Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with Fetchmail

[Philip Webb]

191211 Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> On 12/10/19 11:03 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> A few days ago, I updated Fetchmail to the latest stable 6.4.1 .
>> Immediately, it stopped fetching mail from one of my mail forwarders ;
>> the other one still worked, as I found by test-mailing to myself.
>> When I reverted to 6.3.26-r4 , everything worked properly again.
> I had the same problem after updating to 6.4 and managed to fix it
> by adding the "sslproto ''" option to each poll section.
> This immediately made things work again,
> both when piping through POPFile and fetching from GMail.
> See the 6.4.x man page for changes regarding the --sslproto option.

Thanks again, if I didn't thank you before.
I simply reverted, left it that way & forgot all about it
till I noticed that Fetchmail needs Python-2 only when using 'tk'.
Wanting to eliminate Py-2 ASAP, I emerged Fetchmail 6.4.1
& ran into the same problem.  Eventually, I also noticed
that 'sslproto' needs an argument (red face) & added the  '' .
Now it's fetching mail again (big smile).

However, my ISP is now sending me an e-mail every  5 min ,
after Fetchmail checks for mail :

  From: "(Cron Daemon)" 
  To: purslow@***
  Subject: Cron  test -e /var/run/dhcpcd.pid && 
/usr/bin/fetchmail -s 2> /dev/null
  fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

Can anyone tell me how to suppress these msgs ?

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:16:52PM +0100, n952162 wrote
> I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
> organization". Oh yeah? I guess that would be gentoo. How can I break
> that relationship?

  Do you have Avast and/or AVG anti-virus?  See
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1264369 (Firefox) and
https://www.howtogeek.com/410106/why-does-chrome-say-its-managed-by-your-organization/
(Chrome).  Some browsers have started to report when they detect
external control, whether by Windows policies, or Avast/AVG.  Firefox
seems to be following the lead of Chrome here.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

[madscientistatlarge]

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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, March 2, 2020 5:35 PM, Dale  wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > > I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
> > > problem. Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
> > > circuits and how something works. Those pages usually contain text,
> > > pics and such. I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
> > > include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard. I then go to
> > > LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is. Once pasted, I remove
> > > things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
> > > things. I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
> > > well. When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
> > > document. That's how I did it in the past. When I would paste the
> > > contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
> > > well under a minute for sure.
> > > When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics. The boxes is
> > > there and text for the link to the image but no image. It also locks



> > > Thanks.
> > > Dale
> > > :-) :-)
> > > I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with 
> > > the
> > > tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is 
> > > processed/
> > > filtered. When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but
> > > unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency.
> >
> > An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page 
> > As.
> > Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with
> > LO does not take long to process. If you select 'HTML page complete' it will
> > save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete
> > thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit.
>
> Now that helps a LOT.  It works just like it used to work.  Very fast
> too.  It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done.  Everything is
> there too.
>
> It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java
> just to see if that helps.  I'm not sure what all the page contains but
> here's a link to the page I just tested this with.  It's not like it is
> some super secret site or anything.
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html
>
> It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on
> behind the scene.  Maybe some others will enjoy that site.  It has some
> good info and they add stuff pretty regular. 
>
> Thanks much.  It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and
> printed now.  ;-)
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

One caveat when using print to pdf, you should immediately check the pdf, 
sometimes it only saves part of the page, not sure why, trying it again seems 
to usually work.

[gentoo-user] Black screen half way through boot until X startup

[Manuel McLure]

Hi, all, I have the following issue I'm trying to resolve.

I have a stable amd64 Gentoo system running on a Core i5-650 with an Nvidia
GT710 in my home theater PC. It's connected to my home theater receiver via
HDMI and thence to my 4K TV.

The problem I'm seeing is that after the boot starts, the boot messages
scroll up until "Setting system clock using the hardware clock [UTC]" shows
and then the screen goes black. However, the boot continues until Kodi
starts up and the screen shows the Kodi UI. But the screen is blank for
20-30 seconds during the second half of the boot process.

If I look at rc.log I see the following around the time the video goes
black:

 * Loading module coretemp ...
 [ ok ]
 * Loading module w83627ehf ...
 [ ok ]
 * Loading kernel modules ...
insmod
/lib/modules/4.19.97-gentoo-x86_64/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_ondemand.ko
 [ ok ]
 * Setting system clock using the hardware clock [UTC] ...
 [ ok ]
 * The binfmt-misc module needs to be loaded by the modules service or
built in.
 * Mounting misc binary format filesystem ...
 [ ok ]
 * Loading custom binary format handlers ...
 [ ok ]

which matches the messages I see before the black screen.

So this isn't a huge issue _unless_ there's a boot issue. It came to the
fore this weekend when a bad MySQL upgrade caused the boot to hang and I
had a lot of trouble figuring out what the problem was due to the lack of
video. Nothing I did on the keyboard allowed me to see what was going on,
and because MySQL was being started before sshd I couldn't even log in
remotely. It took booting into a LiveCD and looking at the boot logs to
figure out what was going on.

Any ideas? I'm using the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers 440.59 but this has
been happening for a long time with earlier versions as well.
-- 
Manuel A. McLure WW1FA  
...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
no man may kill a cat.   -- H.P. Lovecraft

Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

[Dale]

Michael wrote:
> On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
>> problem.  Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
>> circuits and how something works.  Those pages usually contain text,
>> pics and such.  I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
>> include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard.  I then go to
>> LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is.  Once pasted, I remove
>> things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
>> things.  I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
>> well.  When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
>> document.  That's how I did it in the past.  When I would paste the
>> contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
>> well under a minute for sure. 
>>
>> When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics.  The boxes is
>> there and text for the link to the image but no image.  It also locks
>> LOo up for minutes.  If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. 
>> Even with all that, it never loads the images.  I end up killing the
>> process.  I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out.  I
>> would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the
>> tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again.  I used euse
>> -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would
>> change it.  What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the
>> network anymore.  In the past when I pasted content, I could see
>> activity on the network.  I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe
>> even some other info as well.  Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. 
>> Again, USE flag maybe???
>>
>> Here is the info for libreoffice.
>>
>>
>> root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild   R   ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo  USE="cups dbus
>> gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding
>> -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk
>> -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
>> -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6
>> -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB
>>
>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB
>>
>> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n
>>
>> Quitting.
>>
>> root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice
>>  * Searching for libreoffice ...
>> [-P-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0
>> [IP-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0
>> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0
>> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>>
>> Anyone have a clue how to fix this? 
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with the 
> tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is processed/
> filtered.  When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but 
> unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency.
>
> An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page As. 
>  
> Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with 
> LO does not take long to process.  If you select 'HTML page complete' it will 
> save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete 
> thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit.

Now that helps a LOT.  It works just like it used to work.  Very fast
too.  It took maybe one to two seconds and it was done.  Everything is
there too.

It takes a long while to compile LOo but I'm going to try disabling java
just to see if that helps.  I'm not sure what all the page contains but
here's a link to the page I just tested this with.  It's not like it is
some super secret site or anything.

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/555-circuits-part-1.html

It looks like plain stuff to me but I have no idea what is going on
behind the scene.  Maybe some others will enjoy that site.  It has some
good info and they add stuff pretty regular. 

Thanks much.  It's a workaround but at least I can get them copied and
printed now.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

[Michael]

On Monday, 2 March 2020 23:07:03 GMT Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
> problem.  Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
> circuits and how something works.  Those pages usually contain text,
> pics and such.  I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
> include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard.  I then go to
> LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is.  Once pasted, I remove
> things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
> things.  I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
> well.  When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
> document.  That's how I did it in the past.  When I would paste the
> contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
> well under a minute for sure. 
> 
> When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics.  The boxes is
> there and text for the link to the image but no image.  It also locks
> LOo up for minutes.  If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. 
> Even with all that, it never loads the images.  I end up killing the
> process.  I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out.  I
> would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the
> tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again.  I used euse
> -i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would
> change it.  What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the
> network anymore.  In the past when I pasted content, I could see
> activity on the network.  I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe
> even some other info as well.  Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. 
> Again, USE flag maybe???
> 
> Here is the info for libreoffice.
> 
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo  USE="cups dbus
> gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding
> -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk
> -postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
> -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6
> -python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n
> 
> Quitting.
> 
> root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice
>  * Searching for libreoffice ...
> [-P-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0
> [IP-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0
> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0
> [-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0
> root@fireball / #
> 
> 
> Anyone have a clue how to fix this? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

I haven't looked into how LO works, but it may have something to do with the 
tonne of JavaScript HTML pages contain these days and how this is processed/
filtered.  When I try it here it works for small amounts of text/pics, but 
unlike your LO, I do not have java installed as a dependency.

An alternative you could try is to save the page as HTML - File/Save Page As.  
Then select one of the options to save it as below, which when you open with 
LO does not take long to process.  If you select 'HTML page complete' it will 
save all JS and images in a separate folder, which you could delete 
thereafter, or repurpose as you see fit.

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[gentoo-user] Libreoffice and pasting HTML from web pages.

[Dale]

Howdy,

I don't use LOo a whole lot but several months ago, I noticed a
problem.  Sometimes I go to a electronic type website that has info on
circuits and how something works.  Those pages usually contain text,
pics and such.  I highlight what contains the info I want, which may
include some things I don't, then copy it to my clipboard.  I then go to
LOo and paste it as HTML since that's what it is.  Once pasted, I remove
things I don't want, such as social media icons and other unwanted
things.  I also make some images larger, make text larger and such as
well.  When I get it right, I print it as a pdf file or save it as a LOo
document.  That's how I did it in the past.  When I would paste the
contents, it would include images and all and would be done in seconds,
well under a minute for sure. 

When I paste the content now, it doesn't include pics.  The boxes is
there and text for the link to the image but no image.  It also locks
LOo up for minutes.  If I try to scroll up or down, it locks up again. 
Even with all that, it never loads the images.  I end up killing the
process.  I think this started when the 6.3.* versions came out.  I
would normally go back to a older version but those are no longer in the
tree. I'm wondering if a USE flag could make it work again.  I used euse
-i to see what each flag does but I'm not seeing anything that would
change it.  What I think the problem could be, LOo can't reach the
network anymore.  In the past when I pasted content, I could see
activity on the network.  I think LOo was fetching the pics and maybe
even some other info as well.  Thing is, I don't see why it can't now. 
Again, USE flag maybe???

Here is the info for libreoffice.


root@fireball / # emerge -av libreoffice

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ~] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2::gentoo  USE="cups dbus
gtk java kde mariadb pdfimport -accessibility -bluetooth -branding
-coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -gtk2 -ldap -odk
-postgres -test" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
-scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6
-python3_7 -python3_8" 233,805 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 233,805 KiB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n

Quitting.

root@fireball / # equery list -po libreoffice
 * Searching for libreoffice ...
[-P-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.4.2-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.5.2:0
[-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-6.3.:0
[-P-] [ -] app-office/libreoffice-:0
root@fireball / #


Anyone have a clue how to fix this? 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] firefox managed by my organization?

[n952162]

I have a banner that says that "your browser is being managed by your
organization".  Oh yeah?  I guess that would be gentoo.  How can I break
that relationship?

In particular, when I set my default home page (to blank), after
properly exiting firefox and re-starting, I'm back to the mozilla home
page and I get a mozilla privacy notice tab.  Is that "managed"?

Re: [gentoo-user] Help; stuck in 1024x768 or lower mode on old machine

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 02:40:14PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote
>   I'm checking out my old backup desktop machine and it has dropped to
> 1024x768 max.

  Sorry to bother everybody.  It only does 480P on Youtube, with max cpu
speed selected, so forget about trying to revive  Gentoo on it.  2008
tech just doesn't cut it today.  I've got another project that might be
interesting for it.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

[gentoo-user] Help; stuck in 1024x768 or lower mode on old machine

[Walter Dnes]

  I'm checking out my old backup desktop machine and it has dropped to
1024x768 max.  I distinctly remember it running 1920x1080 on my
1920x1080 monitor in the past. (When I say old, I mean a Dell Inspiron
530 from 2008)  I'm using a KVM switch, like I always have.  Could that
be the problem?  xrandr reports...

[d531][waltdnes][~] xrandr 
Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767
VGA1 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
0mm x 0mm
   1024x768  60.00* 
   800x600   60.3256.25  
   848x480   60.00  
   640x480   59.94  
VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Rasp-Pi-4 Gentoo servers

[Rich Freeman]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:22 AM William Kenworthy  wrote:
>
> I thought lizardfs was much more community minded
> but you are characterising it as similar to moosefs - a taster offering
> by a commercial company holding back some of the non-essential but
> jucier features for the paid version - is that how you see them?

I don't see much of an active community.  It seems like most actual
development happens outside of the public repo, with big code drops by
the private team doing the work (which seems to be associated with a
company).  A bit like the Android model.  I'm sure they'll accept pull
requests, but that isn't how most of the work is getting done.

It seems like the main difference between them and moosefs is that
they're making more stuff FOSS to entice users over.  Shadow masters
are FOSS as opposed to just having metadata loggers.  HA is FOSS in
the latest RC.

So, it seems like their model is to trickle out the non-free stuff and
make it free after a delay.

It really seems like Ceph is the best fully open platform out there,
but the resource requirements just make it impractical.  I have no
doubt that it can scale FAR better with its design, but that design
basically forces every node to be a bit of a powerhouse, versus
Lizardfs where you just have one daemon with all the intelligence and
the rest are just dumping files on disks.  And you really don't need
much CPU/RAM for the master if you're serving large files - the
demands would go up with IOPS and number of files, and multimedia is
low on both.

> By the way, to keep to the rpi subject, I did have a rpi3B with a usb2
> sata drive attached but it was hopeless as a chunkserver impacting the
> whole cluster.  Having the usb data flow and network data flow through
> the same hub just didn't go well

Hard drives plus 100Mbps LAN sharing a single USB 2.0 hub is
definitely not a recipe for NAS success...

When I upgraded to UniFi switches I really only noticed for the first
time how many hosts I have that aren't gigabit, and they're mostly Pis
at this point.  They're nice little project boards but for anything
IO-intensive they're almost always the wrong choice.

The RockPro64 I'm using has gigabit plus PCIe 3.0 x8 plus USB3 and as
far as I can tell they don't have any contention.  Maybe they're all
on a PCIe bus or something but obviously that can handle quite a bit.
Only issue was that the rk3399 PCIe drivers were not the most robust
in the kernel, but ayufan and the IRC channel were both helpful and
his kernel branch is actively maintained, so I was able to get
everything sorted (some delays needed during training to allow boards
to initialize and I was having power issues in the beginning).  Much
of the rk3399 support in the kernel was pushed by Google for
Chromebooks and LSI HBAs weren't exactly on their list of things to
test with those - not sure if the Chromebooks put much of anything on
PCIe.

-- 
Rich