Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:08:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> That's just sensible, although a new combination is more likely to >>> fail because of the kernel than the init thingy. >>> >> The kernel loaded, it was late in the process, about or at the time the >> switch root is

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:11:18 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I got stuck on: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1 > > i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: error: unrecognized command line option > ‘-std=c++14’ ...failed updating 1 target... > * ERROR: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase): > *

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:08:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > > That's just sensible, although a new combination is more likely to > > fail because of the kernel than the init thingy. > > > > The kernel loaded, it was late in the process, about or at the time the > switch root is supposed to happen, that

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

Thelma On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). [snip] I got stuck on: dev-libs/boost-1.62.0-r1 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-std=c++14’ ...failed updating 1 target... *

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:45:12 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> init thingies have changed a lot since your Mandr{ake,iva} >>> experiences. The way the kernel handles them is very different and >>> the tools used to build them have changed greatly. Mandrake used >>> their on init

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:45:12 -0600, Dale wrote: > > init thingies have changed a lot since your Mandr{ake,iva} > > experiences. The way the kernel handles them is very different and > > the tools used to build them have changed greatly. Mandrake used > > their on init thingy builder, as did most

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've > > learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them > > occasionally (when I have some spare

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:16:19 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Now that I'm basically forced to have a init thingy, that is a >> additional reason not to reboot. In the past, another distro, the init >> thingy would break and I couldn't boot. I despise having to have a init >>

[gentoo-user] Re: How often do you reboot?

On 2017-01-30, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've >> learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them >> occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

On 30/01/2017 23:46, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've > learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them > occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle) > just to make they still can. > > I've settled on roughly

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:16:19 -0600, Dale wrote: > Now that I'm basically forced to have a init thingy, that is a > additional reason not to reboot. In the past, another distro, the init > thingy would break and I couldn't boot. I despise having to have a init > thingy. If I ever replace the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 30/01/2017 23:40, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > On 01/30/2017 02:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> grub:0 doesn't have a multislot USE flag, only grub:0 does > > Thank Alan, I just blocked off grub all together. > So the system is

Re: [gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

Grant Edwards wrote: > I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've > learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them > occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle) > just to make they still can. > > I've settled on roughly once a month or so. >

[gentoo-user] How often do you reboot?

I've got a couple Gentoo machines that normally run 24/7. I've learned over the years that it's a good idea to reboot them occasionally (when I have some spare time and I know they're idle) just to make they still can. I've settled on roughly once a month or so. What seems to happen if I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 01/30/2017 02:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I haven't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 01/30/2017 12:57 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 30/01/2017 22:57, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

Put the following in package.mask on systems not using grub2 to prevent it from installing: sys-boot/grub:2 On 01/30/2017 09:57 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 01/30/2017 01:41 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). >>> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On 30/01/2017 22:32, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). >> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems. >> > [snip] > > > OK, I have just few

[gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 2017-01-30, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). >> I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems. >> > [snip] > > OK, I

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On 01/29/2017 01:56 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). > I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems. > [snip] OK, I have just few blockers. What to do with them? I have grup-0.97-r16 installed

[gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Surface Pro 3?

Subject says it all... I acquired (on the cheap) a used Surface Pro 3 with the keyboard cover off of a relative who wasn't using it (they said the screen was too small.) I am considering putting Gentoo (or attempting to) and am wondering if anyone has had success. It looks like newer kernels

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI is teh SNAFU!

On Monday 30 Jan 2017 10:56:09 Alan Grimes wrote: > I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update. > > I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The > BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location. What made you reach this conclusion? > The machine stops

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

On Monday 30 Jan 2017 06:10:47 Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote: > > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: > >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS > >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI is teh SNAFU!

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update. > > I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The > BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location. > > The machine stops stone cold dead

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 01/30/2017 09:31 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote: >> On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> But I found binutils-config

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:31:09 -0500, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote: > > > > On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: > >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, > >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > >> > >>>

[gentoo-user] UEFI is teh SNAFU!

I had to reboot my system again due to video driver update. I had set up a new build of my kernel in a UEFI partition. The BIOS/firmware seemed to be happy with the location. The machine stops stone cold dead the instant the firmware tries to transfer control to the new kernel. I found a switch

[gentoo-user] Re: upgrading 1-year old system

On 2017-01-29, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/01/2017 22:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). [...] >> What is my best option, re-install from scratch, upgrade in stages etc. > 1 year 3 months isn't usually

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 30/01/2017 17:15, Corbin Bird wrote: > > On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [snip] >> >> >>> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so >>> I

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 30/01/2017 17:14, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:56:29 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >> >>> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 01/30/2017 08:56 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > [snip] > > >> But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so >> I will see what happens. >> So, after removing the old

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:56:29 -0500, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > > [snip] > > > > But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so > > I will see what happens. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 30/01/2017 16:55, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [snip] > But I found binutils-config and just switched from 2.25-r1 to 2.27, so > I will see what happens. > So, after removing the old versions of binutils, the preserved-rebuild > problem

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:32:46 -0500, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 30/01/2017 13:57, John Covici wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500, > > Tuomo Hartikainen wrote: > >> > >> Hi John, > >> > >> On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote: > >>> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

On 30/01/2017 01:06, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 22:10:59 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 19:17:47 +, Mick wrote: Are you running fstrim once in a while like it's recommended? Apparently using 'discard' as an option when mounting is no longer recommended. On

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On 30/01/2017 13:57, John Covici wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500, > Tuomo Hartikainen wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote: >>> Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have >>> no idea how to fix. >>> >>> The first one is like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:13:28 +, Stroller wrote: > One of my hacks is to compile a list of outdated packages in a text > file, then apply commands like `for package in $(cat list.txt) ; do > emerge -1 $package ; done`. It's dirty and kludgy, but if you have 100 > files to update and 80 of them

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

> On 29 Jan 2017, at 20:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > I haven't updated my system for over a year (1year and 3-months). > I was trying to upgrade my firefox-bin and I'm already running into problems. > > What is my best option, re-install from scratch, upgrade in stages etc. > With

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:37:01 -0500, Tuomo Hartikainen wrote: > > Hi John, > > On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote: > > Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have > > no idea how to fix. > > > > The first one is like this: > > >>> package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: >> >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition (disk0s3). > > Yes, Apple's firmware reads the

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

On Monday 30 Jan 2017 10:02:20 I wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 09:59:53 Daniel Frey wrote: > > As far as monitoring, some vendors have tools for that I believe. They > > usually do run SMART. > > I've found an off-line testing suite here [1], which I'll have a play > with. Oops! [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:22:14 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world. > > Only bad thing is, KDE, if you have it installed, is in @system > > because of dependencies, last I checked anyway. That will make > > @system a lot of fun itself. > > It

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 15:32:22 Dale wrote: > Might I also add, the -t option can reveal what is causing what > sometimes. It's never helped me though: whatever can't be installed breaks the tree building so I get no indentation. > Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world. > Only

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with gdbus-codegen

On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 09:59:53 Daniel Frey wrote: > As far as monitoring, some vendors have tools for that I believe. They > usually do run SMART. I've found an off-line testing suite here [1], which I'll have a play with. > Are you running fstrim once in a while like it's recommended?

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading 1-year old system

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:32:22 PM CET Dale wrote: > Might I also add, the -t option can reveal what is causing what > sometimes. Also, I'd start with @system first, then work on @world. > Only bad thing is, KDE, if you have it installed, is in @system because > of dependencies, last I

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of preserved-rebuild problems -- how to fix

Hi John, On 2017-01-29 05:11, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I am having a couple of preserved rebuild problems which I have > no idea how to fix. > > The first one is like this: > >>> package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27 > * - /usr/lib64/libbfd-2.25.1.so > * used by >