Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Does the EGL useflag break mesa-progs-8.2.0?

2015-07-23 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, walt wrote: Interesting. Maybe you could add some helpful ideas to this existing bug report: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555186 Added what I found upstream, should be enough to get it to work. Alpine? I used Alpine a few years ago, but I thought UW had

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 22 2015, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with /dev/sda4,

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers [SOLVED]

2015-07-23 Thread walt
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:49:50 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 23 Jul 2015 06:47:07 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/2015 05:49 πμ, walt wrote: Nope. Wrong. I just changed my resolv.conf back to the IP address of the router that ATT forced me to upgrade to and

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:07:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Why is a new installation using a 1980s partition scheme? Is that you, Lennart? But seriously, if it works, why junk it? If it works, why are you having problems with it? Here's my question to you... why should we junk software

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:13:34PM -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote New software could be: * more efficient * technically better (i.e. GPT is technically better than MBR) * have new features that you don't think you need but come in handy If your system works, why do you update it? Unless

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-07-23 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:23:30 -0400 schrieb Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 01:21:56PM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote This choice came about because I switched from fcron to systemd-cron, which runs its mail_on_failure script as user nobody, which caused my current

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Jc García
* Lennart Poetering sends an email begging the GNOME people to make systemd a hard-coded dependancy for GNOME and it happens. * Skype now requires Pulseaudio as a hard-coded dependancy Three pieces of software that were getting nowhere until they became hard-coded dependancies of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:06:38 + (UTC), James wrote: Why is a new installation using a 1980s partition scheme? Oh, I can answer this one. Cause lots of folks have tried the new stuff-age (grub-2, gpt, UUID_names etc etc) and have several borked installs. On my last btrfs (raid one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 23 July 2015 21:49:50 Mick wrote: Some top level DNS resolvers shared here (from a previous post in this list): http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110407_top_public_dns_resolvers_compared/ An interesting link - thanks. I've added OpenDNS to my name service. -- Rgds Peter

[gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Does the EGL useflag break mesa-progs-8.2.0?

2015-07-23 Thread walt
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Jeremi Piotrowski jeremi.piotrow...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:53:50PM -0700, walt wrote: Just try emerging mesa-progs-8.2.0 with the EGL useflag set. Works fine here, compiles cleanly. This really requires atleast an

[gentoo-user] Re: [gone O/T] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-23 Thread Mick
On Thursday 23 Jul 2015 00:09:09 Dale wrote: You seem to miss my point. I still have to type my passwords into a browser. If as you say, that is not secure, then what point is there to having a password or accessing my bank or other sites via the internet? I don't know if I am missing your

Re: [gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-23 Thread Jc García
2015-07-23 21:08 GMT-06:00 J.Rutkowski j...@pancakebungalow.com: Fedora's Ambassador[2] project and the concerted effort placed in organizing presence at events, publicly promoting projects, organzing contributor and developer projects (à la hackathons), etc. Is this something that users would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers [SOLVED]

2015-07-23 Thread J.Rutkowski
If you're familiar with wireshark (or another packet analyzer) I'd be interested in seeing where the delay actually is coming from. J. Rutkowski On Thu, Jul 23, 2015, at 06:27 PM, walt wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:49:50 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 23 Jul

[gentoo-user] The state of public relations?

2015-07-23 Thread J.Rutkowski
What is the current status of Gentoo public relations? A quick glance on Gentoo's Google+ and Twitter accounts show no posts in 3-4 months. Even the Project:Public Relations[1] page seems quite out of date. While we have the mailing lists, forum, Gentoo Monthly Newsletter, these are all geared

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-23 Thread Mick
On Thursday 23 Jul 2015 06:47:07 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/07/2015 05:49 πμ, walt wrote: Nope. Wrong. I just changed my resolv.conf back to the IP address of the router that ATT forced me to upgrade to and the delay is *gone*. The delay I was seeing was apparently caused by

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015, at 01:50 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:13:34PM -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote * ruby: Started because Matz could not find a language that was perfect for him. Now it powers loads of websites. New-and-improved stuff like Ruby gets in via the

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I get messages that both

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said my newly installed gentoo resides on those sub-partitions. Why is a new installation using a

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Does the EGL useflag break mesa-progs-8.2.0?

2015-07-23 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:53:50PM -0700, walt wrote: Just try emerging mesa-progs-8.2.0 with the EGL useflag set. Works fine here, compiles cleanly. This really requires atleast an 'emerge --info' to be able to tell more, but build logs may also be necessary. On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, wraeth

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:27:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said my newly installed gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said my newly installed gentoo resides on those

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:07:26PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:27:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition that is needed to access the

[gentoo-user] Re: gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread James
gottlieb at nyu.edu writes: Why is a new installation using a 1980s partition scheme? Oh, I can answer this one. Cause lots of folks have tried the new stuff-age (grub-2, gpt, UUID_names etc etc) and have several borked installs. On my last btrfs (raid one attempt) I still never figured out

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Walter Dnes wrote: Here's my question to you... why should we junk software that works, i.e. it does what we need? I want a real reason. The fact that it's old is not a justification. Neither is teh shiney. This thread seems to prove that it doesn't just work and

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread Paul Tobias
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0700 walt wrote: Very soon after being invited to open a gmail account, I discovered that google offers non-web-browser access to their free (as in beer) email servers. This puzzled me (still does) because it seems to violate google's basic business model,