Re: [gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
> On 2018-11-03, at 00:43, Alan Grimes wrote: > > I have not seen KDE add a single feature or even fix a single bug (while > letting new bugs pile up) in FIVE YEARS. They version bump their entire > suite for no reason every five minutes but nothing gets even slightly > better. KDE has'nt been worth anything since the QT4 cataclysm, 3.59 was > pretty darn good. =\ Kdevelop3 only needed to be restarted once a > week... You could binge program with it for an ENTIRE WEEK without > restarting it... It had some wonderful class inheratance heirarchy > graphing tools so that you could learn codebases nice and quick and go > in and refactor them. There are a lot of new features in KDE but you may not be aware of them or you do not care for them. But a lot of KDE 4's changes was to upgrade to KDE 4 without inheriting the code issues of Qt 3/KDE 3.5 code (KF5 continues this with Qt 5). Also with KF5 they are splitting up the code base so that it can be used in a more modular form. Prior to KF5, using KDE code in other projects was almost impossible without being dependent on the very large kdelibs library (which is an issue on other platforms as well where loading that many libraries at launch time takes a while). My main criticism of KDE 4 and onward is the introduction of Akonadi. I've never had much success with it especially with KMail. > How did they make it so that 40% of ordinary zip files I try to open > with konqueror fail CRC (but work perfectly from the command line) > > It used to have nice large icon mode with previews, and nice small-icons > in normal mode... Broken too for many months now. =\ You have to give up on Konqueror as a file manager. It just doesn't get much support for that anymore. I've abandoned Konqueror completely as it's far behind as a web browser compared to Firefox/Chrome. Dolphinpart which runs within Konqueror to make it a file manager is almost the same as Dolphin. Although there are things that annoy me in Dolphin, it gets more maintenance and a bug report is much more likely to be addressed. > > Akregator crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab... It went > about three years without saving anything to disk when it's supposed to > buffer my RSS feeds. Now it's just crashtastic in the extreme... Even Google completely dropped their RSS reader. I have my doubts that this app gets a lot of maintenance. > > Microsoft must be paying Good Money (tm) to the FS developers to keep > breaking stuff at this rate. =| Trouble is afoot! Given the track record of late (like owning GitHub) I don't think so. -- Andrew Udvare
[gentoo-user] What's with KDE?
I have not seen KDE add a single feature or even fix a single bug (while letting new bugs pile up) in FIVE YEARS. They version bump their entire suite for no reason every five minutes but nothing gets even slightly better. KDE has'nt been worth anything since the QT4 cataclysm, 3.59 was pretty darn good. =\ Kdevelop3 only needed to be restarted once a week... You could binge program with it for an ENTIRE WEEK without restarting it... It had some wonderful class inheratance heirarchy graphing tools so that you could learn codebases nice and quick and go in and refactor them. Unfortunately I don't think even Don Corleone could get me a programming job. =( How did they make it so that 40% of ordinary zip files I try to open with konqueror fail CRC (but work perfectly from the command line) It used to have nice large icon mode with previews, and nice small-icons in normal mode... Broken too for many months now. =\ Akregator crashes all the time if I simply try to close a tab... It went about three years without saving anything to disk when it's supposed to buffer my RSS feeds. Now it's just crashtastic in the extreme... FVWM seems to need an update for the new X11, icons still broken, can't fullscreen a window properly anymore. -- Used to work great far like FIFTEEN FRIGGIN YEARS WITHOUT USER INTERVENTION! Microsoft must be paying Good Money (tm) to the FS developers to keep breaking stuff at this rate. =| -- Please report bounces from this address to a...@numentics.com Powers are not rights.
Re: [gentoo-user] chrony-3.3 hangs at boot
On Friday, 2 November 2018 16:59:32 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 2 November 2018 16:38:14 GMT Stroller wrote: > > > On 3 Sep 2018, at 19:10, Holger Hoffstätte > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:48:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > > >> I just noticed today chronyd hangs during boot for a minute and a half. > > >> The logs do not reveal anything amiss. I suspect it waits for a > > >> network > > >> connection, which is not yet up when chronyd launches. > > >> … > > > > > > Yes and yes; countless people have been hit by this, I was probably the > > > first to notice/debug it. It happens due to changes in Linux' random > > > number generator, which is now slowly making it into older kernels as > > > well. > > > > Perhaps I'm experiencing this because I'm using a Linode VM - it seems to > > hang indefinitely, not just for 90 seconds - but it looks a bit like the > > devs have passed the report upstream and left the affected versions in the > > tree to bite stable users. > > It just happens on one machine here, but I shorten the wait by rattling keys > to supply entropy. I'm on chrony-3.3 and gentoo kernel-4.14.78. I have not noticed this problem for a while now. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] chrony-3.3 hangs at boot
On Friday, 2 November 2018 16:38:14 GMT Stroller wrote: > > On 3 Sep 2018, at 19:10, Holger Hoffstätte > > wrote:> > > On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:48:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> I just noticed today chronyd hangs during boot for a minute and a half. > >> The logs do not reveal anything amiss. I suspect it waits for a network > >> connection, which is not yet up when chronyd launches. > >> … > > > > Yes and yes; countless people have been hit by this, I was probably the > > first to notice/debug it. It happens due to changes in Linux' random > > number generator, which is now slowly making it into older kernels as > > well. > Perhaps I'm experiencing this because I'm using a Linode VM - it seems to > hang indefinitely, not just for 90 seconds - but it looks a bit like the > devs have passed the report upstream and left the affected versions in the > tree to bite stable users. It just happens on one machine here, but I shorten the wait by rattling keys to supply entropy. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] chrony-3.3 hangs at boot
> On 3 Sep 2018, at 19:10, Holger Hoffstätte > wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:48:53 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> I just noticed today chronyd hangs during boot for a minute and a half. The >> logs do not reveal anything amiss. I suspect it waits for a network >> connection, which is not yet up when chronyd launches. >> … > > Yes and yes; countless people have been hit by this, I was probably the first > to notice/debug it. It happens due to changes in Linux' random number > generator, which is now slowly making it into older kernels as well. Perhaps I'm experiencing this because I'm using a Linode VM - it seems to hang indefinitely, not just for 90 seconds - but it looks a bit like the devs have passed the report upstream and left the affected versions in the tree to bite stable users. Stroller.
