Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use 80% of CPU

2014-03-20 Thread Gleb Klochkov
Tom, thank you for your answer. $ dmesg http://bpaste.net/show/187533/ $ cat /proc/interrupts http://bpaste.net/show/187537/ С уважением, Клочков Глеб 2014-03-07 22:49 GMT+04:00 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:02:32 +0400 Gleb Klochkov

Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use 80% of CPU

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:39:58 +0400 Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, thank you for your answer. $ dmesg http://bpaste.net/show/187533/ There this can be seen: [ 18.074574] [drm] Wrong MCH_SSKPD value: 0x16040307 [ 18.074575] [drm] This can cause pipe underruns and

[gentoo-user] Re: ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread James
Pavel Volkov negaipub at gmail.com writes: This is what I saw during last emerge of ca-certificates: What is the meaning of the message and how should I deal with it? Dunno. But, here is what I did. I just re-emerge ca-certificates: emerge -1 ca-certificates Here are the simple

Re: [gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:01:47 +0100 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I happily use git for local repositories to track configs in /etc or for example, /root/bin or /usr/local/bin (scripts ..) There is also etckeeper, yes, useful as well. But I would like to have some kind of

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:08:00 +0800 Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days, the mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of usage. Check `dmesg` and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for messages, warnings or errors;

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:52:55 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:16:36 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 16.02.2014 21:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sun,

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 04:05:03 +0200 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: How can you be sure if something is large enough if, as you say below, you do not care about probabilities? Statistics. If you do not care (= do not now anything) about probabilities (and mathematics, in general), you just

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:56:53 +0200 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: No, by arguing that fixing bugs in a 200K line program is as easy as fixing a bug in 20 10K line programs. It is just not true, just the opposite. So, as systemd is modular per the biggest myth #6[1]; that means that, PID 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:06:33 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: Real world code without mistakes and larger than Hello, world! exercises is not possible. Large systems must have error suppression and correction techniques, modular and replaceable design is one of them, KISS is

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 14:09:42 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I totally get XFCE *supporting* the use of logind, but why should it ever support *only* logind? That would seem insane to me. If it were a decision, and other decisions were possible without cost, yes; however,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Thursday 20 March 2014 11:55:07 James wrote: But, here is what I did. I just re-emerge ca-certificates: emerge -1 ca-certificates Here are the simple insttuctions I received: Installing (1 of 1) app-misc/ca-certificates-20130906 * Broken symlink for a certificate at

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:19:43 + thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: the difficulty is that without knowing It is as easy as following the commits upstream makes, which is a short daily visit (or for less important followers, even weekly); that's really not too much asked for if you

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:46:42 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: eselect manages config options between different implementation of a thing. Usually by tweaking symlinks. Switching init OpenRC - SystemD involves resetting uSE flags and recompiling some fundamental stuff. That

[gentoo-user] Re: ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread James
Pavel Volkov negaipub at gmail.com writes: * To batch-remove them, run: * find -L /etc/ssl/certs/ -type l -exec rm {} + Seems pretty straightforward to me.. Yes, I did this symlink killing, too. The messages I showed were displayed after that act (on next emerge, I don't if the

[gentoo-user] Re: Any source for recent gentoo vm appliance

2014-03-20 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: Anyone know if there is source for recent gentoo based vm appliances? A url or keywords for google would be well appreciated. This *may* help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-virtualization-software.html hth, James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:07:17 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: I don't know the code, sorry. Since I've already tried the 'eselect init' command, I'm pretty sure it doesn't install anything. While you might be able to code it to do such thing, it probably shouldn't; it's a tool

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:33:43 + thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: Personally i'm most likely to stay with openRC, because the switch is non-trivial and have no faith in the xinetd-style socket arbitrator. It should be trivial, it is here. but would eselect be able to script the

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: Gnome required systemd without alternative. Coincidence? I don't believe in them. I trust probabilities and statistics. Gnome doesn't have such requirement; alternatives are possible, it's not coincidence. I trust

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:50:24 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: All myself and others have been insisting on is that systemd proponents be prevented from unilaterally creating some kind of dependenc[y][ies] whereby, through that backdoor, they create a situation where the

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:46:42 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: eselect manages config options between different implementation of a thing. Usually by tweaking symlinks. Switching init OpenRC - SystemD involves resetting uSE flags and

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do you have a source that backs up this claim? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1chap=6 It comes as part of stage3, but a systemd stage3

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. How is this done? Here, two GRUB entries; alternatively, eselect init to switch symlinks. It's

[gentoo-user] eix target per dir

2014-03-20 Thread James
Hello, I often go to /usr/portage/target-dir and browse the packages under a given category; for example /usr/portage/media-sound Rather that looking at the packages one at a time, It be nice to use (perhaps gentoolkit options therein) syntax/options to list all the packages in a (dir) group

Re: [gentoo-user] eix target per dir

2014-03-20 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
James schrieb am 20.03.2014 21:58: Hello, I often go to /usr/portage/target-dir and browse the packages under a given category; for example /usr/portage/media-sound Rather that looking at the packages one at a time, It be nice to use (perhaps gentoolkit options therein) syntax/options

Re: [gentoo-user] eix target per dir

2014-03-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/03/2014 22:58, James wrote: Hello, I often go to /usr/portage/target-dir and browse the packages under a given category; for example /usr/portage/media-sound Rather that looking at the packages one at a time, It be nice to use (perhaps gentoolkit options therein) syntax/options

[gentoo-user] Re: eix target per dir

2014-03-20 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I often go to /usr/portage/≤target-dir Thanks guys! -c and -C are exactly what I as looking for. seems like I've used those before. Maybe the 'all' key is morphing into the ALT_heimers key... James

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 02:27:11 +0600 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do you have a source that backs up this claim?

Re: [gentoo-user] ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:51:19 +0400 Pavel Volkov negai...@gmail.com wrote: This is what I saw during last emerge of ca-certificates: There are some bugs for ca-certificates, list: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ca-certificates Of particular interest:

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/03/2014 22:33, Tom Wijsman wrote: Good, as you describe after this (cut out), I get the impression that the opposite is the case and there are not enough; a solution to that exists elwhere, in Funtoo, check out their Flavors and Mix-ins: http://www.funtoo.org/Flavors_and_Mix-ins

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails. I am on the list and don't need two copies. Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case, delete my direct email manually yourself) in your email program.

[gentoo-user] Re: eix target per dir

2014-03-20 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:58:55 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: The output should look something like this? media-sound/SmarTagger Description: Perl script for renaming and tagging mp3s snip media-sound/zynaddsubf Description: ZynAddSubFX is an opensource

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 4:00 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do you have a source that backs up this claim? Are you seriously challenging the FACT

[gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:15:32 +0100 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 02:27:11 +0600 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be.

[gentoo-user] Security

2014-03-20 Thread john
After recently reading about Windigo I am quesstioning how good my security is on my Gentoo box. I am only a desktop user with iptables and clamav installed and occasionally running chkrootkit. Would you recommend any other forms of security (snort, selinux, hardened etc) that I should be using?

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. How is this done? Simply by booting without init=. although some packages have been built with USE=systemd they still work when booting using openrc. Of course,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-03-20 Thread Adam Carter
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:08:00 +0800 Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days, the mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-03-20 Thread Mick
On Thursday 20 Mar 2014 15:51:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 01:08:00 +0800 Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm running a 64 bit KDE setup in a laptop. In the last few days, the mouse has become erratic and in fact dies after a bit of usage. Check