Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after Plasma update to 5.17.4 : solved
This sounds like a bug to me. Could you please report it on bugs.gentoo.org. This is a regression and should prevent stabilization of 5.17. There is still one more bug fix release until we hit a stable candidate 5.17.5. Thx Franz Am So., 29. Dez. 2019 um 08:54 Uhr schrieb Philip Webb : > I've solved the missing L-click problem quite simply for my own use. > > Use R-click to open the desktop context menu -> Configure Desktop > -> Mouse Actions -> Right Button : make it Application Launcher ; > that brings back the desktop menu of applications. > > There was 1 problem : I could no longer access the context menu ! > So I changed the line in plasma-whatsit in ~/.config > to make the middle button bring up 'contextmenu' & everything was usable. > I had lost the possibility of dumping text into a sticky note, > but as I never want to do that in real life, it's an advantage. > > L-click still does nothing on the desktop, but I can live with that. > > HTH > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after Plasma update to 5.17.4 : solved
I've solved the missing L-click problem quite simply for my own use. Use R-click to open the desktop context menu -> Configure Desktop -> Mouse Actions -> Right Button : make it Application Launcher ; that brings back the desktop menu of applications. There was 1 problem : I could no longer access the context menu ! So I changed the line in plasma-whatsit in ~/.config to make the middle button bring up 'contextmenu' & everything was usable. I had lost the possibility of dumping text into a sticky note, but as I never want to do that in real life, it's an advantage. L-click still does nothing on the desktop, but I can live with that. HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time
191228 Philip Webb wrote: >> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time. >> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America), >> but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST. > The 'date' command give : 'Sat 28 Dec 2019 09:44:07 PM EST' correctly. > the digital clock in the panel continues to show '16:44:07 EST' ; > When I look at the 'Date + Time' display itself, > the analog clock shows the correct time, as does the legend below. I just checked Fluxbox : its panel clock showed '22:06' correctly. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE panel shows wrong time
191228 David Haller wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Philip Webb wrote: >> I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time. >> The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America), >> but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST. > Check your "HW clock is on local or UTC time" settings ... In the system as a whole, that's always been my setting. The 'date' command give : 'Sat 28 Dec 2019 09:44:07 PM EST' correctly. In KDE, System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Date+Time -> Time Zone shows 'UTC' ; if I change it to 'Toronto', then 'Apply', there's no change : the digital clock in the panel continues to show '16:44:07 EST' ; anyway, the Time Zone display tells me I can't save the configuration. When I look at the 'Date + Time' display itself, the analog clock shows the correct time, as does the legend below. In ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc , it says : [Containments][16][Applets][21][Configuration][Appearance] dateFormat=isoDate lastSelectedTimezone=America/Toronto selectedTimeZones=America/Toronto showDate=true showSeconds=true use24hFormat=2 This is what I would expect to see. Why can't I save the configuration above ? Perhaps that's the problem. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
191228 Philip Webb wrote: > When I updated, Portage (or whatever) kindly created a back-up '...~', > so I have diff'ed the 2 versions as below : > > 2d1 > < LeftButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher -- snipped -- The '<' version is the new one, the '>' version is the old one, so the launcher above is present in the new one. I've tried setting it via the context menu (R-click on desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Mouse Actions -> Add Action -> L-click there), which creates a new line 'Left Button : Standard Menu', which I then change to 'Application Launcher', then 'Apply' + 'OK'. There's no change : L-click on desktop has no effect, then or after reboot. File ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc shows : [ActionPlugins][0] LeftButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu wheel:Vertical;NoModifier=org.kde.switchdesktop Middle-click in fact creates a sticky note containing clipboard contents (ouch : I had to look in my notes to find out how to remove it, ie by R-click on the R-hand side of the note, which gives a menu). HTH others to find out what's going on. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
191228 Dan Johansson wrote: > After some fiddling around, sorry research, > I narrowed down the issue to one single file : > ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc When I updated, Portage (or whatever) kindly created a back-up '...~', so I have diff'ed the 2 versions as below : 2d1 < LeftButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher 7,24d5 < [ActionPlugins][0][RightButton;NoModifier] < _add panel=true < _context=true < _lock_screen=true < _logout=true < _run_command=true < _sep1=true < _sep2=true < _sep3=true < _wallpaper=true < add widgets=true < configure=true < configure shortcuts=false < lock widgets=true < manage activities=true < remove=true < run associated application=true < 48,54d28 < [Containments][16][Applets][17][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][16][Applets][17][Configuration][ConfigDialog] < DialogHeight=600 < DialogWidth=800 < 57,58d30 < favoritesPortedToKAstats=true < systemApplications=systemsettings.desktop,org.kde.kinfocenter.desktop 70,72d41 < [Containments][16][Applets][18][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 77,79d45 < [Containments][16][Applets][19][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 93,96d58 < [Containments][16][Applets][20][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=92 < SystrayContainmentId=21 < 109,111d70 < [Containments][16][Applets][21][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 114d72 < fontFamily=Luxi Mono 128,130d85 < [Containments][16][Applets][27][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 135,137d89 < [Containments][16][Applets][37][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 142c94 < DialogHeight=76 --- > DialogHeight=85 145,147d96 < [Containments][16][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < 151,208d99 < [Containments][21] < activityId= < formfactor=2 < immutability=1 < lastScreen=0 < location=4 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.private.systemtray < wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image < < [Containments][21][Applets][38] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.clipboard < < [Containments][21][Applets][38][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][Applets][39] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier < < [Containments][21][Applets][39][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=92 < < [Containments][21][Applets][40] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.keyboardindicator < < [Containments][21][Applets][40][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][Applets][41] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.notifications < < [Containments][21][Applets][41][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][Applets][42] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.vault < < [Containments][21][Applets][42][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][Applets][43] < immutability=1 < plugin=org.kde.plasma.battery < < [Containments][21][Applets][43][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 < < [Containments][21][General] < extraItems=org.kde.plasma.notifications,org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier,org.kde.plasma.battery,org.kde.plasma.clipboard,org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller,org.kde.plasma.vault,org.kde.plasma.keyboardindicator < knownItems=org.kde.plasma.notifications,org.kde.plasma.devicenotifier,org.kde.plasma.battery,org.kde.plasma.clipboard,org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller,org.kde.plasma.vault,org.kde.plasma.keyboardindicator < 210d100 < ItemGeometriesHorizontal= 219,220c109,111 < [Containments][7][Applets][42][Configuration][General] < url=file:///home/purslow/.local/share/applications/_usr_games_bin_lightup-sgt-puzzles.desktop --- > [Containments][7][Applets][32] > immutability=1 > plugin=org.kde.plasma.notes 222c113 < [Containments][7][ConfigDialog] --- > [Containments][7][Applets][32][Configuration][ConfigDialog] 226,227c117,122 < [Containments][7][Configuration] < PreloadWeight=0 --- > [Containments][7][Applets][32][Configuration][General] > noteId=5be6cd77-115f-43e3-860b-15972fbea2 > > [Containments][7][ConfigDialog] > DialogHeight=600 > DialogWidth=800 230,231c125 < ToolBoxButtonState=top < ToolBoxButtonX=1658 --- > ItemsGeometries=Applet-32:688,592,288,288,0; -- end of diff -- HTH someone pin down the crucial change(s). If anyone does, please let the rest of us know. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
On 28/12/19 18:14, Dale wrote: > I'm pretty much certain you are right. That rings a bell in those cells > between my ears. It is turned off in make.conf too. I can't recall > what all that thing did but I remember people not wanting it. I just > followed a bunch of others on that. Can't be to important since I do > what I need to without it. lol That's that thing I think I mentioned - that basically made KDE *UNUSABLE* in the early days of KDE4. My ancient thunderbird athlon took over a day from login to desktop - I don't know how long because I killed it and switched to LXDE or something like that. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:14:05 GMT Dale wrote: >> >> I'm pretty much certain you are right. That rings a bell in those cells >> between my ears. It is turned off in make.conf too. I can't recall >> what all that thing did but I remember people not wanting it. I just >> followed a bunch of others on that. Can't be to important since I do >> what I need to without it. lol >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > Wikipedia explains what semantic search is. Pretty much what Google does > when > your search for something and you find a bunch of MSWindows answers coming up > top, annoying the hell out you! LOL! > > PS. I tend to add "-Windows" in many searches these days in order to keep my > blood pressure down. :-p > When I have a error, I search bgo first, fgo 2nd and then go to startpage/google and use the quote marks. There's not to many windoze errors that way. That said, I often find the answer I want on the 2nd or 3rd page. Sometimes it is even deeper than that. Given what you said, no wonder so many wanted to get rid of the thing. lol It's like a pocket full of sand when standing on the beach. Pretty much worthless. :/ I still haven't had the chance to logout and back in yet. I assembled three battery desulfators today. I ordered the boards off ebay, put them in PVC pipe to protect them and installed one so far. I'm testing it on the lawn mower first. Tractor and car comes next. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 18:14:05 GMT Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 15:30:10 GMT Dale wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:42:07 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I think I'm just going to have to whittle down the number for a > >> while. > >> Maybe later on a fix will come along. Maybe. > > > > What happens if you switch off file indexing in the control panel, or > > just > > its subsidiary option Also Index file content? Workspace > Search > > > Enable File Search. > > I looked around in the System Settings window and can't find that > setting. Am I looking in the right place? I sort of think this is a > separate thing tho. It may be using the same tool but won't be > controlled by system settings. Anything is possible tho. I'll > certainly test the option if I can find it. ;-) > >>> > >>> I may have misled you by calling it the Control Panel. It's actually > >>> System > >>> Settings > Workspace > Search > Enable File Search. > >>> > >>> I wouldn't expect your wallpaper operations to be affected by this, but > >>> then what do I know about it? ;) > >> > >> I must have it disabled by a USE flag or something because there is no > >> mention of search in the list. I recall disabling some stuff when I was > >> switching to KDE4. > > > > It is probably USE="semantic-desktop": > > > > $ euse -i semantic-desktop > > global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) > > > > [+ D ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and > > information retrieval > > > > local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) > > > > [+ D ] semantic-desktop > > > > media-gfx/digikam: Enable kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata support > > > > [+ ] (5) 6.3.0-r1 [gentoo] > > [+ ] (5) 6.4.0 [gentoo] > > I'm pretty much certain you are right. That rings a bell in those cells > between my ears. It is turned off in make.conf too. I can't recall > what all that thing did but I remember people not wanting it. I just > followed a bunch of others on that. Can't be to important since I do > what I need to without it. lol > > Dale > > :-) :-) Wikipedia explains what semantic search is. Pretty much what Google does when your search for something and you find a bunch of MSWindows answers coming up top, annoying the hell out you! LOL! PS. I tend to add "-Windows" in many searches these days in order to keep my blood pressure down. :-p -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
Philip Webb wrote: > 191228 Dale wrote: >> Philip Webb wrote: >>> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE >>> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox. >>> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found >>> or what its replacement is ? >> I think this might make sense to you : >> "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx, >> append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your .xinitrc file. > Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE ! > > However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now. > I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ? > > I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time. > The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America), > but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST. > Has anyone else seen this ? > Since mine is working, here is my file with a few irrelevant parts removed. For future reference, anyone posting this who doesn't want to have everyone knowing where you live etc, filter this file. I found city name, state, zip code and such in this thing. O_O [ActionPlugins][0] MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu [ActionPlugins][0][RightButton;NoModifier] _add panel=true _context=true _lock_screen=true _logout=true _run_command=true _sep1=true _sep2=true _sep3=true _wallpaper=true add widgets=true configure=true configure shortcuts=false lock widgets=true manage activities=true remove=true run associated application=true [ActionPlugins][1] RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.contextmenu [Containments][10] ItemGeometriesHorizontal= activityId=31065c92-9e8f-487b-98b9-ffb3f31aeb56 formfactor=0 immutability=1 lastScreen=0 location=0 plugin=org.kde.plasma.folder wallpaperplugin=org.kde.slideshow [Containments][10][ConfigDialog] DialogHeight=943 DialogWidth=1434 [Containments][10][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 [Containments][10][General] ToolBoxButtonState=topright ToolBoxButtonX=1884 arrangement=1 [Containments][10][Wallpaper][org.kde.plasma.wallpaper.worldmap][General] projection=Mercator [Containments][10][Wallpaper][org.kde.potd][General] FillMode=1 [Containments][11] ItemGeometriesHorizontal= activityId=31065c92-9e8f-487b-98b9-ffb3f31aeb56 formfactor=0 immutability=1 lastScreen=1 location=0 plugin=org.kde.plasma.folder wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image [Containments][11][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 [Containments][11][Wallpaper][org.kde.image][General] Image=file:///usr/share/wallpapers/Next/contents/images/1920x1080.png [Containments][3] activityId= formfactor=2 immutability=1 lastScreen=0 location=4 plugin=org.kde.panel wallpaperplugin=org.kde.image [Containments][3][Applets][15] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.kicker [Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration] PreloadWeight=89 [Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration][ConfigDialog] DialogHeight=660 DialogWidth=880 [Containments][3][Applets][15][Configuration][General] favoritesPortedToKAstats=true [Containments][3][Applets][16] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon [Containments][3][Applets][16][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/firefox (1).desktop url=file:///home/dale/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop [Containments][3][Applets][17] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon [Containments][3][Applets][17][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/seamonkey (1).desktop url=file:///home/dale/.local/share/applications/seamonkey.desktop [Containments][3][Applets][19] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewer [Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 [Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration][ConfigDialog] DialogHeight=540 DialogWidth=720 [Containments][3][Applets][19][Configuration][General] cpuAllActivated=true monitorType=Compact Bar setColorsManually=true [Containments][3][Applets][21] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.systemmonitor.net [Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 [Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration][ConfigDialog] DialogHeight=540 DialogWidth=720 [Containments][3][Applets][21][Configuration][General] sources=network%2Finterfaces%2Feth1%2Ftransmitter%2Fdata [Containments][3][Applets][22] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.plasma.icon [Containments][3][Applets][22][Configuration] PreloadWeight=0 localPath=/home/dale/.local/share/plasma_icons/systemsettings (1).desktop url=file:///usr/share/applications/systemsettings.desktop [Containments][3][Applets][25] immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.weatherWidget [Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration] PreloadWeight=100 [Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][Appearance] layoutType=Vertical renderMeteogram=true [Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][ConfigDialog] DialogHeight=720 DialogWidth=960 [Containments][3][Applets][25][Configuration][Units] pressureType=inHg
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 15:30:10 GMT Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:42:07 GMT Dale wrote: >> I think I'm just going to have to whittle down the number for a while. >> Maybe later on a fix will come along. Maybe. > What happens if you switch off file indexing in the control panel, or > just > its subsidiary option Also Index file content? Workspace > Search > > Enable File Search. I looked around in the System Settings window and can't find that setting. Am I looking in the right place? I sort of think this is a separate thing tho. It may be using the same tool but won't be controlled by system settings. Anything is possible tho. I'll certainly test the option if I can find it. ;-) >>> I may have misled you by calling it the Control Panel. It's actually >>> System >>> Settings > Workspace > Search > Enable File Search. >>> >>> I wouldn't expect your wallpaper operations to be affected by this, but >>> then what do I know about it? ;) >> I must have it disabled by a USE flag or something because there is no >> mention of search in the list. I recall disabling some stuff when I was >> switching to KDE4. > It is probably USE="semantic-desktop": > > $ euse -i semantic-desktop > global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) > > [+ D ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and > information retrieval > > local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) > > [+ D ] semantic-desktop > media-gfx/digikam: Enable kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata support > [+ ] (5) 6.3.0-r1 [gentoo] > [+ ] (5) 6.4.0 [gentoo] > I'm pretty much certain you are right. That rings a bell in those cells between my ears. It is turned off in make.conf too. I can't recall what all that thing did but I remember people not wanting it. I just followed a bunch of others on that. Can't be to important since I do what I need to without it. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
Philip Webb wrote: > 191228 Dale wrote: >> Philip Webb wrote: >>> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE >>> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox. >>> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found >>> or what its replacement is ? >> I think this might make sense to you : >> "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx, >> append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your .xinitrc file. > Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE ! > > However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now. > I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ? > > I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time. > The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America), > but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST. > Has anyone else seen this ? > Either delete and logout/login again or figure out what line is offending KDE so much. This is the file: plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc Which is located in /home//.config/ . That is what fixed the other persons problem. Knowing what line does this would be nice. You lose pretty much all your settings it seems. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
Hello,
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Philip Webb wrote:
>I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time.
>The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America),
>but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST.
Check your "HW clock is on local or UTC time" settings ...
HTH,
-dnh
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 15:30:10 GMT Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:42:07 GMT Dale wrote: > I think I'm just going to have to whittle down the number for a while. > Maybe later on a fix will come along. Maybe. > >>> > >>> What happens if you switch off file indexing in the control panel, or > >>> just > >>> its subsidiary option Also Index file content? Workspace > Search > > >>> Enable File Search. > >> > >> I looked around in the System Settings window and can't find that > >> setting. Am I looking in the right place? I sort of think this is a > >> separate thing tho. It may be using the same tool but won't be > >> controlled by system settings. Anything is possible tho. I'll > >> certainly test the option if I can find it. ;-) > > > > I may have misled you by calling it the Control Panel. It's actually > > System > > Settings > Workspace > Search > Enable File Search. > > > > I wouldn't expect your wallpaper operations to be affected by this, but > > then what do I know about it? ;) > > I must have it disabled by a USE flag or something because there is no > mention of search in the list. I recall disabling some stuff when I was > switching to KDE4. It is probably USE="semantic-desktop": $ euse -i semantic-desktop global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [+ D ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and information retrieval local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [+ D ] semantic-desktop media-gfx/digikam: Enable kde-frameworks/kfilemetadata support [+ ] (5) 6.3.0-r1 [gentoo] [+ ] (5) 6.4.0 [gentoo] -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On 28.12.19 14:54, Mick wrote: On Saturday, 28 December 2019 12:52:11 GMT Dan Johansson wrote: After some fiddling around, sorry research, I narrowed down the issue to one single file: ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc After deleting this file, and this file only, my "Left Click" started working again. BUT every single configuration of my Desktop (shortcuts, panel-configuration and so on) was lost in the process. (:-( Well, first computer is done, now for the second one. Have you compared the two 'plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc' files between users? Can it be this entry which is controlling what the right button does? [ActionPlugins][0] MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:42:07 GMT Dale wrote: I think I'm just going to have to whittle down the number for a while. Maybe later on a fix will come along. Maybe. >>> What happens if you switch off file indexing in the control panel, or just >>> its subsidiary option Also Index file content? Workspace > Search > >>> Enable File Search. >> I looked around in the System Settings window and can't find that >> setting. Am I looking in the right place? I sort of think this is a >> separate thing tho. It may be using the same tool but won't be >> controlled by system settings. Anything is possible tho. I'll >> certainly test the option if I can find it. ;-) > I may have misled you by calling it the Control Panel. It's actually System > Settings > Workspace > Search > Enable File Search. > > I wouldn't expect your wallpaper operations to be affected by this, but then > what do I know about it? ;) > I must have it disabled by a USE flag or something because there is no mention of search in the list. I recall disabling some stuff when I was switching to KDE4. On the rare occasion I need to find something, there is locate, find and friends. Plus, Dolphin and other file managers have their own search tools anyway. Worth a shot I guess. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 12:52:11 GMT Dan Johansson wrote: > After some fiddling around, sorry research, I narrowed down the issue to > one single file: > ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc > > After deleting this file, and this file only, my "Left Click" started > working again. BUT every single configuration of my Desktop (shortcuts, > panel-configuration and so on) was lost in the process. (:-( > Well, first computer is done, now for the second one. Have you compared the two 'plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc' files between users? Can it be this entry which is controlling what the right button does? [ActionPlugins][0] MidButton;NoModifier=org.kde.paste RightButton;NoModifier=org.kde.applauncher
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On 28.12.19 10:34, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday, 28 December 2019 09:17:36 GMT Dan Johansson wrote: On 28.12.19 09:18, Dale wrote: Dan Johansson wrote: On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: I'll try and create a new user and see what happens... I'll be back (with the results). Trying a different/new user will give the same results. Renaming the config files to .old or something then testing will allow you to go back if it doesn't help. You just rename and remove .old. Just delete the new one first. Still, either way will work. I have a dale2 user just for that purpose I might add. Given everything is there, I'm not sure what to try next. I was hoping someone else would have a idea. Bad news (for me) (;-) I created a new user and for this user everything works as it should - now I just have to figure out the best way to somehow recreate my personalized setup after moving the old configuration out of the way. Greetings, Instead of recreating all your user settings, I'd start by diffing the two users directories. This would point to files which are probably irrelevant to your issue, e.g. application files, and consequently leave you with some generic desktop configuration files to compare. Plus, this may be a good time to rename the config directory to .old and copy one or two files over at a time until you find a failure. Then you know which file is causing the problem and can restore the other files and only have to reconfigure what that one file creates. Either way you do this it will require some time and effort. Mick's idea may be faster. Files with no difference won't matter so no point copying them over one or two at a time. Just do that for the ones that are different. Keep in mind, you can't always do this with different users unless you change the permissions. Post what, if anything, you figure out tho. It may help some other poor soul with the same issue. After some fiddling around, sorry research, I narrowed down the issue to one single file: ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc After deleting this file, and this file only, my "Left Click" started working again. BUT every single configuration of my Desktop (shortcuts, panel-configuration and so on) was lost in the process. (:-( Well, first computer is done, now for the second one. Thanks for all feedback and a Happy New Year to everyone! -- Dan Johansson *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasmashell and wallpapers.
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:57:16 GMT Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:42:07 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I think I'm just going to have to whittle down the number for a while. > >> Maybe later on a fix will come along. Maybe. > > > > What happens if you switch off file indexing in the control panel, or just > > its subsidiary option Also Index file content? Workspace > Search > > > Enable File Search. > > I looked around in the System Settings window and can't find that > setting. Am I looking in the right place? I sort of think this is a > separate thing tho. It may be using the same tool but won't be > controlled by system settings. Anything is possible tho. I'll > certainly test the option if I can find it. ;-) I may have misled you by calling it the Control Panel. It's actually System Settings > Workspace > Search > Enable File Search. I wouldn't expect your wallpaper operations to be affected by this, but then what do I know about it? ;) -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
191228 Dale wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: >> I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE >> because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox. >> Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found >> or what its replacement is ? > I think this might make sense to you : > "From the console to start Plasma with xinit/startx, > append 'exec startplasma-x11' to your .xinitrc file. Thanks ! -- I'm now back in the questionable glories of KDE ! However, as someone else discovered, the L-click menu doesn't work now. I didn't follow that thread in detail : did anyone solve the problem ? I've also had another KDE desktop problem for a long time. The clock on the panel claims it's showing EST (N America), but in fact deducts another 5 hr , so 06:32 EST shows as 01:32 EST. Has anyone else seen this ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
Philip Webb wrote: > I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE > because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox. > > Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found > or what its replacement is ? > This doesn't make a lot of sense to me since I use the GUI and xdm service. I think this might make sense to you tho. >From the console To start Plasma with xinit/startx, append exec startplasma-x11 to your .xinitrc file. Does that help? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] KDE Plasma problem
I've just updated to KDE Plasma 5.17.4 & can't start KDE because it can't find 'startkde', so I'm back with the elegance of Fluxbox. Can anyone tell me where 'startkde' is now to be found or what its replacement is ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
Mick wrote: > On Saturday, 28 December 2019 09:17:36 GMT Dan Johansson wrote: >> On 28.12.19 09:18, Dale wrote: >>> Dan Johansson wrote: On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: I'll try and create a new user and see what happens... I'll be back (with the results). >>> Trying a different/new user will give the same results. Renaming the >>> config files to .old or something then testing will allow you to go back >>> if it doesn't help. You just rename and remove .old. Just delete the >>> new one first. Still, either way will work. I have a dale2 user just >>> for that purpose I might add. >>> >>> Given everything is there, I'm not sure what to try next. I was hoping >>> someone else would have a idea. >> Bad news (for me) (;-) >> >> I created a new user and for this user everything works as it should - >> now I just have to figure out the best way to somehow recreate my >> personalized setup after moving the old configuration out of the way. >> >> Greetings, > Instead of recreating all your user settings, I'd start by diffing the two > users directories. This would point to files which are probably irrelevant > to > your issue, e.g. application files, and consequently leave you with some > generic desktop configuration files to compare. > Plus, this may be a good time to rename the config directory to .old and copy one or two files over at a time until you find a failure. Then you know which file is causing the problem and can restore the other files and only have to reconfigure what that one file creates. Either way you do this it will require some time and effort. Mick's idea may be faster. Files with no difference won't matter so no point copying them over one or two at a time. Just do that for the ones that are different. Keep in mind, you can't always do this with different users unless you change the permissions. Post what, if anything, you figure out tho. It may help some other poor soul with the same issue. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On Saturday, 28 December 2019 09:17:36 GMT Dan Johansson wrote: > On 28.12.19 09:18, Dale wrote: > > Dan Johansson wrote: > >> On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: > >> I'll try and create a new user and see what happens... > >> > >> I'll be back (with the results). > > > > Trying a different/new user will give the same results. Renaming the > > config files to .old or something then testing will allow you to go back > > if it doesn't help. You just rename and remove .old. Just delete the > > new one first. Still, either way will work. I have a dale2 user just > > for that purpose I might add. > > > > Given everything is there, I'm not sure what to try next. I was hoping > > someone else would have a idea. > > Bad news (for me) (;-) > > I created a new user and for this user everything works as it should - > now I just have to figure out the best way to somehow recreate my > personalized setup after moving the old configuration out of the way. > > Greetings, Instead of recreating all your user settings, I'd start by diffing the two users directories. This would point to files which are probably irrelevant to your issue, e.g. application files, and consequently leave you with some generic desktop configuration files to compare. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On 28.12.19 09:18, Dale wrote: Dan Johansson wrote: On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: I'll try and create a new user and see what happens... I'll be back (with the results). Trying a different/new user will give the same results. Renaming the config files to .old or something then testing will allow you to go back if it doesn't help. You just rename and remove .old. Just delete the new one first. Still, either way will work. I have a dale2 user just for that purpose I might add. Given everything is there, I'm not sure what to try next. I was hoping someone else would have a idea. Bad news (for me) (;-) I created a new user and for this user everything works as it should - now I just have to figure out the best way to somehow recreate my personalized setup after moving the old configuration out of the way. Greetings, -- Dan Johansson *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
Dan Johansson wrote: > On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: > >> root@fireball / # emerge -p kde-frameworks/plasma >> kde-plasma/plasma-desktop kde-plasma/plasma-workspace >> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >> >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [ebuild R ~] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.65.0:5/5.65::gentoo USE="X >> -debug -doc (-gles2) -test -wayland" 0 KiB >> [ebuild R ] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.17.4-r1:5::gentoo >> USE="calendar handbook -appstream -debug -geolocation -gps -qalculate >> -qrcode -semantic-desktop -systemd -test" 0 KiB >> [ebuild R ] kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.17.4-r1:5::gentoo >> USE="fontconfig handbook mouse -debug -ibus -scim -semantic-desktop >> -test -touchpad" 0 KiB >> >> Total: 3 packages (3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 KiB > I am still at plasma-5.64.0 (stable), do you have any special reason > to go to 5.65.0 (~)? I run stable on most things, especially system packages, but run unstable on most desktop type packages. Since I run unstable on KDE, I run unstable on them all unless one has a problem and I need to go back to a working package. > >> It might also be worth testing this on a new user with no old config >> files or renaming the old files and testing a new default set. In the >> past, I've had that fix things. It's not so often anymore but still a >> thought, especially if no one else has any ideas. > > (Re-)moving my old config files is exactly what I _not_ want to do. > The really strange thing, for me, is that exacly the same thing > happened on both my desktop computer and my laptop. > > I'll try and create a new user and see what happens... > > I'll be back (with the results). > Trying a different/new user will give the same results. Renaming the config files to .old or something then testing will allow you to go back if it doesn't help. You just rename and remove .old. Just delete the new one first. Still, either way will work. I have a dale2 user just for that purpose I might add. Given everything is there, I'm not sure what to try next. I was hoping someone else would have a idea. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] "Application Menu" missing on Desktop after KDE/Plasma update from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4
On 27.12.19 22:53, Dale wrote: Dan Johansson wrote: After updating KDE/Plasma from 5.16.5 to 5.17.4 "Left Button" I'd suspect something is missing. Since mine works here, I'll post some info and if no one else comes up with a better idea, maybe you can compare yours and mine and notice something missing or different. root@fireball / # equery f kde-frameworks/plasma | grep menu /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls.2/Plasma/Menu.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls.2/Plasma/MenuItem.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Styles/Plasma/EditMenuTouch.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Styles/Plasma/MenuBarStyle.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Styles/Plasma/MenuStyle.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/calendar/MonthMenu.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/components.3/Menu.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/components.3/MenuItem.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/components/ContextMenu.qml /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/components/ModelContextMenu.qml root@fireball / # They are all there. root@fireball / # equery f kde-plasma/plasma-desktop | grep menu /usr/share/help/en/plasma-desktop/application-menu.png /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus /usr/share/kservices5/ServiceMenus/installfont.desktop /usr/share/kservices5/plasma-layout-template-org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar.desktop /usr/share/metainfo/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar.appdata.xml /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar/contents /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar/contents/layout.js /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar/metadata.desktop /usr/share/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar/metadata.json /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kicker/contents/ui/ActionMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kicker/contents/ui/MenuRepresentation.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/ui/ActionMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kimpanel/contents/ui/ActionMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kimpanel/contents/ui/ContextMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.taskmanager/contents/ui/ContextMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.desktop/contents/configuration/panelconfiguration/MoreSettingsMenu.qml root@fireball / # As are these. root@fireball / # equery f kde-plasma/plasma-workspace | grep menu /etc/xdg/autostart/gmenudbusmenuproxy.desktop /usr/bin/gmenudbusmenuproxy /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kded/appmenu.so /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/applets/plasma_applet_appmenu.so /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/plasma/containmentactions/plasma_containmentactions_contextmenu.so /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/private/appmenu /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/private/appmenu/libappmenuplugin.so /usr/lib64/qt5/qml/org/kde/plasma/private/appmenu/qmldir /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar.xml /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.kappmenu.xml /usr/share/desktop-directories/kf5-settingsmenu.directory /usr/share/kservices5/plasma-applet-org.kde.plasma.appmenu.desktop /usr/share/metainfo/org.kde.plasma.appmenu.appdata.xml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/config /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/config/config.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/config/main.xml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/ui /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/ui/configGeneral.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/contents/ui/main.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/metadata.desktop /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.appmenu/metadata.json /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.clipboard/contents/ui/Menu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.digitalclock/contents/ui/MonthMenu.qml /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.notifications/contents/ui/EditContextMenu.qml /usr/share/sddm/themes/breeze/BreezeMenuStyle.qml root@fireball / # And these. I don't see any USE flags that would matter but just in case. Neither can I. root@fireball / # emerge -p kde-frameworks/plasma kde-plasma/plasma-desktop kde-plasma/plasma-workspace These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ~] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.65.0:5/5.65::gentoo USE="X -debug -doc (-gles2) -test -wayland" 0 KiB [ebuild R ] kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.17.4-r1:5::gentoo USE="calendar handbook -appstream -debug -geolocation -gps -qalculate -qrcode -semantic-desktop -systemd -test" 0 KiB [ebuild R ] kde-plasma/plasma-desktop-5.17.4-r1:5::gentoo USE="fontconfig handbook mouse -debug -ibus -scim -semantic-desktop -test -touchpad" 0 KiB Total: 3 packages (3
