What can I try else to get X working again? Thank you very much for any (quick;) help in advance! Best regards, mcc Sounds like a problem other folk encountered before. See https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-983068.html?sid=322897f0f12db44e211be450629bfbc1 for details. Hope this helps.
Re: [gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/10/14 22:05, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux box has killed / screwed up something. The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the slim.log is: slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information about the calling process I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: emerge xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse nvidia-drivers I recompiled the X-server. You might want to try emerge -pv @x11-module-rebuild instead. Gives 18 packages in my case. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJTHglLAAoJEK64IL1uI2ha4mwIAJWqD2ENlYBBeuQ9O68YrdGV etNVV0PWlBwGpm1vkHfdWgWSzPraR50uG6QvBXu/GERZHOvEv7k4fHh+dSZhIUm/ NxqvdG5maf7Xp7f3gFPUu32CSkrwnTMEQksrAuAtCVx9/N2D6N0JYFUtsulKJ0y2 mu8LW6oZBtIryH4+ZMXGs6mjbPsXF+CkfIdGiNnYg0L2wNAZrBtlQsdqOW9s2xKL R1ABH4f5IiOg7pnPEegsEBOb3bc7MHE6zhKr9dVQ3iHlxvfPWcMfnA3yg2mdYl7O sXIggapZyW2vkRtWyBvNkuWScqKyd3Rr1eLmDYXM+YBcHEWES7YuuU2rG98dnN8= =HXbC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com [14-03-10 19:44]: On 03/10/2014 08:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux box has killed / screwed up something. The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the slim.log is: slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information about the calling process I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: emerge xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse nvidia-drivers I recompiled the X-server. Nothing helps. What can I try else to get X working again? Thank you very much for any (quick;) help in advance! Best regards, mcc Sounds like a problem other folk encountered before. See https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-983068.html?sid=322897f0f12db44e211be450629bfbc1 for details. Hope this helps. Hi Alexander, thanks for doing a search for me...one feels a little crippled without X, firefox etc ;) Ok, for now I am knowing that I am not alone and that amd64 system are mostly affected. Furthermore startx works fine, slim does not (which does not mean that slim is to blame. May be someone finds what the bug... Thanks again! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
the the.gu...@mail.ru [14-03-10 19:52]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/10/14 22:05, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux box has killed / screwed up something. The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the slim.log is: slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information about the calling process I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: emerge xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse nvidia-drivers I recompiled the X-server. You might want to try emerge -pv @x11-module-rebuild instead. Gives 18 packages in my case. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJTHglLAAoJEK64IL1uI2ha4mwIAJWqD2ENlYBBeuQ9O68YrdGV etNVV0PWlBwGpm1vkHfdWgWSzPraR50uG6QvBXu/GERZHOvEv7k4fHh+dSZhIUm/ NxqvdG5maf7Xp7f3gFPUu32CSkrwnTMEQksrAuAtCVx9/N2D6N0JYFUtsulKJ0y2 mu8LW6oZBtIryH4+ZMXGs6mjbPsXF+CkfIdGiNnYg0L2wNAZrBtlQsdqOW9s2xKL R1ABH4f5IiOg7pnPEegsEBOb3bc7MHE6zhKr9dVQ3iHlxvfPWcMfnA3yg2mdYl7O sXIggapZyW2vkRtWyBvNkuWScqKyd3Rr1eLmDYXM+YBcHEWES7YuuU2rG98dnN8= =HXbC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hi, in my case the list is the same as given in my previous mail. The problem has something to do with glib and amd64. Investigations are in progress... Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] shutdown for non-root users?
Hi, how can I allow other (not-root) users to shut down system? I tried to add them to /etc/shutdown.allow but it works only for Ctrl-Alt-Del. When they try shutdown per command line (/sbin/shutdown -a -h now) they still get: shutdown: you must be root to do that! Usage: ... Is there any way to achieve this without installing sudo? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] LiveCDs for Uni students
Andrew Lowe agl at wht.com.au writes: I'm looking for a lightweight LiveCD that includes a graphical environment and gcc/clang so that we can make it available on our internal network for the students to download/burn and use at home. Does anyone have any ideas/experience in something like this? I've looked at Lubuntu but it lacks gcc. adding packages to *ubuntu* after installation, is trivial and part of normal system maintenance. As others have stated, you can use catalyst to create your own gentoo-derivative OS, thus controlling what software the students are using (hopefully). On most every install of linux, it's fairly simple and routine to downloand and install new software; so assess your goals of keeping them each rigidly on the same install base of whatevery distro you select to use. There are 2 differnt gentoo derivatives I'd suggest: Pentoo, is most excellent for the security minded. (weak on community support). http://www.pentoo.ch/isos/ Arch linux is fantastic for noobs. who want a Gentoo_ish distro! https://www.archlinux.org/download/ ymmv, hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown for non-root users?
If it's your home system and especial security is unimportant you can try next: chmod +s /sbin/halt and use /sbin/halt to achieve the same effect. You can use ACPI power button event (see /etc/acpi/events/default and uncomment appropriate line). Also there was method with dbus (searching the web will give suggestions). 2014-03-10 22:15 GMT+02:00 Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com: Hi, how can I allow other (not-root) users to shut down system? I tried to add them to /etc/shutdown.allow but it works only for Ctrl-Alt-Del. When they try shutdown per command line (/sbin/shutdown -a -h now) they still get: shutdown: you must be root to do that! Usage: ... Is there any way to achieve this without installing sudo? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. -- Regards, Nikita
Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown for non-root users?
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:15:13 +0100, Jarry wrote: how can I allow other (not-root) users to shut down system? I tried to add them to /etc/shutdown.allow but it works only for Ctrl-Alt-Del. When they try shutdown per command line (/sbin/shutdown -a -h now) they still get: shutdown: you must be root to do that! Usage: ... Is there any way to achieve this without installing sudo? Yes, but why do things the hard way when this is exactly the type of situation tat sudo is designed to handle. Allow selected, or all, users to run sudo shutdown without a password and set up an alias from shutdown to sudo /sbin/shutdown. -- Neil Bothwick A real programmer never documents his code. It was hard to make, it should be hard to read signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown for non-root users?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 09:15:13PM +0100, Jarry wrote Hi, how can I allow other (not-root) users to shut down system? I tried to add them to /etc/shutdown.allow but it works only for Ctrl-Alt-Del. When they try shutdown per command line (/sbin/shutdown -a -h now) they still get: shutdown: you must be root to do that! Usage: ... Is there any way to achieve this without installing sudo? You seem to be under the impression that sudo is all-or-nothing. There is a safe compromise. You can specify which commands, with which parameters, are runnable as toot by which user. E.g. my desktop is d531 and my regular user ID is waltdnes. I have file /etc/sudoers.d/001 containing stuff like... waltdnes d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/hwclock --systohc waltdnes d531 = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/openrdate -n -s ca.pool.ntp.org ...and I have a script ~/bin/settime #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/openrdate -n -s ca.pool.ntp.org /usr/bin/sudo /sbin/hwclock --systohc ...which sets my clock. You would want... userid machine_name = (root) NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown -a -h now ...in /etc/sudoers.d/001 *NOTE*. Use visudo to edit any sudoers file. Do not edit directly with vim/nano/emacs/etc. man visudo for further details. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications