Re: [gentoo-user] Retrieving bounced list messages

[Floyd Anderson]

On Tue, 03 Jan 20:12:05 -0500
Philip Webb  wrote:

170104 Floyd Anderson wrote:

Is it possible — and when how — to retrieve bounced mailing list messages,
e.g. from  or this list) ?


You can recover everything from the Gentoo lists' archive :
 http://archives.gentoo.org/ .


Thanks for your response. I’ve already found [1] but it’s hard (even 
impossible) to figure out the bounced message(s) from there. Notice, the 
bouncing messages information from mailing list manager (mlmmj) looks 
like:



Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
message it means things are back to normal, and it′ merely for your
information.

Here is the list of the bounced messages:
- 174956
- 174958


I see no change to find any message on [1] by its message number. 
Although it were possible, my goal is to have the messages local stored 
and searchable while being offline. Also [2] doesn’t help here even 
though it offers a message download link — it’s not the raw email (with 
header fields).


Anyway, you push me in the right direction. After digging somewhat 
deeper I found the ability to send a message request to e.g. 
 (where N is the message number).


Now there is still one thing. How to get messages (better whole threads) 
for offline usage from a period before the list subscription when their 
message numbers is unknown?



[1] 
[2] 

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Best regards,
Floyd Anderson

[gentoo-user] A little help on receiving mail

[Harry Putnam]

I'm having an issue when retreiving mail with fetchmail.  It fails at
the handoff to local sendmail.

It happens with the default sendmail config sendmail.mc that is
shipped with sendmail when emerged.

It is a very abbreviated config that is desinged only for local mail I
think.

  divert(-1)
  divert(0)dnl
  include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
  VERSIONID(`$Id$')dnl
  OSTYPE(linux)dnl
  DOMAIN(generic)dnl
  FEATURE(`smrsh',`/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl
  FEATURE(`local_lmtp',`/usr/sbin/mail.local')dnl
  define(`confTRUSTED_USER', `smmsp')dnl
  MAILER(local)dnl
  MAILER(smtp)dnl

And since this is a sort of one off situation where I only want to
receive mail on this host temporarily while repairing another host
where mail is normally retrieved.

I don't care at all about sending out mail... only receiving.

I'm pretty sure this line:

  FEATURE(`local_lmtp',`/usr/sbin/mail.local')dnl

Is the culprit but wondered if anyone here can offer a bit of
sendmail.mc config that will allow this host to receive mail from my
pop servers thru fetchmail.

Before folks start with the `Egad what are you doing with sendmail
when "your favorite MTA" is so much better.

Really not helpful in this case... I just need the most minimal
correction to sendmail.mc that will allow mail to be retreived.

Sorry I don't have the actual output from fetchmail on hand ... until
I can get chrooted into that host currently being worked on with
systemrescueCD.

Any suggestions for lines to add to sendmail.mc?  And I assume
removing the quoted line is necessary as well.

Re: [gentoo-user] Retrieving bounced list messages

[Philip Webb]

170104 Floyd Anderson wrote:
> Is it possible — and when how — to retrieve bounced mailing list messages,
> e.g. from  or this list) ?

You can recover everything from the Gentoo lists' archive :
  http://archives.gentoo.org/ .

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[gentoo-user] Retrieving bounced list messages

[Floyd Anderson]

Hello list,

is it possible — and when how — to request/retrieve bounced mailing list 
messages (e.g. from  or this list)?


If there is an approach, can it be also applied to get certain 
interesting threads from dates _before_ one has been subscribed to that 
Gentoo list?


I wish to have a complete mailing list and be able to locally store some 
informative user experience from the past which may be meaningful to me 
in the future. Thanks and…


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Best regards,
Floyd Anderson

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

[Arve Barsnes]

On 3 January 2017 at 21:42, Daniel Frey  wrote:

> What I don't understand is I've been updating and depcleaning for more
> than a decade and haven't seen that message before. Am I just lucky?
>

Yes.

I've seen this many times.

Arve

[gentoo-user] depclean missing packages

[Daniel Frey]

So, for the first time I've seen the following message after an `emerge
-uDN world`:


# emerge -cp

 * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
 * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
 * be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
 * `emerge --noreplace `.  Packages that are listed in
 * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
 * depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
 *
 * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
 * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
 * consequence of this, it often becomes necessary to run
 * `emerge --update --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!
 * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to
 * the following required packages not being installed:
 *
 *   ~dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.6.1 pulled in by:
 * dev-qt/linguist-tools-5.6.1
 *
 *   ~dev-qt/qtxml-5.6.1 pulled in by:
 * dev-qt/linguist-tools-5.6.1
 *
 *   ~dev-qt/qtcore-5.6.1 pulled in by:
 * dev-qt/linguist-tools-5.6.1
 *
 * Have you forgotten to do a complete update prior to depclean? The
 * most comprehensive command for this purpose is as follows:
 *
 *   emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world
 *
 * Note that the --with-bdeps=y option is not required in many
 * situations. Refer to the emerge manual page (run `man emerge`)
 * for more information about --with-bdeps.
 *
 * Also, note that it may be necessary to manually uninstall
 * packages that no longer exist in the portage tree, since it may
 * not be possible to satisfy their dependencies.

What I don't understand is why these packages were not installed in the
first place. Should this be reported as a bug? I've ran an update with
--with-bdeps as suggested and it's telling me 20 packages are missing
from my system! (And is currently installing them.)

What I don't understand is I've been updating and depcleaning for more
than a decade and haven't seen that message before. Am I just lucky?

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] conky failed to build: Missing unknown library/application/whatever

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Am 3. Januar 2017 10:23:05 MEZ schrieb lee :
>Daniel Pielmeier  writes:
>
>> Afaik nvidia-settings is on it's way out of portage thus considered
>> deprecated.
>
>What's is replacing it?

I mentioned it my the previous mail but I should have been more clear.

nvidia-drivers with USE="tools" should provide nvidia-settings [1] and 
USE="static-libs" should provide XNVCtrl.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562910

-- 
Regards Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] conky failed to build: Missing unknown library/application/whatever

[lee]

Daniel Pielmeier  writes:

> Afaik nvidia-settings is on it's way out of portage thus considered
> deprecated.

What's is replacing it?

Re: [gentoo-user] kvm/qemu no-multilib

[lee]

Alec Ten Harmsel  writes:

> El 02/01/2017 a las 12:02 p. m., lee escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is it possible to install kvm/qemu (and virsh) on a no-multilib profile?
>
> Yes

Cool, thanks :)

>> I'm hitting the disadvantages of containers too much and would like to
>> migrate to VMs ...
>>
>
> Which disadvantages? Just curious...

They can be a bit tricky to start in that not all services come up after
rebooting the system.  With one of them, /dev/null gets sometimes
removed for unknown reasons.  When you want to do something with
iptables, you can't.

Other than that, they work great and have many advantages.