Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-03 Thread Dale
tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications > on base of the regular updates? > Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be > recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... > What else can fail? What may be the worst

[gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-03 Thread tuxic
Hi, what could fail, when doing the change to PIE-enabled applications on base of the regular updates? Compilation may fail, if libs are included and not flagged as to be recompiled, which are of the "old standard"... What else can fail? What may be the worst scenario? Is there a way to do a

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:18:30AM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote > Some packages already failed to build but I don't know yet which. But > usually `emerge --keep-going` prints a list of the failed packages at > the end. If you've got it set up, try... ll -rt /var/log/portage/elog/ -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 19:08:25 -0600 schrieb Dale : > I hope that makes sense because it can be rather complicated if it > doesn't click as to what I'm describing.  It does. > Based on all the threads, I'm sticking with the old profile until next > week or maybe two weeks. 

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Dale
Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:55:59 -0600 > schrieb Dale : > >> I hope I understood what you meant with all this.  I disturbed quite a >> few electrons and stuff with this.  lol > I think you understood what I meant even if I didn't think about doing > some other

[gentoo-user] palemoon and gcc [Was: Emerge does want to tell me...what?]

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 22:45, Simon Thelen wrote: > It might be that palemoon has issues with certain > optimizations/instruction sets that are aggravated by using newer gcc > versions (which could turn on optimizations by default etc). Yes, this is my provisional explanation too. > I tried checking

[gentoo-user] Re: New profile & gcc update

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/03/17 10:29, Daniel Frey wrote: Well, I moved to the new profile and started emerging gcc on about eight computers or so. I use distcc to speed up the compile process on the slower machines, so I need to keep the versions in sync. I forgot to prefix `emerge -1 gcc` with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-12-03 at 12:06, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-03 18:58, Simon Thelen wrote: > > > Palemoon builds fine with gcc 6.4.0 (just not with gcc 7.2.0), if the > > ebuild you're using requires an older gcc it's either wrong or doing > > something weird. > It builds, but the result binary

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I in trouble now?

2017-12-03 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 19:56:19 CET schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > Hi, > > From the news I did everything to switch to the 17th profile EXCEPT > emerge -e @world. > > One application which was recompiled was gcc-7.20. > > From my undertsand/point of view gcc now has to have the PIE-feature >

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 18:58, Simon Thelen wrote: > Palemoon builds fine with gcc 6.4.0 (just not with gcc 7.2.0), if the > ebuild you're using requires an older gcc it's either wrong or doing > something weird. It builds, but the result binary crashes every 10 minutes. Have you tried it? The ebuild

[gentoo-user] Am I in trouble now?

2017-12-03 Thread tuxic
Hi, >From the news I did everything to switch to the 17th profile EXCEPT emerge -e @world. One application which was recompiled was gcc-7.20. >From my undertsand/point of view gcc now has to have the PIE-feature gcc-bin/7.2.0>l total 6676 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2017-12-02 16:36 c++ ->

Re: [gentoo-user] How to check for PIE-code ?

2017-12-03 Thread ckard
You can use app-admin/checksec to see if different security features are enabled or not. On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to check, whether a compilated binary is using > the position-independant-code feature or is still build according > to old

[gentoo-user] New profile & gcc update

2017-12-03 Thread Daniel Frey
Well, I moved to the new profile and started emerging gcc on about eight computers or so. I use distcc to speed up the compile process on the slower machines, so I need to keep the versions in sync. I forgot to prefix `emerge -1 gcc` with `FEATURES="-distcc"` and am wondering if the

[gentoo-user] How to check for PIE-code ?

2017-12-03 Thread tuxic
Hi, is there any way to check, whether a compilated binary is using the position-independant-code feature or is still build according to old standards? Cheers Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-12-03 at 09:52, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-03 06:46, Heiko Baums wrote: > > > 1. It can't find >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0 but only older gcc versions. > > > > 2. You have installed a package that depend on sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3 > > or sys-devel/gcc-4.9.4. > > > > I already explained

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 06:46, Heiko Baums wrote: > 1. It can't find >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0 but only older gcc versions. > > 2. You have installed a package that depend on sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3 > or sys-devel/gcc-4.9.4. > > I already explained what you can do in the first case. In the second > case I

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:39:31 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > But it's actually "--keep-going y". y is the default, so "--keep-going" and "--keep-going y" do the same thing. -- Neil Bothwick Drive not ready: (R)etry (G)o to Impulse (C)all Engineering pgpAV8PgaVH97.pgp Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 3 December 2017 14:39:31 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:16:26 +0100 > > schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > > what is about emerge -e @world --keep-going > > instead? > > That would do something like a --resume --skipfirst automatically with > the difference that it first

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-03 Thread Mick
On 03-12-2017 ,10:57:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: > > I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per > > '2017-11-30-new-17- > > profiles' news item: > > >>> Compiling source in /data/tmp_var/portage/sys-boot/grub-0.97-r16/work/ > >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 15:16:26 +0100 schrieb tu...@posteo.de: > what is about emerge -e @world --keep-going > instead? That would do something like a --resume --skipfirst automatically with the difference that it first recalculates the dependency tree in case another package would depend on the

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 09:09:37 -0500 schrieb "Spackman, Chris" : > emerge --resume --skipfirst `emerge --resume --skipfirst` is necessary if you don't use --keep-going y, a package fails to build and you want to manually resume the actual emerge. Not using --skipfirst wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:55:59 -0600 schrieb Dale : > I hope I understood what you meant with all this.  I disturbed quite a > few electrons and stuff with this.  lol I think you understood what I meant even if I didn't think about doing some other stuff with emerge in between

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread tuxic
On 12/03 09:09, Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2017/12/03 at 06:55am, Dale wrote: > > > I think I get what you are saying.  If for example you start a > > emerge -e world, a emerge -uDN world or something and then stop it > > before it finishes, running emerge --resume should pick up where you > >

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Spackman, Chris
On 2017/12/03 at 06:55am, Dale wrote: > I think I get what you are saying.  If for example you start a > emerge -e world, a emerge -uDN world or something and then stop it > before it finishes, running emerge --resume should pick up where you > left off. Another helpful option, which I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Dale
Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sun, 03 Dec 2017 09:53:21 + > schrieb Peter Humphrey : > >> On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: >> >>> Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, >>> which is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world`

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 03 Dec 2017 09:53:21 + schrieb Peter Humphrey : > On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > > > Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, > > which is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world` than in case of > >

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 2 December 2017 12:30:57 GMT Mick wrote: > I'm getting this error after I changed my profile as per > '2017-11-30-new-17- > profiles' news item: > >>> Compiling source in /data/tmp_var/portage/sys-boot/grub-0.97-r16/work/ [...] > However, sys-boot/grub-0.97-r17 installed fine once

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 04:45:59 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Suppose one would do an emerge @world...and then BOOOM! a powerfailyre > would stop the whole thing. Further suppose the filesystem, the > hardware and anything has survived luckily -- only emerge @world needs > to be restarted. > And

Re: [gentoo-user] New profile 17: How urgent is the rebuild of world technically?

2017-12-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:15:25 GMT Heiko Baums wrote: > Like I said before. emerge always calculates the dependency tree, which > is a lot faster in case of `emerge -e @world` than in case of `emerge > -uDN @world`. And then it knows which packages have already been > installed and which are

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Adam Carter
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 3:43 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I started emerge -e @world > > and it stops with this message: > > The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: > (see "package.unmask" in the portage(5) man page for more details) > # required by @selected > # required

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS for both AMD64 and Intel?

2017-12-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:23:10PM -0800, Manuel McLure wrote > Here's the situation. I have a system that's been running for many years > with an Athlon 5050e processor. The system is built with > > CFLAGS="-march=k8-sse3 -O2 -pipe -msse3" > CPU_FLAGS_X86="3dnow 3dnowext mmx mmxext sse sse2