Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-05-04 Thread lee
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-05-04 Thread lee
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org writes: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one. Plain text can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue systems you booted or with software available on

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-05-04 Thread lee
Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de writes: Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? I can't even read them on a working system. What Canek and Rich already said is good, but I'll just add this: it's not like you can't run a classic syslog implementation alongside the systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Howdy, SNIP Dale P. S. Filesystem Size Used AvailUse% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Home2-Home2 2.7T 1.8T 945G 66% /home Well, I read replies a few times and I think it is best to just add a new drive. Heck, I've already

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 08:13:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: An alternative is to create a new volume group on the new disk and mounts PVs at various points in your home directory. That way you get the extra space and much of the flexibility without the risk of a failure on

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 May 2015 02:39:10 -0500, Dale wrote: I wasn't suggesting symlinks, just LVs mounted at appropriate points. It rather depends on the spread of Dale's data. If he just needs extra space for his videos, he could get a new drive and mount it at ~/videos. The bulk of the space is

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Mick
On Monday 04 May 2015 08:46:26 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2015 02:39:10 -0500, Dale wrote: I really do need to set up RAID at least for some stuff that I may not be able to get back. Some videos I have are no longer available. RAID is not a backup solution. Not only RAID 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2015 02:39:10 -0500, Dale wrote: I wasn't suggesting symlinks, just LVs mounted at appropriate points. It rather depends on the spread of Dale's data. If he just needs extra space for his videos, he could get a new drive and mount it at ~/videos. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 04 May 2015 08:46:26 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2015 02:39:10 -0500, Dale wrote: I really do need to set up RAID at least for some stuff that I may not be able to get back. Some videos I have are no longer available. RAID is not a backup solution. Not only

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Sunday, May 03, 2015 11:59:08 PM Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 02:57:46PM -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote Some packages do custom preprocessing and other weird things during the build process that cause problems with pump mode since it caches copies of the unmodified

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, May 04, 2015 5:29:34 AM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, May 03, 2015 11:59:08 PM Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 02:57:46PM -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote Some packages do custom preprocessing and other weird things during the build process that cause

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 May 2015 03:23:48 -0500, Dale wrote: What I wish, I had a second puter in a outbuilding that I could copy to over ethernet or something. May help in the event of a house fire etc. You have, it's called Amazon S3 :) It's a lot cheaper than a second computer, and a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2015 03:23:48 -0500, Dale wrote: What I wish, I had a second puter in a outbuilding that I could copy to over ethernet or something. May help in the event of a house fire etc. You have, it's called Amazon S3 :) It's a lot cheaper than a second

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Dale. On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 03:23:48AM -0500, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: What I wish, I had a second puter in a outbuilding that I could copy to over ethernet or something. May help in the event of a house fire etc. You have, it's called Amazon S3 :) It's a lot cheaper

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-05-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:14 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de writes: Personally, I'm probably going to uninstall syslog-ng, because journalctl is *such* a nice way to read logs, so why run something whose output I'll never read again? If you like it, nobody prevents

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 May 2015 05:40:25 -0500, Dale wrote: You only need to upload it once, so it doesn't really matter how long it takes. After that you do incremental backups. I use app-backup/duplicity which not only takes care of incremental backups and communicating with S3, but also encrypts

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 04 May 2015 03:23:48 -0500, Dale wrote: What I wish, I had a second puter in a outbuilding that I could copy to over ethernet or something. May help in the event of a house fire etc. You have, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

2015-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:57 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: I can't even read them on a working system. If that's true (which I highly doubt, more probably you don't know how to read

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 05:29:34AM -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote The error on the link that you posted looks like cause by pump mode, this one I'm not so sure. It looks like you're not using the cross compiler on the host as it would not generate 64 bit code. Did you add -m32 to your

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Greetings gents. I may have missed it, but i haven't seen this suggested yet: RAID+LVM. If you already have a 3TB drive, buy another (or two more) and build a RAID1 or 5 array on them. Then build your LVM on top of /dev/md0 (or whatever device your raid is). Another approach is ZFS with RAID-Z

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage metadata cache backend: sqlite or not?

2015-05-04 Thread Marc Joliet
Oh wow, I completely forgot about this open thread. In my defense, I had to move out two (or was it three?) days after I started the thread, and didn't have internet again until over a month later. Am Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:30:01 +0530 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com: [...] Having

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2015-05-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 02:23:55AM -0500, Dale wrote Dale wrote: Well, I read replies a few times and I think it is best to just add a new drive. Heck, I've already had a 3TB drive to fail. Anyway, I also need to look into some sort of backup system. I used to do this with DVDs but with

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, May 04, 2015 4:36:08 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, May 04, 2015 3:41:54 PM Walter Dnes wrote: Why is seamonkey the only program (so far for me) that needs -m32? Would it need -m64 if it was being cross-compiled on a 32-bit host system for 64-bit client? Is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 05:29:34AM -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote All you need to do is create scripts on the host with the exact same names and have them execute the compiler that you want with the options you want (I just have it execute the 64bit compiler with -m32). Then make sure that

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between normal distcc and distcc with pump?

2015-05-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, May 04, 2015 3:41:54 PM Walter Dnes wrote: Why is seamonkey the only program (so far for me) that needs -m32? Would it need -m64 if it was being cross-compiled on a 32-bit host system for 64-bit client? Is there a wiki that we can contribute this info to? It has to do with my