Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-22 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sun, 23 Mar 2014, null_ptr wrote: >On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: >>>"modprobe pcspkr" doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also >>>tried >>>building it in the kernel. >>> >>>On the other hand from what I understand the s

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 23.03.2014 00:45, schrieb null_ptr: > On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: >>> On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-22 Thread null_ptr
On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available & load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, "Dat G"

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: > On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: >> I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, >> but it >> prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available & load it. >> On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, "Dat G" wrote: >> >>> On 21/03/14 19:54, Fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there a known source of recent gentoo vm appliances?

2014-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/03/2014 00:23, Harry Putnam wrote: > thegeezer writes: > >> On 03/22/2014 09:44 PM, thegeezer wrote: >>> On 03/22/2014 08:58 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone post a known source of recent gentoo based vm appliances? One that will work with VirtualBox would be especially han

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there a known source of recent gentoo vm appliances?

2014-03-22 Thread Harry Putnam
thegeezer writes: > On 03/22/2014 09:44 PM, thegeezer wrote: >> On 03/22/2014 08:58 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> Can anyone post a known source of recent gentoo based vm appliances? >>> >>> One that will work with VirtualBox would be especially handy. >>> > was curious though - a quick google sear

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a known source of recent gentoo vm appliances?

2014-03-22 Thread thegeezer
On 03/22/2014 09:44 PM, thegeezer wrote: > On 03/22/2014 08:58 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Can anyone post a known source of recent gentoo based vm appliances? >> >> One that will work with VirtualBox would be especially handy. >> was curious though - a quick google search shows http://gentoo-en.vfo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a known source of recent gentoo vm appliances?

2014-03-22 Thread thegeezer
On 03/22/2014 08:58 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Can anyone post a known source of recent gentoo based vm appliances? > > One that will work with VirtualBox would be especially handy. > > howdy what is it that you are hoping to achieve? 'gentoo' can be as little as the install cd or as large as a high

[gentoo-user] Is there a known source of recent gentoo vm appliances?

2014-03-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone post a known source of recent gentoo based vm appliances? One that will work with VirtualBox would be especially handy.

Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade

2014-03-22 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 22 Mar 2014, null_ptr wrote: >"modprobe pcspkr" doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried >building it in the kernel. > >On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be >doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on >the

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:52:56 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Thank you very much +1; I see some other features there too that can > > be handy, eg. subject RegExp simplification. > > Okay, the CCs have been removed; to anyone else wondering how to do, > you can tick the box of the field (here: CC

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:57:22 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I've installed that old favourite SysRescCD on a pen drive, following a > method I found on the Web to include a persistent file-system with all > the extras I wanted in, e.g., /usr/local/bin. > > It works well, except that I haven't fou

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:29:20 -0500 Dale wrote: > Will, since Tom finally got the point and changed his email program to > not CC his replies, it seems to me that Tanstaaf, others and myself > were right. It is based on preventing those off-topic replies from being made. I'm still very convinced

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 22 Mar 2014 18:42:46 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > --->8 > >> What other distros are suited for this use case? > > I've installed that old favourite SysRescCD on a pen drive, following a method > I found on the Web to include a p

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Dale
Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > On 22/03/14 14:48, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Helmut Jarausch wrote: Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. If someone insults yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/21/2014 5:57 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> How does one send email to*THIS* list, without being subscribed in >> the first place? A bugzilla mailing list is a different matter. > > I think that is the main and primary point. > > I loathe lists that allow posts from non subscr

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-misc/synaptiks crashes immediately

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:47:23 +0100 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Symptom: > Start synaptiks configuration module, get immedeately DrKonqi crash > report (trace attached, likely not much useful since I disabled debug > flags) Start either from kde systemsettings or konsole; the latter > gives > > a

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Mateusz Kowalczyk
On 22/03/14 14:48, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale wrote: >> Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>> Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! >>> >>> If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. >>> >>> If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:38:54 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300 > luis jure wrote: > > > > > el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió: > > > > > How to set this up per folder? > > > > rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default > > to

[gentoo-user] kde-misc/synaptiks crashes immediately

2014-03-22 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Hi there, since the last world upgrade last week synaptiks no longer works on my laptop. x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.7.1 kde-misc/synaptiks-0.8.1-r2 kde-base/kde-meta-4.11.5 dev-lang/python-2.7.5-r3 dev-lang/python-3.3.3 Symptom: Start synaptiks configuration module, get immedeately DrKon

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:28:25 -0300 luis jure wrote: > > el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió: > > > How to set this up per folder? > > rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default > to:" Thank you very much +1; I see some other features there too that can be

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:48:46 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale wrote: > > Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! > >> > >> If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. > >> > >> If someone insults you, reply b

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread luis jure
el 2014-03-22 a las 15:50 Tom Wijsman escribió: > How to set this up per folder? rigth-click on the folder, "Properties..." -> "Compose" -> "default to:"

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:35:50 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/21/2014 5:57 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > How does one send email to*THIS* list, without being subscribed in > > the first place? A bugzilla mailing list is a different matter. > > I think that is the main and primary point. > > I loat

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:56:17 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to > > not CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll > > respect that; that's a guarantee tha

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. If someone says something which is*technically* wrong, j

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:00:59 + thegeezer wrote: > [...] so my point over 5 weeks ago was not about the difficulty in > _finding_ the changes, Ah, thanks; I see. > but about keeping track of those changes and implementing htem. Here, I would agree with if you have a lot of other things to d

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 22 Mar 2014 18:42:46 Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: --->8 > What other distros are suited for this use case? I've installed that old favourite SysRescCD on a pen drive, following a method I found on the Web to include a persistent file-system with all the extras I wanted in, e.g., /usr/

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/21/2014 5:57 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: How does one send email to*THIS* list, without being subscribed in the first place? A bugzilla mailing list is a different matter. I think that is the main and primary point. I loathe lists that allow posts from non subscribers (libreoffice users),

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 22-Mar-2014 6:56 pm, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On 22/03/2014 15:12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > On 22-Mar-2014 6:39 pm, "Alan McKinnon" > > wrote: > >> > >> On 22/03/2014 15:00, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >> > On 22-Mar-2014 5:42 pm, "Brian Hesdorfer" >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/03/2014 15:12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On 22-Mar-2014 6:39 pm, "Alan McKinnon" > wrote: >> >> On 22/03/2014 15:00, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> > On 22-Mar-2014 5:42 pm, "Brian Hesdorfer" >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 22-Mar-2014 6:39 pm, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On 22/03/2014 15:00, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > On 22-Mar-2014 5:42 pm, "Brian Hesdorfer" > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 3/21/2014 9:53 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Since I don't have a lap

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread thegeezer
On 03/22/2014 01:00 PM, thegeezer wrote: > On 03/20/2014 06:42 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:19:43 + >> thegeezer wrote: >> >>> the difficulty is that without knowing >> It is as easy as following the commits upstream makes, which is a >> short daily visit (or for less impor

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/03/2014 15:00, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On 22-Mar-2014 5:42 pm, "Brian Hesdorfer" > wrote: >> >> >> On 3/21/2014 9:53 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Since I don't have a laptop, I'm thinking of installing Gentoo on my >>> USB 3 pen drive. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread thegeezer
On 03/22/2014 12:15 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > That way; you respect that I want to spent my time to be guaranteed to > be useful, I respect that you don't want to be CC-ed in follow-up > mails. Similarly; if someone is off-list; it takes a single mail to > keep me from sending additional mails. As i

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread thegeezer
On 03/20/2014 06:42 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:19:43 + > thegeezer wrote: > >> the difficulty is that without knowing > It is as easy as following the commits upstream makes, which is a > short daily visit (or for less important followers, even weekly); > that's really not

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 22-Mar-2014 5:42 pm, "Brian Hesdorfer" wrote: > > > On 3/21/2014 9:53 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Since I don't have a laptop, I'm thinking of installing Gentoo on my >> USB 3 pen drive. I'll use binpkgs from my desktop so that pen drive >> lives long. >> >> Has anybody tried

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:15:49 +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Here's something that works for the both of us: Request someone to not > CC you in a follow-up mail when you catch them do it, they'll respect > that; that's a guarantee that we can be certain that you are subscribed. I tried that, you cc'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:08:35 -0500 Dale wrote: > To the point about folks unsubscribing, if they do unsubscribe from > the list, it may be because they got what they want and do NOT want > any more messages. Or it may be because they are tired of the flow of mails, but yet they are still awaitin

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:57:40 +0200 Matti Nykyri wrote: > I agree. I think it is arrogant to disturb lots of people that have > done nothing to deserve it. People should be let to choose them self > what they wanna do with their lives. If they wish to disengage some > conversation, let them. Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Portable Gentoo (Pen Drive Linux)

2014-03-22 Thread Brian Hesdorfer
On 3/21/2014 9:53 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: Hi, Since I don't have a laptop, I'm thinking of installing Gentoo on my USB 3 pen drive. I'll use binpkgs from my desktop so that pen drive lives long. Has anybody tried Samsung's F2FS? I heard it performs better than the traditional ext4/xfs/et

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:34:53 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I disagree. Can we agree to disagree? > Your default position on things seems to be to favour the theoretical > position over the reality. I'm the opposite, being a sysadmin and not > a developer I'm a realist and not a theoretician. I w

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Dale
Matti Nykyri wrote: > On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 22/03/2014 01:46, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:34:55 +0200 >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> 2. A discussion forum. For these you do munge Reply-To: to be the list so all discussion happens on-list

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 22/03/2014 01:46, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:34:55 +0200 >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> 2. A discussion forum. For these you do munge Reply-To: to be the list >>> so all discussion happens on-list and is visible to all >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/03/2014 01:46, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:34:55 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> 2. A discussion forum. For these you do munge Reply-To: to be the list >> so all discussion happens on-list and is visible to all >> >> gentoo-user has always been the latter and all discussio

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Saturday 22 Mar 2014 00:28:04 Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Judging by replies so far, I'd guess not many at all. You can't >>> possibly know how many will or will not plonk someone. In the meantime >>> Dale, I think you are projecting. Chill out brother, chill out. Plent

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Mar 2014 00:28:04 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Judging by replies so far, I'd guess not many at all. You can't > > possibly know how many will or will not plonk someone. In the meantime > > Dale, I think you are projecting. Chill out brother, chill out. Plenty > > stuff in

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! > > If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. > > If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. > > If someone says something which is *technically* wrong, > just correct the facts wit

[gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. If someone says something which is *technically* wrong, just correct the facts without getting personal. Thanks, Hel