Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:40 PM antlists wrote: > > On 22/05/2020 19:23, Rich Freeman wrote: > > A big problem with drive-managed SMR is that it basically has to > > assume the OS is dumb, which means most writes are in-place with no > > trims, assuming the drive even supports trim. > > I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 19:23, Rich Freeman wrote: A big problem with drive-managed SMR is that it basically has to assume the OS is dumb, which means most writes are in-place with no trims, assuming the drive even supports trim. I think the problem with the current WD Reds is, in part, that the ATA-4

Re: [gentoo-user] Courier Sub-addressing

2020-05-22 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 04:17:24PM +0100, antlists wrote: > If I understand what you are attempting correctly (not a given!) then what > you are trying won't work. You're confusing multiple *folders* with multiple > *users*. Sorry, my original e-mail was quite nondescript. Consider that I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 2:08 PM antlists wrote: > > So what you could do is allocate one zone of CMR to every four or five > zones of SMR and just reshingle each SMR as the CMR filled up. The > important point is that zones can switch from CMR cache to SMR filling > up, to full SMR zones decaying

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 18:20, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM antlists wrote: What puzzles me (or rather, it doesn't, it's just cost cutting), is why you need a *dedicated* cache zone anyway. Stick a left-shift register between the LBA track and the hard drive, and by switching

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dale wrote: >> The thing about the one I have now in use by LVM for /home, one is SMR and >> one is PMR. Even if the OS is aware, does it even know which drive the data >> is going to end up being stored on? I'm pretty sure since the PMR

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM antlists wrote: > > What puzzles me (or rather, it doesn't, it's just cost cutting), is why > you need a *dedicated* cache zone anyway. > > Stick a left-shift register between the LBA track and the hard drive, > and by switching this on you write to tracks

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dale wrote: > > The thing about the one I have now in use by LVM for /home, one is SMR and > one is PMR. Even if the OS is aware, does it even know which drive the data > is going to end up being stored on? I'm pretty sure since the PMR drive was > in use

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 16:43, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: An interesting article mentioning WD Red NAS drives which may actually be SMRs and how latency increases when cached writes need to be transferred into SMR blocks. Yeah, there is a lot of background on

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: >> An interesting article mentioning WD Red NAS drives which may actually be >> SMRs >> and how latency increases when cached writes need to be transferred into SMR >> blocks. > Yeah, there is a lot of background on this

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: > > An interesting article mentioning WD Red NAS drives which may actually be SMRs > and how latency increases when cached writes need to be transferred into SMR > blocks. Yeah, there is a lot of background on this stuff. You should view a

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 10 May 2020 21:52:54 BST antlists wrote: > On 10/05/2020 20:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I did find a WD Red 8TB drive. It costs a good bit more. It's a good > >> deal but still costs more. I'm going to keep looking. Eventually I'll > >> either spend the money on the drive or find a

Re: [gentoo-user] Courier Sub-addressing

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 21/05/2020 21:14, Ashley Dixon wrote: Hello, I am attempting to set up sub-addressing on my Courier mail server, allowing senders to directly deliver messages to a particular folder in my mailbox. For example, I want to provide my University with the address

Re: [gentoo-user] Courier Sub-addressing

2020-05-22 Thread james
On 5/21/20 4:14 PM, Ashley Dixon wrote: Hello, I am attempting to set up sub-addressing on my Courier mail server, allowing senders to directly deliver messages to a particular folder in my mailbox. For example, I want to provide my University with the address

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers-440.82-r3 failing to compile: Kernel configuration is invalid

2020-05-22 Thread Ján Zahornadský
On 21/05/2020 20:25, Ashley Dixon wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:13:38PM +0100, Ján Zahornadský wrote: when updating the system today, a new revision of nvidia-drivers ebuild fails with ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid. include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf