Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 7:13 PM, wrote: > On 11/21/14 17:10, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there >>> is >>> more at play here. It sounds as if a few "chosen" old guard >>> are going t

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

On Friday 21 Nov 2014 15:24:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 21/11/2014 17:08, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, "Matti Nykyri" > > > > wrote: > >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi > > > > wrote: > >>> > Do you

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On 11/21/14 17:10, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wrote: Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there is more at play here. It sounds as if a few "chosen" old guard are going to kick out more of the progressive and newer devs so that these fe

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

Am Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:32:16 -0600 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés : [...] > I highly recommend the article John Corbet wrote for LWN a week ago: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/619992/ [...] Thanks for the link, it was a good read. FWIW, I found this linked in one of the comments: http://uselessd

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM, wrote: > Interesting perspective that I had not considered... still, I think there is > more at play here. It sounds as if a few "chosen" old guard > are going to kick out more of the progressive and newer devs > so that these few. control the core distro. That w

Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 11:59:13 -0500, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > If so, we now have a great/easy recruiting tool for (new) folks to > test out gentoo. Another questions is has anyone seen reliable/valid > benchmarks on usb sticks to see which is faster? Is usb3 the fastest > and they are a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On 11/21/14 14:00, Paige Thompson wrote: On 11/21/14 18:14, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wrote: Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious what the fine and wonderf

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

Am 20.11.2014 um 21:16 schrieb Daniel Frey: > On 11/20/2014 11:16 AM, thegeezer wrote: >> yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to >> navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a >> prerequisite. >> does anyone know if you can get usb keyboards tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

Am 21.11.2014 um 18:25 schrieb Grant Edwards: >> Interesting. I ask for thinkpads and get two answers pointing to other >> brands ;-) > > You did not ask for/about thinkpads. > > You said you were currently running thinkpads. > > You did not say that you wanted to replace them with new thinkpa

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

Am 21.11.2014 um 20:06 schrieb Peter Weilbacher: >> On 20/11/14 18:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> But I like that trackpoint >> yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to >> navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a >> prerequisite. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On 11/21/14 18:20, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, wrote: >> Regardless, the smaller, cheaper embedded linux crowd is very unlikely to >> ever embrace systemd. Why? Glad you asks. Thousands of reasons, but, >> here are a few: It is very common in embedded (anything) to ru

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On 11/21/14 17:39, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > On 11/21/14 07:00, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés >> wrote: >>> It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't >>> seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although systemd wor

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, thegeezer wrote: > On 20/11/14 18:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > But I like that trackpoint > yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to > navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a > prerequisite. Just that it's pre

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On 11/21/14 18:14, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wrote: >> Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under >> serious consideration: >> >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo >> >> >> I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at >> gentoo_use

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On 11/21/14 07:32, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Paige Thompson wrote: >> I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux >> is not linux anymore: >> http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/ > I highly recommend the article John

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > > Regardless, the smaller, cheaper embedded linux crowd is very unlikely to > ever embrace systemd. Why? Glad you asks. Thousands of reasons, but, > here are a few: It is very common in embedded (anything) to run multiple > and often different rtos (rea

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On 11/21/14 07:31, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Am 21.11.2014 um 08:17 schrieb Paige Thompson: > >> I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux >> is not linux anymore: >> http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/ >> >> I kinda have to agree which is partially why I'

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:34 PM, James wrote: > > Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under > serious consideration: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo > > > I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at > gentoo_user think of this proposal. Old farts are > welcom

[gentoo-user] I shoot into my own feet: dhcpd installed...

Hi, (still struggling with my Arietta board...;) I did something really stupid: I emerged dhcpd on my Arietta G25 board (which runs Gentoo of course :) and rebooted...without configuring it (or anything else). BEFORE this [CENSORED] action /etc/conf.d/net was set to assign a static IP to usb0,

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

I may be misunderstanding, but isn't this cutting back the centralized development and a pushing for more extensive use of overlays? To me overlays cause a problem with packages overlapping each other too much because its the way their maintainers' ebuilds are written. If anything, I'd suggest co

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

141121 Giant Y wrote: > Hello, I am a Debian user and now want to try Gentoo. The first of many, hopefully (grin) ! Others have quickly helped you solve your problem, as is typical here, but there is also the long-standing Lilo, which continues to suit me. I don't know whether it has any difficul

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

141121 Rich Freeman wrote: > My personal sense is that in the medium-term we may end up > moving to not having any default at all, > just as with bootloaders, kernels, syslog, crontab, mail etc. > That is pretty-much the Gentoo way everywhere else when there are options. > As you already pointed ou

[gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?

Here's one, very, very interesting proposals, under serious consideration: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Distributed_Gentoo I'd be curious what the fine and wonderful folks at gentoo_user think of this proposal. Old farts are welcome to comment, even encourage to "constructively rant" exce

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

On 2014-11-20, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 20.11.2014 um 15:37 schrieb Sid S: >> In a similar vein, I would suggest https://system76.com/laptops. I found >> them after I purchased my laptop. Had I known, I likely would have gone >> with them and purchased their most expensive model. >> >> Fo

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

On Fri, November 21, 2014 15:35, Paul Klos wrote: > Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:06:24 schreef J. Roeleveld: >> >> I use VirtualBox on my laptop for testing and haven't had to add >> anything to >> GRUB_PLATFORMS ever. > > Strange, I couldn't get grub2-install to run without diving into > GRUB_

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On 11/21/14 07:00, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although systemd works great with it. My (personal) sense is that in the medium-te

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

On 11/20/14 15:20, Daniel Frey wrote: On 11/20/2014 11:16 AM, thegeezer wrote: yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from keyboard it does become almost a prerequisite. does anyone know if you can get usb keyboards that have the trackpo

Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

On 11/20/14 14:40, David Abbott wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM, thegeezer wrote: On 19/11/14 22:15, James wrote: Hello, Ok the latest release of livedvd is here: https://www.gentoo.org/news/20140826-livedvd.xml So my understanding is you can put this on a usb stick. Run gentoo liv

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

On Nov 21, 2014 6:50 PM, "Ivan T. Ivanov" wrote: > > > On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 18:38 +0330, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > > > Well I have no problem with it in linux. It always works in linux but I think there is a problem > > with alsa or some other linux related part. Because I have enabled the afte

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

On 21/11/2014 17:08, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, "Matti Nykyri" > wrote: >> >> On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi > wrote: >> >>> >>> > Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 18:38 +0330, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > Well I have no problem with it in linux. It always works in linux but I think > there is a problem > with alsa or some other linux related part. Because I have enabled the after > post sound in bios. > When I power in on the headp

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

On Nov 21, 2014 6:23 PM, "Matti Nykyri" wrote: > > On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi wrote: > >> >> > Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

> On Nov 21, 2014, at 16:15, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > > > Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual > > machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with > > NIC between reboots. They were cleared by removing power cord for multiple > > mi

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:06:24 schreef J. Roeleveld: > > I use VirtualBox on my laptop for testing and haven't had to add anything to > GRUB_PLATFORMS ever. Strange, I couldn't get grub2-install to run without diving into GRUB_PLATFORMS. I installed not too long ago and I've had to re-e

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

> Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by removing power cord for multiple minutes while rebooting. I got rid of the problem when i updated NIC's driver (

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

On Friday, November 21, 2014 09:34:30 PM wraeth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: > >Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the > >"quick > >install guide" > >onA http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/11/14 16:07, Matti Nykyri wrote: > Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of > virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've > had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by > removing power cor

Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

> On Nov 21, 2014, at 14:08, behrouz khosravi wrote: > > Hi. My problem is that when I log off from gentoo and login to windows, my > headphone does not work in windows. > Has anyone encountered the same problem? > Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of virtual machine? U

[gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

Hi. My problem is that when I log off from gentoo and login to windows, my headphone does not work in windows. Has anyone encountered the same problem?

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > It's actually a great thing for a lot of use cases. But it doesn't > seem that Gentoo will change defaults soon, although systemd works > great with it. > My (personal) sense is that in the medium-term we may end up moving to not havin

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

Thank you. The problem solved. -> posted by *Giant Y* On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:34 PM, wraeth wrote: > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: > >Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the > "quick > >install guide" > >onA http://www.gento

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:57:57PM +0800, Giant Y wrote: >Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the "quick >install guide" >onA http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. Unluckily, I would actually recommend going through the handbook for your

Re: [gentoo-user]ask for installation help!

Op vrijdag, november 21, 2014 14:57:57 schreef Giant Y: > Hello, I am a Debian user and now want to try gentoo. > > Firstly, I install gentoo in Virtual box for practice. I follow the "quick > install guide" on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml. > Unluckily, this guide canno