Re: [gentoo-user] Question about initial/default ownership of /usr/portage

2015-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2015 10:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 20:48:06 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote: > >> Who is supposed to own /usr/portage? > > This was discussed in some detail two weeks ago. Search for the thread > entitled "portage directory ownerships?". > > There's an aspect of

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about initial/default ownership of /usr/portage

2015-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:40:42 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/10/2015 10:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 20:48:06 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote: > > > >> Who is supposed to own /usr/portage? > > > > This was discussed in some detail two weeks ago. Search for the thread > >

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:15:08AM +0100, Mick wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for >> using >> system-side rather than bundled in libraries: >> >> ... >> >> However, such libraries are not enabled by default

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 12:23:47 Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is >>> powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical >>> fault, because I placed the box on its side and the

[gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
Hi All, I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for using system-side rather than bundled in libraries: [ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-38.3.0::gentoo [38.2.1::gentoo] USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate jemalloc3 jit minimal -bindist -custom-cflags -custom- optimization

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2015 11:36, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical fault, > because I placed the box on its side and the drive did not click when booting > up. > > I ran

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 10:37:07 Marc Joliet wrote: > On Saturday 03 October 2015 10:15:08 Mick wrote: > >Hi All, > > > >I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for > >using system-side rather than bundled in libraries: > > > >[ebuild U ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical fault, > because I placed the box on its side and the drive did not click when booting > up. > > I ran smartctl

Re: [gentoo-user] System76 Hardware

2015-10-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: >> [1] http://www.pcidatabase.com/ > > > I didn't know that. It doesn't seem to have System76 in the database, > though. That's because System76 doesn't manufacture hardware components, but (at least most of) those found

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:57:47AM +0100, Mick wrote: > > Have you found that using local system flags causes rebuilds of FF more > often? > I seem to build or rebuild FF every couple of weeks, but I would not want to > have to rebuild it more often. > I have been using all the system-*

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 12:23:47 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical > > fault, because I placed the box on its side and the drive did not

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Marc Joliet
On Saturday 03 October 2015 10:15:08 Mick wrote: >Hi All, > >I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for using >system-side rather than bundled in libraries: > >[ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-38.3.0::gentoo [38.2.1::gentoo] USE="dbus >gmp-autoupdate jemalloc3 jit

[gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
Hi All, Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical fault, because I placed the box on its side and the drive did not click when booting up. I ran smartctl short/long/conveyance tests and no

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 06:26:37AM -0500, Dale wrote: > Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:15:08AM +0100, Mick wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for > >> using > >> system-side rather than bundled in libraries: >

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 12:18:19 Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:57:47AM +0100, Mick wrote: > > Have you found that using local system flags causes rebuilds of FF more > > often? I seem to build or rebuild FF every couple of weeks, but I would > > not want to have to rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about initial/default ownership of /usr/portage

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > I'm beginning to think portage is female and all attempts to > understand it are futile... You to huh? Every time I think I got something figured out, it throws a curve ball at me and hits me in the forehead. I don't like eating dirt. o_O Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:15:08AM +0100, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for using > system-side rather than bundled in libraries: > > ... > > However, such libraries are not enabled by default and FF will be downloading > 177,578

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Dale
Bryan Gardiner wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 06:26:37AM -0500, Dale wrote: >> Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:15:08AM +0100, Mick wrote: Hi All, I happened to notice that Firefox is having more and more USE flags for using system-side rather

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Mick wrote: > > Thank you all for your replies. I've enabled the system-* flags and firefox > built in the same time give or take a few seconds. I can't see a difference > yet, although it feels faster - clear psychological advantage!

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 10:55:42 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/10/2015 11:36, Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical > > fault, because I placed the box on its

Re: [gentoo-user] FF increasingly being bundled up

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 15:57:15 Rich Freeman wrote: > I wouldn't expect using system sqllite to have any negative impact on > other system packages using sqllite. It might or might not affect > firefox performance if its sqllite build options are different from > the system library. I believe

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie writes: > Hello, Lee. > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 08:45:10PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Neil Bothwick writes: > >> > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never as >> > welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [15-10-03 21:04]: > On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 19:44:03 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Mick [15-10-03 11:44]: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > > > powered up. Thereafter

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread lee
Neil Bothwick writes: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 20:45:10 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick writes: >> >> > Patches are always more welcome than suggestions. "Fix it!" is never >> > as welcome as "here's how". I think it was Canek who said "code >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] black screen on boot when udevevents are processed

2015-10-03 Thread lee
lee writes: > writes: > > [...] >>> However, I can see the BIOS and the boot manager menu, then during >>> booting, the screen goes black and the monitor says "no signal" >>> (probably when the nvidia module is loaded). So I logged in blindly >>> and

[gentoo-user] Gentoo speaking to Android

2015-10-03 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi, my setup is a recent Gentoo system, which is connected to the internet. This acts as an Wifi hotspot for my android tablet. I wiresharked some connections of this tablet to the internet and it was -- lets say -- "astonished", how much this little tablet has to tell people, which I dont know

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/03/2015 05:32 AM, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 12:23:47 Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is >>> powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical >>> fault, because I placed the box

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I have lost hard drives before and learned my lesson. My data is in > three different places, one being offline. > ++ All drives fail, and sooner or later all fingers fumble. They may or may not provide warning before

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [15-10-03 11:44]: > Hi All, > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical fault, > because I placed the box on its side and the drive did not click when booting

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive click of death?

2015-10-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Oct 2015 19:44:03 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Mick [15-10-03 11:44]: > > Hi All, > > > > Recently I noticed that an old drive is clicking 3 or 4 times when it is > > powered up. Thereafter is stays quiet. I think it is a mechanical > > fault, because

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Oct 03 2015, l...@yagibdah.de wrote: > What is b.g.o.? http://bugs.gentoo.org allan

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speaking to Android

2015-10-03 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 04/10/15 02:04, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > my setup is a recent Gentoo system, which is connected to the > internet. This acts as an Wifi hotspot for my android tablet. > > What is a secure, easy to setup and convenient method > to acchieve this? > (I only need some keywords ... no

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speaking to Android

2015-10-03 Thread Meino . Cramer
Bill Kenworthy [15-10-04 04:08]: > On 04/10/15 02:04, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > my setup is a recent Gentoo system, which is connected to the > > internet. This acts as an Wifi hotspot for my android tablet. > > > > > What is a secure, easy to setup and

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about initial/default ownership of /usr/portage

2015-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 20:48:06 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote: > Who is supposed to own /usr/portage? This was discussed in some detail two weeks ago. Search for the thread entitled "portage directory ownerships?". -- Neil Bothwick All mail what i send is thoughly proof-red, definately!