Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Dale
Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:09:16 >> From: John Covici >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] >> >> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:49:54 -0400, >> Jude DaShiell wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 00:09:16 > From: John Covici > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:49:54 -0400, > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multilib ABI specific CPU use flags?

2020-10-10 Thread Jonathan Yong
On 10/10/20 7:53 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 03:47:42AM +, Jonathan Yong wrote: The notion that I am unable to fix a problem myself, on a system that I own, because of some technicality, even as a temporary measure is disconcerting. Controlling every piece of how a

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 19:49:54 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:34:43 > > From: Neil Bothwick > > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > > > On Sat, 10

[gentoo-user] one other possibility

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
It could be gentoo-nofb can't run accessibility if it's one of the kernels not already on the install-minimal cd. Why this may be the case I don't know that's above my pay grade. I'll check that out and find out what I can find out. If I manage to get it installed and working I'll let you know.

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Dale
Jude DaShiell wrote: > I got 5.4.66 sources installed and then did: > emerge --unmerge espeakup espeak portaudio > emerge espeakup espeak portaudio > One of the messages stated config_speakup and config_speakup-synth_soft > options are not configured in this kernel and those would have to be set >

[gentoo-user] gentoo handbook

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
missing lots of accessibility-related material. I've installed several other versions of Linux before and got them accessible using material found mostly on the internet for instructions. The first one was RedHat 5.0 when that was a current distribution. After that, slackware, debian, fedora

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
I got 5.4.66 sources installed and then did: emerge --unmerge espeakup espeak portaudio emerge espeakup espeak portaudio One of the messages stated config_speakup and config_speakup-synth_soft options are not configured in this kernel and those would have to be set correctly to avoid unexpected

[gentoo-user] Re:

2020-10-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-10-09, Jude DaShiell wrote: > If I have a desktop on a machine I go with mate when possible since I > never liked unity when it was part of gnome. I ought to check in on lxqt > since that's what Linus Torvalds was using last time I read about that. I installed lxqt on a recent Ubuntu

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:34:43 > From: Neil Bothwick > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > I did make menuconf in

Re: [gentoo-user] problem with open-rc - daemon is running but rc-service says stopped

2020-10-10 Thread Jack
On 2020.10.10 17:30, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2020-10-10 14:02, Jack wrote: > > I suppose if I put elogind in the default runlevel, then open-rc will > hopefully start it before it would otherwise get launched, but I'm > curious how I could track down what is currently causing it to be >

Re: [gentoo-user] problem with open-rc - daemon is running but rc-service says stopped

2020-10-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2020-10-10 14:02, Jack wrote: > > I suppose if I put elogind in the default runlevel, then open-rc will > hopefully start it before it would otherwise get launched, but I'm > curious how I could track down what is currently causing it to be > started. > If you built elogind with

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 02:03:52PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Okay thanks. When I tried that I got a message masked by amd64 keyword > and returned to the chroot prompt. If you really want to specify the version on the command line with a one-liner, couple it with the `--autounmask` and

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:52:06 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > You need to be running ~arch for this, or have gentoo-sources in > > package.accept_keywords, 5.4.66 is the latest in stable. > > > .66 is certainly OK as well, I am on the ~arch which I happen to find > useful. I run ~arch here, but

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
Okay thanks. When I tried that I got a message masked by amd64 keyword and returned to the chroot prompt. On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:49:52 > From: John Covici > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re:

[gentoo-user] problem with open-rc - daemon is running but rc-service says stopped

2020-10-10 Thread Jack
"rc-service elogind status" says it is stopped, but "ps auxf | grep elogind" shows elogind-daemon is running. /run/elogind.pid has the correct pid for the daemon. Based on we searches for similar issues, I discovered that that /run/openrc/started/elogind did not exist. "ln -s

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:36:26 -0400, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:20:09 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > How can I emerge the sources for this version of the kernel? I think > > John suggested 5.4.69. > > emerge -1a gentoo-sources:5.4.69 > > You need to be running

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:20:09 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > How can I emerge the sources for this version of the kernel? I think John > suggested 5.4.69. > > Just emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.4.69 The = sign is important, you can emerge any specific version in the tree this way. --

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:20:09 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > How can I emerge the sources for this version of the kernel? I think > John suggested 5.4.69. emerge -1a gentoo-sources:5.4.69 You need to be running ~arch for this, or have gentoo-sources in package.accept_keywords, 5.4.66 is the

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I did make menuconf in /usr/src/linux and in devices->staging drivers I > found nothing to enable. Speakup got moved out of staging so that's > understandable. in device drivers->accessibility all I found was enable > app-accessibility

[gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
How can I emerge the sources for this version of the kernel? I think John suggested 5.4.69. --

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, John Covici wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 11:52:04 > From: John Covici > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020,

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:00:04 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 08:17:07 > > From: Ashley Dixon > > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > > > On Sat, Oct

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Ashley Dixon wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 08:17:07 > From: Ashley Dixon > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 07:45:14AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I didn't emerge

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 07:45:14AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I didn't emerge portaudio or pulseaudio before emerging espeak so will > have to reemerge espeak to pick those USE variables up. You don't *need* portaudio or Pulse, but then you'll only be able to create WAV files, and not have

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Michael wrote: > Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 06:46:18 > From: Michael > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] > > On Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:13:42 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 19:55:20 -0400,

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:13:42 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 19:55:20 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > If I have a desktop on a machine I go with mate when possible since I > > never liked unity when it was part of gnome. > > Then use the plain desktop profile. > > > I

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 19:55:20 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > If I have a desktop on a machine I go with mate when possible since I > never liked unity when it was part of gnome. Then use the plain desktop profile. > I ought to check in on > lxqt since that's what Linus Torvalds was using last

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sda=stroke boot parameter

2020-10-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/10/20 23:49, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-10-09, Ashley Dixon wrote: > >> Especially with `grub-mkconfig`, you don't have to manually edit >> configuration >> files at all, which doesn't seem to be an option for users of LILO. > > I always had a lot of problems getting

Re: [gentoo-user] about to install kernel source package

2020-10-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/10/20 01:09, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Before I do this, would it be useful to do > emerge --config espeak in the chroot environment? > On a previous kernel install failure, I ended up emerging espeakup and it > was only then I found the accessibility support submenu in make menuconfig > had

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multilib ABI specific CPU use flags?

2020-10-10 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 03:47:42AM +, Jonathan Yong wrote: > The notion that I am unable to fix a problem myself, on a system that I own, > because of some technicality, even as a temporary measure is disconcerting. > Controlling every piece of how a software is configured, built and installed

Re: [gentoo-user] about to install kernel source package

2020-10-10 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 08:09:22PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Before I do this, would it be useful to do > emerge --config espeak in the chroot environment? Unless you've changed anything espeak-related since the initial emerge, I don't think `--config` will do anything. It does not have a