Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native
HTML5 YouTube Playback
Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has
been delayed.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote: More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. If they suck, they're not worth issuing, are they ? I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never know if I cd improve them, but it doesn't follow that no-one else could. They give you the information you need to update your question. You don't need to be a Gentoo developer to contribute to portage. They have a mailing list and all patches are posted there for review, Gentoo dev or not. If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue, which is being raised more often on the Gentoo User list. It wasn't meant that way -- I was trying to point out that this is one of those problems that sounds easy but turns out to be incredibly hard. Dependency resolution is already slow when it only takes your installed packages into account. It would take oh-so-much longer if you wanted to consider what if questions involving the entire tree. And most of the suggestions it would come up with are indeed ridiculous. Uninstalling a few things in @world will probably solve your conflict. Is that not a valid suggestion in some cases? Why not? Can you determine those cases automatically without input from the user? I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's deceptively hard to (automatically) come up with a list of non-ridiculous suggestions before the user in question dies of old age. Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1425/ I'm aware of the scope of the problem, and I'm not asking portage to infer what I might want or suggest solutions I didn't ask for. Besides, what I want is already unambiguously defined by world and the contents of /etc/portage/. I'd be much happier if portage took the information *it already has* and formatted it's output as something a tad more parseable to human brains. Right now what it's doing is the equivalent of a core dump with an attitude of ah, fuck it, I give up. Here, you figure this shit out. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 24.04.2015 13:56, J. Roeleveld wrote: dracut has to assemble /dev/md3 at first (this is the single PV in the VG VG01) and /dev/VG01/genroot then is the filesystem with the new gentoo-rootfs I only added stuff like rd.md=1 etc ... I think I got the assembling wrong. And maybe even the root= option. This is one of the reasons why I have given up on genkernel and dracut for initramfs creation and now simply build my own and have it integrated into the kernel: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep INITRAMFS_SOURCE CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=/usr/src/initramfs/config If you're interested I will send you the required files. Yes, I am. I looked at generating it via dracut and get confused a bit. I try to generate it on another gentoo-host by editing a specific dracut.conf whic contains the md-related lines: kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=6a6226ed:87d41201:76269125:1a17f6a4 kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=2d6cd278:5f966c0f:ac5ed5c3:5a0bb8f5 kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=b492f31d:96bfca88:8cd97590:ad997d2c kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=e848b637:ca2bde73:9f92f3cc:128cdbad (to assemble the raid-arrays at boot) I run dracut -m lvm mdraid bash -c dracut.conf -f init2.img 3.18.9-gentoo and it ends with: *** Store current command line parameters *** Stored kernel commandline: rd.md.uuid=6a6226ed:87d41201:76269125:1a17f6a4 rd.md.uuid=2d6cd278:5f966c0f:ac5ed5c3:5a0bb8f5 rd.md.uuid=b492f31d:96bfca88:8cd97590:ad997d2c rd.md.uuid=e848b637:ca2bde73:9f92f3cc:128cdbad root=UUID=6eafd21c-c5f4-496d-bb90-ab4dc0a2c93c rootflags=rw,noatime,stripe=64,data=ordered rootfstype=ext4 *** Creating image file *** *** Creating image file done *** ... so the root= is looked up from the host I run the command on and not fitting the target machine ... etc etc hmm Does root= inside the grub-config override these lines? Should I use dracut --no-hostonly-cmdline ? Way too much variables in here ... especially when I can't just press Reset and try again. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native
HTML5 YouTube Playback
Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has
been delayed.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native
HTML5 YouTube Playback
Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has
been delayed.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
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On 2015-04-26 10:49, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Hello, Gentoo.
When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film
clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting,
more and more frequently, the error message (from You Tube):
Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video
formats available. Click here to visit our frequently asked
questions about HTML5 video.
Fair enough. The connection between the first and second sentences
is a bit vague, but I surmise from them that the video is available
in HTML5 format (whatever that is) and the link will instruct me on
setting it up.
Not a bit of it! That link, https://www.youtube.com/html5, says
this:
Many YouTube videos will play using HTML5 in supported browsers.
You can request that the HTML5 player be used if your browser
doesn't use it by default.
If you encounter any problems, right-click on the player and
choose report playback issue, or let us know on the user support
forums. Your feedback will help us continue to improve the
player.
, without telling me _how_ I can request that the HTML5 player be
used. Exactly what the player is that I should right-click on
remains obscure.
I feel that I'm missing some crucial piece of information which is
obvious to everybody else. I'd like to view these video clips.
Any help people can offer me would be gratefully received.
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox
31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo)
-pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg
-system-libvpx -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
Thanks!
One of the ways to get H.264 video to work is to enable USE=gstreamer
on Firefox, which will allow Firefox to use any plugin that GStreamer
1.x supports. If you then also set USE=ffmpeg on gst-plugins-meta,
you will have GStreamer supporting any codec that ffmpeg or libav
(whichever you have installed) supports. If you set USE=x264 on
gst-plugins-meta, you will get H.264 support via libx264 as well. One
of those options should get you support for viewing H.264 videos on
Firefox.
- --
Jonathan Callen
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Howdy, I have a 3TB hard drive that I use for my /home partition. I'm going to be having to expand this before to long, lots of videos on there. The 4TB is a bit pricey and I would end up having to expand that to before to long. So, I got to thinking, why not buy another 3TB drive and just add that which would double my space. I use LVM by the way. I may try BTFS, (sp?). Either way, adding a drive shouldn't be to much of a problem. On one hand, adding a drive would double my space. It would also spread out my stuff in the event a drive failed. On the other hand, one more drive to have spinning that could fail too. These large drives makes me wonder sometimes. What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? Dale P. S. Filesystem Size Used AvailUse% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Home2-Home2 2.7T 1.8T 945G 66% /home
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:24, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been
rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube
for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With
Native HTML5 YouTube Playback
A little bit OT, but does anyone know how to satisfy Firefox's need for audio
device. If I have no asound.conf Firefox will use hw0,0 for audio output. If I
set asound to:
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
device 0
}
ctl.!default {
type control
card 0
device 0
}
Sorry. Wrote this from memory so there might be a typo somewhere. With these
settings Firefox don't playback anything... Other applications and flash plugin
works perfectly.
How could I get firefox to use hw0,3 or hw1,3 for HTML5 audio playback?
--
-Matti
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
On 04/26/2015 04:48 PM, james wrote: One simple fix is this blockage of packages that do not need to be blocked. When I wait more than 5 or 6 days to update, I often get many packages to build, running something like 'emerge -uDNvp world'. Yes I know I can sit there and go through every package with --ask, but that is a huge waist of time, particularly if you poll user desires. So I find all the packages (ugly little cut|awk|sed|paste script) and install everything that is not really block. Source update and then concentrate on the actual blockage. I'd be surprised if this is anything other than a trivial fix to portage (hello no, I'm not working on portage!; Zac is very smart and capable and look how he struggles...). File a bug for this! I've wished for it myself. Maybe it's easy to do and it doesn't exist because nobody has asked.
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem compiling dev-lang/gdl-0.9.4
Sorry, the subject in my previous message was wrong. Marco 2015-04-28 15:53 GMT+0200, marco restelli mreste...@gmail.com: Hi all, I am trying to install dev-lang/gdl-0.9.4 but I see the following error: -- Could NOT find PLPLOT (missing: PLPLOT_LIBRARIES) CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:313 (message): plplot library is required but was not found. Use -DPLPLOTDIR=DIR to specify the plplot directory tree. (suitable Debian/Ubuntu packages: libplplot-dev, [plplot9-driver-xwin])(suitable Fedora package: plplot-devel) I have plplot with use flags * Found these USE flags for sci-libs/plplot-5.11.0: U I + + X: Add support for X11 - - ada : Add bindings for the ADA programming language + + cairo: Enable support for the cairo graphics library + + cxx : Build support for C++ (bindings, extra libraries, code generation, ...) - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is recommended to enable per package instead of globally + + dynamic : Build with dynamic drivers - - examples : Install examples, usually source code + + fortran : Add support for fortran - - gd : Add support for media-libs/gd (to generate graphics on the fly) - - java : Add support for Java + + jpeg : Add JPEG image support + + latex: Add support for LaTeX (typesetting package) + + lua : Enable Lua scripting support - - ocaml: Add support/bindings for the Ocaml language - - octave : Add bindings for sci-mathematics/octave + + pdf : Add general support for PDF (Portable Document Format), this replaces the pdflib and cpdflib flags - - pdl : Add bindings for dev-perl/PDL + + png : Add support for libpng (PNG images) - - python : Add optional support/bindings for the Python language + + python_targets_python2_7 : Build with Python 2.7 - - qhull: Add bindings for media-libs/qhull + + qt4 : Add support for the Qt GUI/Application Toolkit version 4.x - - shapefile: Enable support for ESRI shapefiles + + svg : Add support for SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) - - tcl : Add support the Tcl language - - test : Workaround to pull in packages needed to run with FEATURES=test. Portage-2.1.2 handles this internally, so don't set it in make.conf/package.use anymore - - threads : Add threads support for various packages. Usually pthreads - - tk : Add support for Tk GUI toolkit + + truetype : Add support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts - - wxwidgets: Add support for wxWidgets/wxGTK GUI toolkit Does anybody have a suggestion? Thank you, Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
I believe that option is just a choice between using the libvpx bundled with
firefox (as recommended by mozilla) and using the system wide libvpx.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native
HTML5 YouTube Playback
I'm using firefox 37 and it has always used the flash player. It has fallen
back
on HTML5 a few times because the flash plugin crashed. It uses flash even if I
open a private session (no cookies) or even if I move the ~/.mozilla
directory, It also says on that page that the option to switch between HTML5
and Flash was removed on firefox 33 and I still have it so they must have
changed their mind.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
[gentoo-user] Problem compiling sci-libs/plplot-5.11.0
Hi all, I am trying to install dev-lang/gdl-0.9.4 but I see the following error: -- Could NOT find PLPLOT (missing: PLPLOT_LIBRARIES) CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:313 (message): plplot library is required but was not found. Use -DPLPLOTDIR=DIR to specify the plplot directory tree. (suitable Debian/Ubuntu packages: libplplot-dev, [plplot9-driver-xwin])(suitable Fedora package: plplot-devel) I have plplot with use flags * Found these USE flags for sci-libs/plplot-5.11.0: U I + + X: Add support for X11 - - ada : Add bindings for the ADA programming language + + cairo: Enable support for the cairo graphics library + + cxx : Build support for C++ (bindings, extra libraries, code generation, ...) - - doc : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is recommended to enable per package instead of globally + + dynamic : Build with dynamic drivers - - examples : Install examples, usually source code + + fortran : Add support for fortran - - gd : Add support for media-libs/gd (to generate graphics on the fly) - - java : Add support for Java + + jpeg : Add JPEG image support + + latex: Add support for LaTeX (typesetting package) + + lua : Enable Lua scripting support - - ocaml: Add support/bindings for the Ocaml language - - octave : Add bindings for sci-mathematics/octave + + pdf : Add general support for PDF (Portable Document Format), this replaces the pdflib and cpdflib flags - - pdl : Add bindings for dev-perl/PDL + + png : Add support for libpng (PNG images) - - python : Add optional support/bindings for the Python language + + python_targets_python2_7 : Build with Python 2.7 - - qhull: Add bindings for media-libs/qhull + + qt4 : Add support for the Qt GUI/Application Toolkit version 4.x - - shapefile: Enable support for ESRI shapefiles + + svg : Add support for SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) - - tcl : Add support the Tcl language - - test : Workaround to pull in packages needed to run with FEATURES=test. Portage-2.1.2 handles this internally, so don't set it in make.conf/package.use anymore - - threads : Add threads support for various packages. Usually pthreads - - tk : Add support for Tk GUI toolkit + + truetype : Add support for FreeType and/or FreeType2 fonts - - wxwidgets: Add support for wxWidgets/wxGTK GUI toolkit Does anybody have a suggestion? Thank you, Marco
Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote: More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. If they suck, they're not worth issuing, are they ? I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never know if I cd improve them, but it doesn't follow that no-one else could. They give you the information you need to update your question. You don't need to be a Gentoo developer to contribute to portage. They have a mailing list and all patches are posted there for review, Gentoo dev or not. If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue, which is being raised more often on the Gentoo User list. It wasn't meant that way -- I was trying to point out that this is one of those problems that sounds easy but turns out to be incredibly hard. Dependency resolution is already slow when it only takes your installed packages into account. It would take oh-so-much longer if you wanted to consider what if questions involving the entire tree. And most of the suggestions it would come up with are indeed ridiculous. Uninstalling a few things in @world will probably solve your conflict. Is that not a valid suggestion in some cases? Why not? Can you determine those cases automatically without input from the user? I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's deceptively hard to (automatically) come up with a list of non-ridiculous suggestions before the user in question dies of old age. Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1425/ I'm aware of the scope of the problem, and I'm not asking portage to infer what I might want or suggest solutions I didn't ask for. Besides, what I want is already unambiguously defined by world and the contents of /etc/portage/. I'd be much happier if portage took the information *it already has* and formatted it's output as something a tad more parseable to human brains. Right now what it's doing is the equivalent of a core dump with an attitude of ah, fuck it, I give up. Here, you figure this shit out. +1 Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself
Hello Joost,
We are running Grub2. Bellow is my grub.cfg for Xen
menuentry 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, with Xen hypervisor' --class gentoo --class
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --class xen $menuentry_id_option
'xen-gnulinux-simple-43fa46d6-a602-4281-9493-66faec5c096f' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
fi
echo'Loading Xen xen ...'
if [ $grub_platform = pc -o $grub_platform = ]; then
xen_rm_opts=
else
xen_rm_opts=no-real-mode edd=off
fi
multiboot /xen.gz placeholder ${xen_rm_opts}
echo'Loading Linux 3.17.7-gentoo ...'
module /vmlinuz-3.17.7-gentoo placeholder root=/dev/sda3 ro
rootwait
This is starting to hurt
N.
Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
On 26/04/2015 23:28, Philip Webb wrote: 150426 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote: Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong, (2) what their choices are, (3) how to resolve the problem. The process goes something like this: 1. Become frustrated with the obtuse portage output. 2. Get familiar with the portage source code. 3. Develop an understanding of the dependency resolution process and all of the possible conflicts that can arise. 4. Come up with better ways to explain the error messages that are shown. 5. Never get around to writing the patch, because now you understand what Portage is telling you. That's far too much to expect of users : we're not dev's. More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. If they suck, they're not worth issuing, are they ? I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never know if I cd improve them, but it doesn't follow that no-one else could. Maybe the best solution to a conflict is to buy a new video card for $5, so that a newer version of nvidia-drivers will work, so that the new version of xorg-server will work, so that the new version of opengl will work, so that you can upgrade tuxracer. Portage can't figure out stuff like that. I'm not asking it to : citing extreme cases is a popular excuse for inaction. If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue, which is being raised more often on the Gentoo User list. All portage errors are essentially : you want something and you can't have it. Well, you said above that Portage doesn't know what the user wants (smile). The solution is then to adjust slightly what it is that you asked for, but Portage doesn't know what you really want or what you're willing to settle for, so the best it can do is give you the information you need so that you can ask it a different question. Users need advice from Portage re the range + type of questions to ask. Portage needs to list possibilities + alternatives, ok a short list. At present, it spews out opaque lists of things it can't do offers no assistance to users re what it mb able to do. I'm with you on this Philip. By way of example, here's the output I get every time I run emerge on my notebook: == # emerge -avuND world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: dev-lang/swig:0 (dev-lang/swig-3.0.5:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with dev-lang/swig-3.0.5 required by (dev-python/m2crypto-0.22.3-r3:0/0::gentoo, installed) ^ ^ dev-java/slf4j-api:0 (dev-java/slf4j-api-1.7.7:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with dev-java/slf4j-api-1.7.7:0 required by (dev-java/jboss-logging-3.1.4:0/0::gentoo, installed) ^ ^ Nothing to merge; quitting. === I know what this means, swig and slf4j-api are pinned (in the style of Debian) because other packages that use them require less-than-most-recent versions. Fair enough, that's a normal everyday occurrence. Now try infer the truth from the stated output. Note that I have no local masks that get involved, this output is from the state of the tree itself. This is the kind of query we are getting more and more often here on -user; old nvidia versions is also somewhat common but we Gentooers have always accepted that as part of the deal if we want to use ancient hardware. My example above was never part of the deal as I read it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: wpa_supplicant cannot find crypto routines
On 04/28/2015 09:59 AM, Justin Findlay wrote: I am unable to emerge net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1. I've encountered this on two systems now. The output included has been insensitively thrashed by thunderbird, so I've also pasted it along with some other info. https://gist.github.com/jfindlay/b3fc74bda7d4cfb5a2dc I'm wondering if I have an unusual USE flags situation that is causing this In lieu of an informed opinion (which you've not been offered yet) I can say that I emerged it today on two different machines, and your useflags differ from mine in that I do *not* have these enabled: ap eap-sim p2p wimax wps Makes me wonder if I should be enabling any of those.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/28/2015 08:24 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:01:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Personally, I like the ZFS approach and do it all in software, catching errors that RAID misses. The same is also possible with BTRFS, I have the impression (without knowing what I'm talking about) that BTRFS was created to be just like ZFS, minus the software licensing problems. Is my impression right or wrong? Kinda. Same sort of idea, and the licensing obviously has a big part in it. The underlying designs are different, which means that when fully mature each will likely have different pros/cons, which is great since we can all pick/choose what we need. The other difference is that ZFS is targeted more at enterprise / large-scale use, and btrfs is targeted more as a general-purpose filesystem that you might use on a single-disk PC. That isn't to say that either can't be used in either situation, but you can definitely see where there has been more focus in feature development. For example, with zfs you can not only have large pools of drives, but you can also bind them into smaller redundancy pools. So, you can have 10 raid6 arrays bound together which ensures that the scale of rebuilds is limited while giving you a common pool of space. On the other hand, with btrfs you can have a 3-disk raid5 and turn it into a 4-disk raid5 without having to copy/restore all your data (or you could turn a 3-disk raid1 into a 4-disk raid5, and even switch halfway so that half your data is in raid1 mode and half in raid5). That is the sort of thing that is handy in a small PC where you don't just have stacks of disks lying around to build fresh new arrays from, but less important for a big enterprise SAN where you don't need to add one disk at a time to a 40-disk storage unit. I'm sure many features exclusive to either btrfs or zfs will eventually make their way to the other. However, their differing focuses make it likely that some features will mature faster than others. And of course btrfs has been taking a fairly long time to mature - it just doesn't seem like as serious of an enterprise-y project. But, neither is Gentoo. :) -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.
Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native
HTML5 YouTube Playback
Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has
been delayed.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On 28/04/2015 10:39, Dale wrote: Howdy, I have a 3TB hard drive that I use for my /home partition. I'm going to be having to expand this before to long, lots of videos on there. The 4TB is a bit pricey and I would end up having to expand that to before to long. So, I got to thinking, why not buy another 3TB drive and just add that which would double my space. I use LVM by the way. I may try BTFS, (sp?). Either way, adding a drive shouldn't be to much of a problem. On one hand, adding a drive would double my space. It would also spread out my stuff in the event a drive failed. On the other hand, one more drive to have spinning that could fail too. These large drives makes me wonder sometimes. What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? Dale P. S. Filesystem Size Used AvailUse% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Home2-Home2 2.7T 1.8T 945G 66% /home When you're up into the TB range you run a higher risk of losing data than with disks of a few 100 GB simply because it's bigger and there are more bits that can flip [1]. When you use only LVM for this and nothing else, you have a high risk of losing everything if one disk fails. Why? Because LVM decides itself which extent it will put data on. Maybe a whole file is on one disk, maybe it's spread across two, because the software is designed so that you don't have to be concerned with that. The only thing that LVM does is expand your storage space as a single volume and make it easier to shuffle things around without having to backup/repartition/restore. The best solution for you depends on what you need and what you have. If your disks are full of YouTube videos that you can easily download again (or stream), maybe you don't care too much. Precious family photos that can't be replaced? You need to care a lot. Personally, I like the ZFS approach and do it all in software, catching errors that RAID misses. RAID is also an option - 1:1 mirroring works great if you are much more concerned about data than about cost. There is no general advice in this area[2], the trick is to understand the various technologies, fully understand your own needs and budget, then plan accordingly. [1] All things being equal that is. A 3TB disk is probably not really the same as a 500G disk, just bigger. It's safe to assume that disk manufacturers pat attention to error rates etc and improve their products over time to make them more reliable. As to by how much - I don't know. [2] There is however a vendor's desire to maximize their profit while still leaving you with warm and fuzzies /sarcasm -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:01:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: When you use only LVM for this and nothing else, you have a high risk of losing everything if one disk fails. Why? Because LVM decides itself which extent it will put data on. Maybe a whole file is on one disk, maybe it's spread across two, because the software is designed so that you don't have to be concerned with that. The only thing that LVM does is expand your storage space as a single volume and make it easier to shuffle things around without having to backup/repartition/restore. An alternative is to create a new volume group on the new disk and mounts PVs at various points in your home directory. That way you get the extra space and much of the flexibility without the risk of a failure on a single drive taking out data on both. However, if you are concerned about data loss, you should be using RAID t a minimum, preferably with an error detecting filesystem. Personally, I like the ZFS approach and do it all in software, catching errors that RAID misses. The same is also possible with BTRFS, including built in RAID. RAID5 in btrfs is expermiental, but its RAID1 is like RAID5 in some ways, such as giving the capacity of n-1 disks and tolerating a single disk failure. -- Neil Bothwick PC DOS Error #04: Out of disk space. Delete Windows? (Y)es (H)ell yes! pgpTqh59wa03s.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28 April 2015 10:33:32 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 24.04.2015 13:56, J. Roeleveld wrote: dracut has to assemble /dev/md3 at first (this is the single PV in the VG VG01) and /dev/VG01/genroot then is the filesystem with the new gentoo-rootfs I only added stuff like rd.md=1 etc ... I think I got the assembling wrong. And maybe even the root= option. This is one of the reasons why I have given up on genkernel and dracut for initramfs creation and now simply build my own and have it integrated into the kernel: $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep INITRAMFS_SOURCE CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=/usr/src/initramfs/config If you're interested I will send you the required files. Yes, I am. I looked at generating it via dracut and get confused a bit. I try to generate it on another gentoo-host by editing a specific dracut.conf whic contains the md-related lines: kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=6a6226ed:87d41201:76269125:1a17f6a4 kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=2d6cd278:5f966c0f:ac5ed5c3:5a0bb8f5 kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=b492f31d:96bfca88:8cd97590:ad997d2c kernel_cmdline+= rd.md.uuid=e848b637:ca2bde73:9f92f3cc:128cdbad (to assemble the raid-arrays at boot) I run dracut -m lvm mdraid bash -c dracut.conf -f init2.img 3.18.9-gentoo and it ends with: *** Store current command line parameters *** Stored kernel commandline: rd.md.uuid=6a6226ed:87d41201:76269125:1a17f6a4 rd.md.uuid=2d6cd278:5f966c0f:ac5ed5c3:5a0bb8f5 rd.md.uuid=b492f31d:96bfca88:8cd97590:ad997d2c rd.md.uuid=e848b637:ca2bde73:9f92f3cc:128cdbad root=UUID=6eafd21c-c5f4-496d-bb90-ab4dc0a2c93c rootflags=rw,noatime,stripe=64,data=ordered rootfstype=ext4 *** Creating image file *** *** Creating image file done *** ... so the root= is looked up from the host I run the command on and not fitting the target machine ... etc etc hmm Does root= inside the grub-config override these lines? Should I use dracut --no-hostonly-cmdline ? Way too much variables in here ... especially when I can't just press Reset and try again. Stefan I sent my files on a seperate thread last weekend. Did you see those? -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? Generally I buy drives at the sweet spot in cost/capacity, so that is about 3TB last time I checked (for spinning disks). I ALWAYS use RAID or full backups of some kind. RAID isn't really a substitute for backups, but I use it as such for low-priority data such as mythtv recordings or re-generatable data. Right now I'm running on mirrored btrfs with a full backup to ext4 (since btrfs is living dangerously). I'm actually getting tight on space and debating dropping the full backups for lower-priority data, which would free up a 3TB drive to add to the btrfs array. Long-term I'd prefer to move to raid5 which is much more efficient, but I wouldn't recommend doing that on btrfs yet - it is very immature. raid5 on mdadm and lvm with ext4 is very mature, and is probably your most space-efficient option with some level of redundancy. With large arrays having raid6 isn't a bad idea these days - it takes a lot of time to recover a failure. However, if you have a single drive today there is no way to add only a single disk and get both more space and redundancy at the same time. If you want more space and only want to buy one drive, then you're stuck with just simple lvm and if a drive fails you're going to lose a lot of stuff. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 01:24:59AM +0100, Stroller wrote Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox. I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native HTML5 YouTube Playback I've picked up a few tricks that seem to work some of the time. This is with Seamonkey, but should work with standard Firefox... 1) Set up a separate profile for Youtube, and disable the Flash plugin only for that profile (never thought I'd say that). 2) If a video won't play, remove hd=1 at the end of the URL. That sometimes helps. 3) Warning... bleeding edge crash-prone. In about:config toggle media.mediasource.enabled to true. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
2015-04-28 5:39 GMT-03:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Howdy, I have a 3TB hard drive that I use for my /home partition. I'm going to be having to expand this before to long, lots of videos on there. The 4TB is a bit pricey and I would end up having to expand that to before to long. So, I got to thinking, why not buy another 3TB drive and just add that which would double my space. I use LVM by the way. I may try BTFS, (sp?). Either way, adding a drive shouldn't be to much of a problem. On one hand, adding a drive would double my space. It would also spread out my stuff in the event a drive failed. On the other hand, one more drive to have spinning that could fail too. These large drives makes me wonder sometimes. What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? Dale P. S. Filesystem Size Used AvailUse% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Home2-Home2 2.7T 1.8T 945G 66% /home I've already had my /home partition filled up, and it was just one of the partitions on the only hard drive inside this machine. Nowadays I have 3 more hard drives on this same machine, which makes 4 drives in total. None of them so big, though, the newest one is 1TB. Now, talking about redundancy, if you worry about many - or all - of your files, perhaps you should consider a RAID. Although expensive, it makes one's mind more relaxed ;-) . Basically, what I have seen is that many people worry about backing up files when at work, but completely forget about it on personal computers. Best regards, and good luck! Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28.04.2015 17:30, J. Roeleveld wrote: I sent my files on a seperate thread last weekend. Did you see those? no ... got to dig, thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself
On 29 April 2015 00:34:10 CEST, symack sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Joost,
We are running Grub2. Bellow is my grub.cfg for Xen
menuentry 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, with Xen hypervisor' --class gentoo
--class
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --class xen $menuentry_id_option
'xen-gnulinux-simple-43fa46d6-a602-4281-9493-66faec5c096f' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
fi
echo'Loading Xen xen ...'
if [ $grub_platform = pc -o $grub_platform = ]; then
xen_rm_opts=
else
xen_rm_opts=no-real-mode edd=off
fi
multiboot /xen.gz placeholder ${xen_rm_opts}
echo'Loading Linux 3.17.7-gentoo ...'
module /vmlinuz-3.17.7-gentoo placeholder root=/dev/sda3 ro
rootwait
This is starting to hurt
N.
Symack,
I never got grub2 to play nice with Xen.
My Xen servers all use grub1.
--
Joost
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:38 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On 29 April 2015 00:34:10 CEST, symack sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Joost,
We are running Grub2. Bellow is my grub.cfg for Xen
menuentry 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, with Xen hypervisor' --class gentoo
--class
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --class xen $menuentry_id_option
'xen-gnulinux-simple-43fa46d6-a602-4281-9493-66faec5c096f' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
66cdce01-cc3f-45ad-bea3-a64dff6db724
fi
echo'Loading Xen xen ...'
if [ $grub_platform = pc -o $grub_platform = ]; then
xen_rm_opts=
else
xen_rm_opts=no-real-mode edd=off
fi
multiboot /xen.gz placeholder ${xen_rm_opts}
echo'Loading Linux 3.17.7-gentoo ...'
module /vmlinuz-3.17.7-gentoo placeholder root=/dev/sda3 ro
rootwait
This is starting to hurt
N.
Symack,
I never got grub2 to play nice with Xen.
My Xen servers all use grub1.
--
Joost
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
I run like 20 xen machines on grub2 without problems.
Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
150427 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/04/2015 00:23, Michael Orlitzky wrote: I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's deceptively hard to automatically come up with a list of non-ridiculous suggestions before the user in question dies of old age : https://xkcd.com/1425/ . That expresses the extremes well enough, but one would hope that the Portage output problem lies between them. I'm aware of the scope of the problem, and I'm not asking Portage to infer what I might want or suggest solutions I didn't ask for. Besides, what I want is already unambiguously defined by world and the contents of /etc/portage/. I'd be much happier if portage took the information *it already has* and formatted its output a tad more parseable to human brains. Right now what it's doing is the equivalent of a core dump with ah, fuck it, I give up. Here, you figure this shit out. This expresses Gentoo users' difficulties all too well (smile). What we are asking is for the devs to accept there is a problem, have a proper look at it try to make Portage output more understandable. We are always grateful for their volunteer efforts. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
Howdy, I have a 3TB hard drive that I use for my /home partition. I'm going to be having to expand this before to long, lots of videos on there. The 4TB is a bit pricey and I would end up having to expand that to before to long. So, I got to thinking, why not buy another 3TB drive and just add that which would double my space. I use LVM by the way. I may try BTFS, (sp?). Either way, adding a drive shouldn't be to much of a problem. On one hand, adding a drive would double my space. It would also spread out my stuff in the event a drive failed. On the other hand, one more drive to have spinning that could fail too. These large drives makes me wonder sometimes. What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? Dale :-) :-) P. S. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Home2-Home22.7T 1.8T 945G 66% /home
[gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant cannot find crypto routines
I am unable to emerge net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1. I've encountered this on two systems now. The output included has been insensitively thrashed by thunderbird, so I've also pasted it along with some other info. https://gist.github.com/jfindlay/b3fc74bda7d4cfb5a2dc The first is the result from an emerge of wpa_supplicant, the subsequent two are the result of `ebuild $(equery which wpa_supplicant) merge`. Additional attempts at ebuild merging in this way always produce the output of the second ebuild merge. I've found these similar problems in a web search, but nothing seems to be directly related. http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2009-February/019392.html http://ask.csdn.net/questions/61862 http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/360043934234201692.html I'm wondering if I have an unusual USE flags situation that is causing this, but so far the problem seems to be (related to) a misconfiguration in the wpa_sup[plicant build system. I am going to continue to investigate, but would appreciate any knowledge or experience anyone else can provide. Thanks. Justin x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -shared ../utils/common.o ../utils/os_unix.o ../utils/wpa_debug.o ../utils/base64.o ../utils/wpabuf.o ../utils/eloop.o ../crypto/md5.o ../crypto/sha1-tlsprf.o ../crypto/aes-encblock.o ../crypto/aes-wrap.o ../crypto/aes-ctr.o ../crypto/aes-eax.o ../crypto/aes-omac1.o ../crypto/ms_funcs.o ../crypto/sha256.o ../crypto/random.o ../eap_common/eap_peap_common.o ../eap_common/eap_psk_common.o ../eap_common/eap_pax_common.o ../eap_common/eap_sake_common.o ../eap_common/eap_gpsk_common.o ../eap_common/chap.o ../crypto/tls_openssl.o ../crypto/crypto_openssl.o ../eap_peer/eap_tls.o ../eap_peer/eap_peap.o ../eap_peer/eap_ttls.o ../eap_peer/eap_md5.o ../eap_peer/eap_mschapv2.o ../eap_peer/mschapv2.o ../eap_peer/eap_otp.o ../eap_peer/eap_gtc.o ../eap_peer/eap_leap.o ../eap_peer/eap_psk.o ../eap_peer/eap_pax.o ../eap_peer/eap_sake.o ../eap_peer/eap_gpsk.o ../eap_peer/eap.o ../eap_common/eap_common.o ../eap_peer/eap_methods.o ../eap_peer/eap_tls_common.o -Wl,-soname -Wl,libeap.so.0 -o libeap.so.0.0.0 -lssl -lcrypto ../crypto/crypto_openssl.o: In function `aes_wrap': crypto_openssl.c:(.text+0xb30): multiple definition of `aes_wrap' ../crypto/aes-wrap.o:aes-wrap.c:(.text+0x0): first defined here ../crypto/crypto_openssl.o: In function `hmac_md5_vector': crypto_openssl.c:(.text+0x16e0): multiple definition of `hmac_md5_vector' ../crypto/md5.o:md5.c:(.text+0x0): first defined here ../crypto/crypto_openssl.o: In function `hmac_md5': crypto_openssl.c:(.text+0x1780): multiple definition of `hmac_md5' ../crypto/md5.o:md5.c:(.text+0x280): first defined here collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Makefile:148: recipe for target 'libeap.so.0.0.0' failed make: *** [libeap.so.0.0.0] Error 1 make: Leaving directory '/var/tmp/portage/net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1/work/wpa_supplicant-2.4/src/eap_peer' ... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -o ../src/eap_peer/eap_sim.o -O2 -march=native -mtune=native -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -I/var/tmp/portage/net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1/work/wpa_supplicant-2.4/src -I/var/tmp/portage/net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1/work/wpa_supplicant-2.4/src/utils -DCONFIG_BACKEND_FILE -DCONFIG_IEEE80211W -DCONFIG_IEEE80211R -DCONFIG_PEERKEY -DCONFIG_P2P -DCONFIG_WIFI_DISPLAY -DCONFIG_HS20 -DCONFIG_INTERWORKING -DCONFIG_DRIVER_WIRED -DCONFIG_DRIVER_NL80211 -DCONFIG_LIBNL20 -I/usr/include/libnl3 -DCONFIG_DRIVER_WEXT -DCONFIG_WIRELESS_EXTENSION -DEAP_TLS -DEAP_PEAP -DEAP_TTLS -DEAP_MD5 -DEAP_MSCHAPv2 -DEAP_GTC -DEAP_OTP -DEAP_SIM -DEAP_LEAP -DEAP_PSK -DEAP_AKA -DEAP_AKA_PRIME -DEAP_PAX -DCONFIG_WPS -DEAP_WSC -DCONFIG_WPS_NFC -DCONFIG_WPS_OOB -DCONFIG_WPS_ER -DCONFIG_WPS_UPNP -DIEEE8021X_EAPOL -DCONFIG_AP -DCONFIG_NO_RADIUS -DCONFIG_NO_ACCOUNTING -DCONFIG_NO_VLAN -DEAP_SERVER -DEAP_SERVER_IDENTITY -DNEED_AP_MLME -DEAP_SERVER_WSC -DCONFIG_NO_RADIUS -DPCSC_FUNCS -I/usr/include/PCSC -DPKCS12_FUNCS -DCONFIG_SMARTCARD -DEAP_TLS_OPENSSL -DCONFIG_SHA256 -DCONFIG_CTRL_IFACE -DCONFIG_CTRL_IFACE_UNIX -DCONFIG_CTRL_IFACE_DBUS -DDBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -DCONFIG_CTRL_IFACE_DBUS_NEW -DCONFIG_CTRL_IFACE_DBUS_INTRO -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib64/dbus-1.0/include -DCONFIG_DBUS -DCONFIG_SME -DCONFIG_DEBUG_FILE -DCONFIG_DELAYED_MIC_ERROR_REPORT -DCONFIG_GAS -DCONFIG_OFFCHANNEL ../src/eap_peer/eap_sim.c x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -c -o ../src/eap_peer/eap_aka.o -O2 -march=native -mtune=native -fmessage-length=0 -pipe -I/var/tmp/portage/net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1/work/wpa_supplicant-2.4/src -I/var/tmp/portage/net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.4-r1/work/wpa_supplicant-2.4/src/utils -DCONFIG_BACKEND_FILE -DCONFIG_IEEE80211W -DCONFIG_IEEE80211R -DCONFIG_PEERKEY -DCONFIG_P2P -DCONFIG_WIFI_DISPLAY -DCONFIG_HS20 -DCONFIG_INTERWORKING -DCONFIG_DRIVER_WIRED -DCONFIG_DRIVER_NL80211 -DCONFIG_LIBNL20 -I/usr/include/libnl3 -DCONFIG_DRIVER_WEXT
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28 April 2015 18:03:28 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.04.2015 17:42, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 28 April 2015 17:37:06 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.04.2015 17:30, J. Roeleveld wrote: I sent my files on a seperate thread last weekend. Did you see those? no ... got to dig, thanks Sent on 25th. Initramfs in subject. Happy hunting. :) found, but too tired today to give that a try ... thanks S Oki. Comments and questions about that please in the other thread. With sufficient demand, I will collate the information and post it on the wiki. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28.04.2015 16:53, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I now booted from a recent sysresccd ... and it didn't assemble/detect the LVM-PV ... *sigh* So I couldn't even mount the LV to chroot in there. The mdadm-RAID-devices were there and active. I didn't want to screw around with the LVM too much as there is data on there (yes, there are backups, but ...). pvscan always told me something like: No device found for PV hMMm0m-w4Ds-SU77-ATjF-iF1A-0qfq-V2IcXb ok, one step further: (no exact cut and paste because of java-based KVM access) pvscan --cache tells me: Found duplicate PV hMMm0m-w4Ds-SU77-ATjF-iF1A-0qfq-V2IcXb: using /dev/sdj1 not /dev/md3 -- md3 is the correct array to form the PV ... /dev/sdj1 is actually a partition that is an active *member* of the array /dev/md3 I tried to filter this partition by editing lvm.conf without success. Under suse I don't see /dev/sdj1 as pv: # pvdisplay /dev/sdj1 Failed to read physical volume /dev/sdj1 - Should I * pvremove /dev/sdj1 from sysresccd * in suse: remove sdj1 from array md3 ... overwrite header and re-add ? Oh my. !! BUT - I now found another nice fact: /dev/md2 (NO LVM) is unused since the initial installation. I even *documented* that in the project wiki years ago. 40 GB of unused space on a RAID1 of SAS hdds. Nice! Sounds like my new rootfs ;-) dracut plus these md-lines should work then. Stefan
[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:58:55 -0400 Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: Do you have the OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems firefox add-on installed (I think it comes with firefox). I have it but I still don't have H.264 checked on that page and I can't play some H.264 videos like this one https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us. If you have it, do you mind disabling it to check if that's where you're getting H.264 support from? I don't understand all the details -- not by a long stretch -- but AIUI, the Cisco thing makes it possible to use H.264 for real-time video chat, called WebRTC by the W3C and Firefox Hello by Mozilla. Judging by Alan's USE flags, it's not available for Fx 31.x. In later versions gmp-autoupdate controls it -- with that flag set, Firefox will silently download the thing and updates to it from Cisco. Mozilla won't bundle it because it's patent-encumbered. It comes from Cisco as a binary. There's also media-plugins/gmp-openh264, which I guess means the Gentoo devs hope to offer it built from source -- I haven't looked at the ebuilds. I have no problems playing youtube videos without it (both HTML5 and Flash) and I don't have gstreamer enabled on firefox. That makes me worried I gave Alan a bum steer.
Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 01:24:59AM +0100, Stroller wrote Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox. I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native HTML5 YouTube Playback I've picked up a few tricks that seem to work some of the time. This is with Seamonkey, but should work with standard Firefox... 1) Set up a separate profile for Youtube, and disable the Flash plugin only for that profile (never thought I'd say that). 2) If a video won't play, remove hd=1 at the end of the URL. That sometimes helps. 3) Warning... bleeding edge crash-prone. In about:config toggle media.mediasource.enabled to true. I think this is the default. Also, I have had several occasions where the profile somehow got corrupted and the video would not play, I had to create a new profile and then it worked. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:18:05 -0400 Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again. I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx. That's right.
[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 18:01:06 +0300 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: How could I get firefox to use hw0,3 or hw1,3 for HTML5 audio playback? There is no way. Mozilla products will only ever use card 0. I had to solve it on a laptop I once had, but I don't remember the details. I think no amount of tinkering with asound.conf will help, only switching the card numbers via kernel boot parameters.
[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive storage questions
On 04/28/2015 08:24 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:01:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Personally, I like the ZFS approach and do it all in software, catching errors that RAID misses. The same is also possible with BTRFS, I have the impression (without knowing what I'm talking about) that BTRFS was created to be just like ZFS, minus the software licensing problems. Is my impression right or wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
Daniel Frey wrote: On 04/27/2015 12:41 AM, Dale wrote: What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? I just went through this myself, and I found a NAS with four drives in it. I actually got it as a part of some special, I couldn't even buy the four 2TB disks included in it individually for the price of the whole NAS. That reminds me, I should set it up. :-) Dan I've noticed the external drives sometimes have better prices than internal ones at times. Makes me wonder. :/ I thought about taking the drives out and putting them in my rig and use the external case for something else. For some reason, I got a message back that other message didn't make it through so I resent it. I guess it did make it after all. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 15:59:17 -0500 »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 18:01:06 +0300 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: How could I get firefox to use hw0,3 or hw1,3 for HTML5 audio playback? There is no way. Mozilla products will only ever use card 0. I had to solve it on a laptop I once had, but I don't remember the details. I think no amount of tinkering with asound.conf will help, only switching the card numbers via kernel boot parameters. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ALSA#HTML5_does_not_play_in_the_Firefox_browser If that had been in the wiki when I had the problem, it would have saved me about a week of searching through blogs and bug reports. Hope it works for you!
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: The same is also possible with BTRFS, including built in RAID. RAID5 in btrfs is expermiental, but its RAID1 is like RAID5 in some ways, such as giving the capacity of n-1 disks and tolerating a single disk failure. btrfs raid5 is still fairly experimental (though now it supports recovery) and works more-or-less how you'd expect raid5 to work. Raid1 on btrfs gives you the capacity of n/2 and not n-1 disks, as you would expect. It does allow disks to be of different size, in which case it gives you up to n/2 capacity (and usually more than you'd get with traditional raid1 - it tries to fill the largest disks first so 3+1+1+1 TB will give you 3TB of storage, not 2TB as you'd get with mdadm raid1). Here is a btrfs raid1: df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdh23.2T 2.7T 477G 86% /data btrfs fi df /data Data, RAID1: total=2.93TiB, used=2.65TiB System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=472.00KiB Metadata, RAID1: total=16.00GiB, used=14.08GiB GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B btrfs fi sho /data Label: 'datafs' uuid: cd074207-9bc3-402d-bee8-6a8c77d56959 Total devices 5 FS bytes used 2.67TiB devid1 size 2.73TiB used 2.63TiB path /dev/sdh2 devid2 size 931.32GiB used 832.03GiB path /dev/sda2 devid3 size 931.32GiB used 834.00GiB path /dev/sde2 devid4 size 931.32GiB used 832.00GiB path /dev/sdd2 devid5 size 931.32GiB used 833.00GiB path /dev/sdb2 2.7TiB of data is stored on the array, which has nearly exhausted the space of 6.4TiB of drives (or 7TB). There are ~500GiB free, which would let me store ~250GiB of data. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:38:55 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: The same is also possible with BTRFS, including built in RAID. RAID5 in btrfs is expermiental, but its RAID1 is like RAID5 in some ways, such as giving the capacity of n-1 disks and tolerating a single disk failure. btrfs raid5 is still fairly experimental (though now it supports recovery) and works more-or-less how you'd expect raid5 to work. Raid1 on btrfs gives you the capacity of n/2 and not n-1 disks, You're right, I was clearly confused (an oxymoron?) when I wrote that. So RAID1 gives less capacity than RAID5 on BTRFS, but it is stable (in btrfs terms). -- Neil Bothwick This universe is sold by mass, not by volume. Some expansion may have occurred during shipment pgpllPHymDUg2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28.04.2015 18:43, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: 40 GB of unused space on a RAID1 of SAS hdds. Nice! Sounds like my new rootfs ;-) dracut plus these md-lines should work then. call me coward or defensive: I used genkernel ... and now the server is up and running with gentoo linux ;-) OK, way too much modules for now etc ... but booted. btw: I learned about the kernel-option panic=N ... maybe this would help in case the kernel does not detect the rootfs? thanks all, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:38:55 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: The same is also possible with BTRFS, including built in RAID. RAID5 in btrfs is expermiental, but its RAID1 is like RAID5 in some ways, such as giving the capacity of n-1 disks and tolerating a single disk failure. btrfs raid5 is still fairly experimental (though now it supports recovery) and works more-or-less how you'd expect raid5 to work. Raid1 on btrfs gives you the capacity of n/2 and not n-1 disks, You're right, I was clearly confused (an oxymoron?) when I wrote that. So RAID1 gives less capacity than RAID5 on BTRFS, but it is stable (in btrfs terms). Correct. For drives of identical size and not using compression, I'd expect space use on btrfs to be equivalent to the same raid level on mdadm+lvm+ext4. With mixed drives you will potentially get more space on btrfs, and compression will of course get you more space. As far as data security goes there is a tradeoff. Btrfs is still immature and I seem to have issues with it 1-2 times per year (but I've yet to have unrecoverable data loss). On the other hand, btrfs does do full data checksumming which means you're less likely to lose data due to issues with the physical storage than with mdadm - as with zfs it always checks the checksum and will recover from another disk if possible, and in the event of raid disparity it always knows which (if any) of the copies is right. I'm hopeful that at some point I'll be able to recommend it without reservation. Right now, that isn't entirely the case. I'm still patching the 3.18 kernel series so that it actually mounts my root partition when whatever is causing it to panic (probably also btrfs) does so (the patch is in the queue, but hasn't made it to 3.18 yet for some reason - I believe it has been in the other stable series for a release or two now). -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On 04/27/2015 12:41 AM, Dale wrote: What do you guys, gals too, think about this? Just add a drive or buy a larger drive and move things over? Or is this a six of one and half dozen of the other thing? I just went through this myself, and I found a NAS with four drives in it. I actually got it as a part of some special, I couldn't even buy the four 2TB disks included in it individually for the price of the whole NAS. That reminds me, I should set it up. :-) Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:31:23 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: btrfs raid5 is still fairly experimental (though now it supports recovery) and works more-or-less how you'd expect raid5 to work. Raid1 on btrfs gives you the capacity of n/2 and not n-1 disks, You're right, I was clearly confused (an oxymoron?) when I wrote that. So RAID1 gives less capacity than RAID5 on BTRFS, but it is stable (in btrfs terms). For drives of identical size and not using compression, I'd expect space use on btrfs to be equivalent to the same raid level on mdadm+lvm+ext4. That's only true for RAID1 when you have 2 drives, with more drives btrfs gives more space. 3 x 2TB drives give 2TB on MD RAID1 3 x 2TB drives give 3TB on btrfs RAID1 Although you will get slightly less usable space with btrfs because of the space used for metadata, but I'm not sure how significant that is. -- Neil Bothwick QOTD: The only easy way to tell a hamster from a gerbil is that the gerbil has more dark meat. pgpquCoMcld_F.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: If you're willing to wait an hour, it might be able to come up with a list of ways you could resolve a conflict, but basically all of them will be wrong, eg suggestion #1, uninstall everything. Really, this is a flippant response to a serious issue, No. It is how facts are. Actually, making suggestions is an NP-complete problem which means that if already, say, 20 possible choices have influence to the solution (and cannot be trivially cut), it would take hundreds of years to complete. If you come up with an algorithm which can do essentially better, you have probably solved the P=NP millenium problem and can expect an incredible award. You can be very lucky if you get *one* suggestion (which is what portage sometimes finds with high value of --backtrack). Checking whether the suggestion is reasonable is the user's task.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
I now booted from a recent sysresccd ... and it didn't assemble/detect the LVM-PV ... *sigh* So I couldn't even mount the LV to chroot in there. The mdadm-RAID-devices were there and active. I didn't want to screw around with the LVM too much as there is data on there (yes, there are backups, but ...). pvscan always told me something like: No device found for PV hMMm0m-w4Ds-SU77-ATjF-iF1A-0qfq-V2IcXb When I boot into Suse again, it shows up fine: # pvdisplay --- Physical volume --- PV Name /dev/md3 VG Name VG01 PV Size 4,09 TB / not usable 4,00 TB Allocatable yes PE Size (KByte) 4096 Total PE 1072103 Free PE 242919 Allocated PE 829184 PV UUID hMMm0m-w4Ds-SU77-ATjF-iF1A-0qfq-V2IcXb Do I hit some compatibility-issue? Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: remote installation, dual boot
On 28 April 2015 17:37:06 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.04.2015 17:30, J. Roeleveld wrote: I sent my files on a seperate thread last weekend. Did you see those? no ... got to dig, thanks Sent on 25th. Initramfs in subject. Happy hunting. :) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
