Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Jan Sever
On 02/18/2015 12:13 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2015 22:51:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2015 20:41:06 Matti Nykyri wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display
 too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.

 This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng
 produces is plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some
 binary (i.e. unreadable characters) and that causes less to consider
 files to be binary and show them incorrectly.

 Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked /var/log/messages
 as a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no
 mysterious characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All
 you have to do is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did that
 with no ill effects.
 
 Actually, this is what I did, as I reported here on 26/12:
  
 1.Boot rescue system and mount main system
 2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log
 3.# mv messages messages.bin
 4.# strings messages.bin  messages
 5.# rm messages.bin
 6.Reboot.
 

When I had similar problem, I changed threaded(yes) to threaded(no)
in syslog-ng.conf and the problem disappeared. Maybe it helps you too.

-- 
Jan Sever



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked /var/log/messages as
 a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no mysterious
 characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All you have to do
 is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did that with no ill
 effects.


Uh, of what binary mark are you speaking?  Seems likely that however
you processed the file stripped it of whatever was causing less to
consider it as binary.  I don't think cat alone would do anything to
the file, but I'm not certain of that.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 17 February 2015 20:41:06 Matti Nykyri wrote:
  On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
  how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
  The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
  well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
 
 This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng
 produces is plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some
 binary (i.e. unreadable characters) and that causes less to consider
 files to be binary and show them incorrectly.

Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked /var/log/messages as 
a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no mysterious 
characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All you have to do 
is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did that with no ill 
effects.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 18 February 2015 00:23:19 Jan Sever wrote:
 On 02/18/2015 12:13 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2015 22:51:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2015 20:41:06 Matti Nykyri wrote:
  On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
  how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
  The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display
  too
  well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
  
  This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng
  produces is plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some
  binary (i.e. unreadable characters) and that causes less to
  consider
  files to be binary and show them incorrectly.
  
  Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked
  /var/log/messages
  as a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no
  mysterious characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All
  you have to do is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did
  that
  with no ill effects.
  
  Actually, this is what I did, as I reported here on 26/12:
  1.Boot rescue system and mount main system
  2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log
  3.# mv messages messages.bin
  4.# strings messages.bin  messages
  5.# rm messages.bin
  6.Reboot.
 
 When I had similar problem, I changed threaded(yes) to threaded(no)
 in syslog-ng.conf and the problem disappeared. Maybe it helps you too.

Good idea. Sounds like a bug report is needed, unless it's already been 
superseded.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 17 February 2015 18:52:07 Rich Freeman wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Peter Humphrey 
pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote:
  Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked
  /var/log/messages as a binary file. There's nothing in it that
  can't be read, no mysterious characters or anything; it's just
  marked as binary. All you have to do is to move it, then cat it
  back into place. I did that with no ill effects.
 
 Uh, of what binary mark are you speaking?  Seems likely that however
 you processed the file stripped it of whatever was causing less to
 consider it as binary.  I don't think cat alone would do anything to
 the file, but I'm not certain of that.

I don't know. Are we talking magic here?

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Package conflict while trying to emerge chromium

2015-02-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:09:43PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote
 Am Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:09:23 +
 schrieb Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk:
 
  
  On Sat, 14 February 2015, at 10:36 am, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
  
   Personally, I don't like that way of doing things, because unless you
   you completely deactivate Flash, Youtube will stupidly never attempt
   to use HTML5 videos
  
  YouTube have recently switched to HTML5 as the default:
  
  http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7926001/youtube-drops-flash-for-html5-video-default
 
 Excellent :-) !
 
 One minor(!) problem though: that does not include the current
 Firefox 35 (they say they enabled HTML5 video for Firefox *betas*).
 But starting with Firefox 36 I'll try running without FlashDisable
 and see what it's like.

  I'm running the Seamonkey-2.32 variant of Firefox, and Seamonkey is
nowhere near Firefox beta.  It seems to work on Youtube in HTML5.  A few
oddities, which may or may not be specific to Seamonkey...

- It has only 2 resolutions... 360p... and auto... which gives 360pG.
  This is the case even for 1080p demo videos.  Mind you, the video
  quality looks (to me at least) a lot better than 360p on Flash looks.

- There are 2 player sizes.  Default is the standard size that you're
  used to in the upper left corner of the screen.  Theater Mode expands
  to the full width of the browser.  The vertical size scales to the
  proper height for the aspect ratio.  However, it's not true fullscreen
  because you still see the browser frame/bars/etc, even if the browser
  is maximized.  On some other HTML5 video demos, you can right click,
  and get a menu which includes a Fullscreen item that gives true
  fullscreen.  But this does not appear on Youtube.

- Last, but not least, the cpu load is a lot lower when playing HTML5
  video than Flash video.  This is important to me, because I'm trying
  to run my 7 and 1/2 year old Dell (Intel Core Duo) into the ground.
  It refuses to die.

  I have multiple Seamonkey profiles, dedicated to specific tasks (You
can do this with Firefox, too).  It's ironic that the first profile on
which I can turn off Flash is my youtube profile.  I still need Flash
for NHL GameCentreLive, internet radio, etc.  Your version of Firefox
might HTML5 video now.  Try it.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] mtp stops working after system re-install

2015-02-17 Thread Walter Dnes
  I got around to upgrading my desktop from 32-bit to 64-bit.  The
only problem so far is that mtp connections to my tablet and smart
phone no longer work.  I've tried both mtpfs and simple-mtpfs.
The results are similar with both programs on both devices...

=
[d531][root][~] /usr/bin/mtpfs /mnt/drive1
Device 0 (VID=0bb4 and PID=0ca8) is a HTC EVO 4G LTE/One V (ID2).
Android device detected, assigning default bug flags
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first

[d531][root][~] modprobe fuse
modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found.
=

  They were working just before the re-install/upgrade from 32-bits
to 64-bits.  Any ideas?  Could it be a kernel setting that I didn't
set on the new kernel?

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 17 February 2015 22:51:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2015 20:41:06 Matti Nykyri wrote:
   On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
   how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
   The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display
   too
   well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
  
  This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng
  produces is plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some
  binary (i.e. unreadable characters) and that causes less to consider
  files to be binary and show them incorrectly.
 
 Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked /var/log/messages
 as a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no
 mysterious characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All
 you have to do is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did that
 with no ill effects.

Actually, this is what I did, as I reported here on 26/12:
 
 1.Boot rescue system and mount main system
 2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log
 3.# mv messages messages.bin
 4.# strings messages.bin  messages
 5.# rm messages.bin
 6.Reboot.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] mtp stops working after system re-install

2015-02-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 04:11:06PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote

They were working just before the re-install/upgrade from 32-bits
  to 64-bits.  Any ideas?  Could it be a kernel setting that I didn't
  set on the new kernel?
 
 
 Yes:
 grep -i fuse /usr/src/linux/.config
 CONFIG_FUSE_FS=m
 
 You can search the kernel config in 'make menuconfig' with / so just try /
 then fuse then enter

  Thank you very much.  It works now.  Actually, I sort of remembered
that entry, having set up the kernel from scratch several days ago.
This is what I get for trying to pare down the kernel.  I went into...

File systems  ---
  * FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) support

  I figured I may as well build it in.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] Open ansible UI (semaphore)

2015-02-17 Thread James
Hello,

I just ran across this community Users Interface for Ansible:

https://github.com/ansible-semaphore/semaphore

The requirements toinstall are there too.

I'd be curious if anyone has tested this already or other
alternatives besides ansible-tower.


James








Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 Feb 2015 23:13:08 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 February 2015 22:51:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Tuesday 17 February 2015 20:41:06 Matti Nykyri wrote:
On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display
too
well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
   
   This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng
   produces is plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some
   binary (i.e. unreadable characters) and that causes less to consider
   files to be binary and show them incorrectly.
  
  Yes, that was me. I found that something had marked /var/log/messages
  as a binary file. There's nothing in it that can't be read, no
  mysterious characters or anything; it's just marked as binary. All
  you have to do is to move it, then cat it back into place. I did that
  with no ill effects.
 
 Actually, this is what I did, as I reported here on 26/12:
  1.Boot rescue system and mount main system
  2.# cd /mnt/main/var/log
  3.# mv messages messages.bin
  4.# strings messages.bin  messages
  5.# rm messages.bin
  6.Reboot.

How often do you have to do this?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] mtp stops working after system re-install

2015-02-17 Thread Adam Carter
 =
 [d531][root][~] /usr/bin/mtpfs /mnt/drive1
 Device 0 (VID=0bb4 and PID=0ca8) is a HTC EVO 4G LTE/One V (ID2).
 Android device detected, assigning default bug flags
 fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first

 [d531][root][~] modprobe fuse
 modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found.
 =

   They were working just before the re-install/upgrade from 32-bits
 to 64-bits.  Any ideas?  Could it be a kernel setting that I didn't
 set on the new kernel?


Yes:
grep -i fuse /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_FUSE_FS=m

You can search the kernel config in 'make menuconfig' with / so just try /
then fuse then enter


Re: [gentoo-user] perl-cleaner lerfovers

2015-02-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Feb 16, 2015 11:26 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:35:15 +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

  What I've done on two of my gentoo systems is, what had been suggested
  in one of the earlier replies to this thread. I ran emerge -C `grep -i
  libs /var/lib/portage/world`, followed by emerge @preserved-rebuild.

 That could have been dangerous, unmerging important libs just because
 they have found their way into @world.

  While on another one of my systems I tried emerge --deselect `grep -i
  libs /var/lib/portage/world`, followed by emerge --depclean.

 That is far more sensible.

  As a result, I no longer have any libs in my world set.

 Or you could have done

 sed -i /libs\//d /var/lib/portage/world
 emerge -ca


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 All things being equal, fat people use more soap.

Thanks a lot for your feedback. I'm learning as I go.


Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:29 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

 Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
  
   The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
   well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
  
  
   --
   Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
   might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
  
  
  If you're talking about /var/log/messages, which is:
  messages: data
 
  I use cat(1).

 I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal
 files?

Those live under /var/lib/journal (which you need to create; Gentoo doesn't
do it by default last time I saw), in the directory named after the machine
ID (cat /etc/machine-id). And there are several journal files, of the kind:

system@1df50cd49c7f4a089c9414561f65aac7-0006f091-000507235df68768.journal

I think it would be really difficult to mix up that with /var/log/messages.

I think it's just that some part of /var/log/messages got corrupted
(happens a lot of times), and therefore /usr/bin/less identifies it as a
binary files since it contains non-printable characters.

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Lee.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 07:26:05PM +0100, lee wrote:
 Hi,

 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.

When I try less /var/log/messages, less gives me what is basically a
hex dump of the file.  I'm assuming you see the same.

less searches part of the buffer (presumably the first few KB) and if it
finds non-printable characters, uses an input filter first to convert to
the hex dump.  This same filter is what enables less to expand
compressed files and man pages.

What I do is to disable this input filter with

# LESSOPEN= less /var/log/messages

.  It is evident that every now and then, syslog-ng writes a stream of
several hundred null bytes to /var/log/messages.  It seems to do this
when logging the system startup messages.  This is probably a bug.

By the way, the LESSOPEN= trick can sometimes leave your display
corrupted, displaying wierd glyphs on the screen when you type.  To
restore your screen, output ^o.  To do this, type (blindly)

# echo ctrl-vcrtl-oCR

.

 -- 
 Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
 might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:

 Hi,

 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.


 --
 Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
 might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.


If you're talking about /var/log/messages, which is:
messages: data

I use cat(1).


[gentoo-user] Re: syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 17/02/15 20:26, lee wrote:

Hi,

how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.


As others said, it's probably a bug and /var/log/messages is actually 
really a text file.


FWIW, I'm on syslog-ng 3.6.2 and it seems to not have this bug.




Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:

 Hello, Lee.

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 07:26:05PM +0100, lee wrote:
 Hi,

 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.

 When I try less /var/log/messages, less gives me what is basically a
 hex dump of the file.  I'm assuming you see the same.

Yes, that's what I was looking at.

 less searches part of the buffer (presumably the first few KB) and if it
 finds non-printable characters, uses an input filter first to convert to
 the hex dump.

Is that a new feature of less?  I've never had this problem with any
other file.  IIRC, unprintable characters, like null, used to be
displayed like ^@, and less always did a great job in preventing the
display from needing a reset without switching to an equivalent of
hexl-mode.


BTW, what happens when something writes to /var/log/messages?  I noticed
today that the default shorewall.conf that ships with gentoo has that
set as logfile for shorewall.  Shouldn't all messages going into
/var/log/messages go to syslog-ng instead when syslog-ng is used, with
nothing else writing to this file?


-- 
Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Feb 17, 2015, at 20:26, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
 
 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.

This was discussed earlier on this list... Actually what syslog-ng produces is 
plain text. There seemed to be a bug that creates some binary (i.e. unreadable 
characters) and that causes less to consider files to be binary and show them 
incorrectly.

To work around you can use -r flag with less, or replace/remove unreadable 
chars from log, or delete the log file.

-- 
-Matti


[gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread lee
Hi,

how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.


-- 
Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 Hi,

 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.

That's news to me.  Are you sure you're not looking at wtmp or
something like that (which isn't maintained by syslog)?

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Alexander Kapshuk 
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:

 Hi,

 how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?

 The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
 well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.


 --
 Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
 might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.


 If you're talking about /var/log/messages, which is:
 messages: data

 I use cat(1).


Just tried 'sed p /var/log/messages', which seems to work as well.


Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread covici
Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
 
  The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
  well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
 
 
  --
  Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
  might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
 
 
 If you're talking about /var/log/messages, which is:
 messages: data
 
 I use cat(1).

I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal
files?

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 Feb 2015 19:17:20 lee wrote:
 Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes:
  Hello, Lee.
  
  On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 07:26:05PM +0100, lee wrote:
  Hi,
  
  how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
  
  The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
  well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
  
  When I try less /var/log/messages, less gives me what is basically a
  hex dump of the file.  I'm assuming you see the same.
 
 Yes, that's what I was looking at.
 
  less searches part of the buffer (presumably the first few KB) and if it
  finds non-printable characters, uses an input filter first to convert to
  the hex dump.
 
 Is that a new feature of less?  I've never had this problem with any
 other file.  IIRC, unprintable characters, like null, used to be
 displayed like ^@, and less always did a great job in preventing the
 display from needing a reset without switching to an equivalent of
 hexl-mode.
 
 
 BTW, what happens when something writes to /var/log/messages?  I noticed
 today that the default shorewall.conf that ships with gentoo has that
 set as logfile for shorewall.  Shouldn't all messages going into
 /var/log/messages go to syslog-ng instead when syslog-ng is used, with
 nothing else writing to this file?

It depends on what filters have been set in the configuration file of the 
application in question or syslog-ng.

I use less -L /var/log/messages to see the content of the log files in plain 
text.  At boot up I get a load of:

Feb 16 07:54:04 
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
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^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ kernel: Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Feb 16 07:54:04 
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^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@

being printed up.  Perhaps I will disable cgroups in the kernel and see what 
gives.  I don't use containers anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Package conflict while trying to emerge chromium

2015-02-17 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:09:23 +
schrieb Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk:

 
 On Sat, 14 February 2015, at 10:36 am, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  Personally, I don't like that way of doing things, because unless you
  completely deactivate Flash, Youtube will stupidly never attempt to use 
  HTML5
  videos
 
 YouTube have recently switched to HTML5 as the default:
 
 http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7926001/youtube-drops-flash-for-html5-video-default

Excellent :-) !

One minor(!) problem though: that does not include the current Firefox 35
(they say they enabled HTML5 video for Firefox *betas*).  But starting with
Firefox 36 I'll try running without FlashDisable and see what it's like.

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Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-02-17 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:45:38 -0600
schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:29 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 
  Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:26 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
  
Hi,
   
how do you read the log files when using syslog-ng?
   
The log file seem to be some sort of binary that doesn't display too
well in less, and there doesn't seem to be any way to read them.
   
   
--
Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons
might swallow us.  Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
   
   
   If you're talking about /var/log/messages, which is:
   messages: data
  
   I use cat(1).
 
  I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal
  files?
 
 Those live under /var/lib/journal (which you need to create; Gentoo doesn't
 do it by default last time I saw)
[...]

It did on my laptop after I migrated it to systemd over the weekend (on a whim,
no less -- apparently I'm adventurous?). Or, to be more precise, I didn't have
to create the directory myself. And wouldn't it be created at run-time, anyway?
That's what I would expect, at least.

[...]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Package conflict while trying to emerge chromium

2015-02-17 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 14 February 2015, at 10:36 am, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:

 Personally, I don't like that way of doing things, because unless you
 completely deactivate Flash, Youtube will stupidly never attempt to use HTML5
 videos

YouTube have recently switched to HTML5 as the default:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7926001/youtube-drops-flash-for-html5-video-default