Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[John Covici]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:19:45 -0400,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:53:10 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> 
> > >  Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?
> > > 
> > > I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add
> > > @kernels to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually
> > > edited world_sets and added @kernels then this works as expected.   
> > 
> > Do I just add a line saying @kernels to that file or is there some
> > other syntax?
> 
> Just add @kernels on a line. The format of world_sets is like world,
> except it contains set names rather than package names.

Thanks much.  Now, what about depclean deleting packages where I have
the name in my world file, but no version numbers or anything, it
seems to want to delete what it maybe thinks are older versions even
if the "older" version is the only one installed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:53:10 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> >  Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?
> > 
> > I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add
> > @kernels to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually
> > edited world_sets and added @kernels then this works as expected.   
> 
> Do I just add a line saying @kernels to that file or is there some
> other syntax?

Just add @kernels on a line. The format of world_sets is like world,
except it contains set names rather than package names.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Manuel McLure]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:54 PM John Covici  wrote:

> Do I just add a line saying @kernels to that file or is there some
> other syntax?
>

I just added a line with "@kernels" to that file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[John Covici]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:46:34 -0400,
Manuel McLure wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> [2  ]
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:05 AM Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> 
>  Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?
> 
> I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add @kernels 
> to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually edited world_sets and 
> added @kernels then this works as expected. 

Do I just add a line saying @kernels to that file or is there some
other syntax?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[John Covici]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:05:03 -0400,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:49:26 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> 
> > > > > Put this in /etc/portage/sets.conf
> > > > > 
> > > > > [kernels]
> > > > > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
> > > > > world-candidate = False
> > > > > files = /usr/src
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then "emerge -n @kernels"
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now depclean won't try to remove any kernels, or any other package
> > > > > that installs files to /usr/src.
> > > > Well, this didn't seem to work, when I tried to emerge -n @kernels
> > > > it said nothing to emerge, after the calculating, etc.   
> > > 
> > > It won't emerge anything, that command adds the kernels set to
> > > world_sets. 
> > > > and it certainly did not work.  
> > > 
> > > As in depclean still wants to remove kernels? Or as in nothing
> > > /appeared/ to happen?  
> > 
> > As in depclean still wants to remove kernels.
> 
> Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?

That file is empty.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 14:01:49 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add
> > @kernels to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually edited
> > world_sets and added @kernels then this works as expected. 

> Depending on the options used in make.conf for emerge, you may have to
> use the --select y option to force it to be added.  I have -1 set as a
> default in make.conf and when I want something added to the world file,
> I have to use that option to force it.  I did that because I was tired
> of things being added to world that I didn't want there. 

This is the world_sets file. I had asumed that portage would behave in
the same way with sets as atoms, -n is the same as "--select y", but
apparently not.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Dale]

Manuel McLure wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:05 AM Neil Bothwick  > wrote:
>
> Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?
>
>
> I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add
> @kernels to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually edited
> world_sets and added @kernels then this works as expected. 
> -- 
> Manuel A. McLure WW1FA mailto:man...@mclure.org>>
> 
> ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
> no man may kill a cat.                       -- H.P. Lovecraft


Depending on the options used in make.conf for emerge, you may have to
use the --select y option to force it to be added.  I have -1 set as a
default in make.conf and when I want something added to the world file,
I have to use that option to force it.  I did that because I was tired
of things being added to world that I didn't want there. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Manuel McLure]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:05 AM Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?
>

I tested this and I found that the "emerge -n @kernels" did not add
@kernels to /var/lib/portage/world_sets. However, if I manually edited
world_sets and added @kernels then this works as expected.
-- 
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...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
no man may kill a cat.   -- H.P. Lovecraft

Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:49:26 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> > > > Put this in /etc/portage/sets.conf
> > > > 
> > > > [kernels]
> > > > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
> > > > world-candidate = False
> > > > files = /usr/src
> > > > 
> > > > Then "emerge -n @kernels"
> > > > 
> > > > Now depclean won't try to remove any kernels, or any other package
> > > > that installs files to /usr/src.
> > > Well, this didn't seem to work, when I tried to emerge -n @kernels
> > > it said nothing to emerge, after the calculating, etc.   
> > 
> > It won't emerge anything, that command adds the kernels set to
> > world_sets. 
> > > and it certainly did not work.  
> > 
> > As in depclean still wants to remove kernels? Or as in nothing
> > /appeared/ to happen?  
> 
> As in depclean still wants to remove kernels.

Is @kernels in /var/lib/portage/world_sets?


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Re: [gentoo-user] virtual/pam masked but required by all non-hardened profiles?

[Marc Joliet]

Am Montag, 14. Oktober 2019, 17:26:32 CEST schrieb Grant Edwards:
> This morning emerge is complaining that virtual/pam-0-r1 is masked and
> scheduled for removal in 14 days.  But virtual/pam is required by
> sys-apps/shadow which is part of the base profiles.
>
> What am I missing?

FYI: The mask has been reverted, so people should stop seeing this message:

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?
id=ab207de832114e7440c93e128b50ff2d58324d6a

(The problem was that the dependency changes I mentioned were in part done
without a corresponding revbump, meaning portage would not pick them up by
itself :-/ .)

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[John Covici]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 04:13:33 -0400,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 03:55:02 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> 
> > > Put this in /etc/portage/sets.conf
> > > 
> > > [kernels]
> > > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
> > > world-candidate = False
> > > files = /usr/src
> > > 
> > > Then "emerge -n @kernels"
> > > 
> > > Now depclean won't try to remove any kernels, or any other package
> > > that installs files to /usr/src.  
> > Well, this didn't seem to work, when I tried to emerge -n @kernels it
> > said nothing to emerge, after the calculating, etc. 
> 
> It won't emerge anything, that command adds the kernels set to world_sets.
> 
> > and it certainly did not work.
> 
> As in depclean still wants to remove kernels? Or as in nothing /appeared/
> to happen?

As in depclean still wants to remove kernels.

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Re: [gentoo-user] For all you sudo-happy users out there!

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Mick wrote:
>I have very limited sudo commands configured, but I better resync to see 
>what's the latest stable sudo on the tree.
>
>https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/14/linux-unix-sudo-command-security-flaw/?
>guccounter=1

Yeah right, that link leads to
https://guce.advertising.com/collectIdentifiers?...

Well not with uMatrix.

-dnh, using sudo only for a few very specific commands for specific users.

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[gentoo-user] For all you sudo-happy users out there!

[Mick]

I have very limited sudo commands configured, but I better resync to see 
what's the latest stable sudo on the tree.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/14/linux-unix-sudo-command-security-flaw/?
guccounter=1


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: virtual/pam masked but required by all non-hardened profiles?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 14 October 2019 19:45:49 BST Hartmut Figge wrote:
> William Hubbs:
> >On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 07:24:00PM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> >> Phew. 262 packages will be emerged. Well, that will take some time.
> >
> >Ouch, it sounds like you haven't updated in a while.
> 
> Mhm, ca. 2 times in a month. Using -q -uDN @world. Earlier today i have
> noticed one oddity. After a --depclean a @preserved-rebuild was
> demanded. That resulted in an emerge of gst-plugins-base.

You might like to try a cron job like this:

@monthly /usr/bin/emerge -upDvU --changed-deps=y @world

That runs overnight on the first of the month and emails me a list of packages 
to be updated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 03:55:02 -0400, John Covici wrote:

> > Put this in /etc/portage/sets.conf
> > 
> > [kernels]
> > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
> > world-candidate = False
> > files = /usr/src
> > 
> > Then "emerge -n @kernels"
> > 
> > Now depclean won't try to remove any kernels, or any other package
> > that installs files to /usr/src.  
> Well, this didn't seem to work, when I tried to emerge -n @kernels it
> said nothing to emerge, after the calculating, etc. 

It won't emerge anything, that command adds the kernels set to world_sets.

> and it certainly did not work.

As in depclean still wants to remove kernels? Or as in nothing /appeared/
to happen?


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Re: [gentoo-user] problems with depclean

[John Covici]

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 04:03:53 -0400,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> [1  ]
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 03:21:52 -0400, John Covici wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, I do need the current sources, lots of packages want to check
> > them and the linux directory entry points to the sources, packages are
> > always looking in there when I emerge them.
> 
> Put this in /etc/portage/sets.conf
> 
> [kernels]
> class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet
> world-candidate = False
> files = /usr/src
> 
> Then "emerge -n @kernels"
> 
> Now depclean won't try to remove any kernels, or any other package that
> installs files to /usr/src.
Well, this didn't seem to work, when I tried to emerge -n @kernels it
said nothing to emerge, after the calculating, etc. and it certainly
did not work.  Also, depclean did some other strange things -- on
another system I have it wanted to unmerge dev-util/glib-utils-2.58.3
which is my installed version, but doing an eix on that package, there
seems to be an update.  However, doing a world update says 0
packages, so what am I missing?

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