Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On 3/18/22 1:03 PM, n952162 wrote: I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this? I've got a Gentoo image running in Linode without any problem. I'm fairly certain that they offer Gentoo as an option when creating the VPS. It's been too long and I've messed with too many things since then. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On 3/18/22 21:16, tastytea wrote:
On 2022-03-18 20:53+0100 n952162 wrote:
On 3/18/22 20:40, Matthias Hanft wrote:
n952162 schrieb:
I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform
offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering
if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience
doing this?
Yes. I have a Remote Console using a Java Applet (via VPN) where I
can select an ISO image on my local disk (also for boot). So the
Gentoo installation was just as straight forward as at home - no
problem.
The prerequisite is, of course, that the provider does offer a
Remote Console and the ISO option. I was lucky enough :-)
-Matt
You booted the minimal install ISO and went through the steps of
partitioning the disk, network, etc?
I was thinking that there were special drivers necessary for the
virtual devices offered by the platform. Maybe even proprietary
Maybe I don't understand it correctly.
Most providers just use the virtualization that is built into the Linux
kernel, the same QEMU/KVM that you can setup yourself with libvirt. You
need to select some VIRTIO drivers but that's about the only difference
to a “normal” system. As far as I know sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel{,-bin}
has everything needed built in.
See also .
Good link, thank you.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On 2022-03-18 20:53+0100 n952162 wrote:
> On 3/18/22 20:40, Matthias Hanft wrote:
> > n952162 schrieb:
> >> I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform
> >> offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering
> >> if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience
> >> doing this?
> > Yes. I have a Remote Console using a Java Applet (via VPN) where I
> > can select an ISO image on my local disk (also for boot). So the
> > Gentoo installation was just as straight forward as at home - no
> > problem.
> >
> > The prerequisite is, of course, that the provider does offer a
> > Remote Console and the ISO option. I was lucky enough :-)
> >
> > -Matt
> >
>
> You booted the minimal install ISO and went through the steps of
> partitioning the disk, network, etc?
>
> I was thinking that there were special drivers necessary for the
> virtual devices offered by the platform. Maybe even proprietary
>
> Maybe I don't understand it correctly.
Most providers just use the virtualization that is built into the Linux
kernel, the same QEMU/KVM that you can setup yourself with libvirt. You
need to select some VIRTIO drivers but that's about the only difference
to a “normal” system. As far as I know sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel{,-bin}
has everything needed built in.
See also .
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
* Raphael Mejias Dias: > I've read this question and now I'm curious about how much it would > cost to compile a Gentoo system into cloud. Anyone know this? The cheapest Gentoo VMs of mine are based on Hetzner's CX11 [1] which cost 3,49 EUR per month (plus VAT, but no setup fees). Gentoo can be installed by booting Hetzner's custom "rescue image" Linux which comes will full network support, which is all that is required. [1] https://www.hetzner.com/cloud?country=ot Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Hetzner beyond having used their services for more than 15 years. -Ralph
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On 3/18/22 20:40, Matthias Hanft wrote: n952162 schrieb: I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this? Yes. I have a Remote Console using a Java Applet (via VPN) where I can select an ISO image on my local disk (also for boot). So the Gentoo installation was just as straight forward as at home - no problem. The prerequisite is, of course, that the provider does offer a Remote Console and the ISO option. I was lucky enough :-) -Matt You booted the minimal install ISO and went through the steps of partitioning the disk, network, etc? I was thinking that there were special drivers necessary for the virtual devices offered by the platform. Maybe even proprietary Maybe I don't understand it correctly.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
n952162 schrieb: > I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me > some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can compile > gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this? Yes. I have a Remote Console using a Java Applet (via VPN) where I can select an ISO image on my local disk (also for boot). So the Gentoo installation was just as straight forward as at home - no problem. The prerequisite is, of course, that the provider does offer a Remote Console and the ISO option. I was lucky enough :-) -Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:22 PM tastytea wrote: > On 2022-03-18 20:03+0100 n952162 wrote: > > > I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me > > some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can > > compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this? > > If the platform offers you access to the VGA output via VNC or whatever > and lets you mount an ISO in a virtual DVD drive, it pretty much works > like any other Gentoo install. > > Another option is to shrink your filesystem and partition, make a new > partition and install Gentoo from the old install. > > You could also try to make Grub boot into an ISO in your /boot > partition. If you don't have access to the VGA output, you could try to > find a ISO that starts an SSH server automatically and lets you set the > password via the kernel cmdline. > > Kind regards, tastytea > I've read this question and now I'm curious about how much it would cost to compile a Gentoo system into cloud. Anyone know this? Regards, Raphael
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
On 2022-03-18 20:03+0100 n952162 wrote: > I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me > some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can > compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this? If the platform offers you access to the VGA output via VNC or whatever and lets you mount an ISO in a virtual DVD drive, it pretty much works like any other Gentoo install. Another option is to shrink your filesystem and partition, make a new partition and install Gentoo from the old install. You could also try to make Grub boot into an ISO in your /boot partition. If you don't have access to the VGA output, you could try to find a ISO that starts an SSH server automatically and lets you set the password via the kernel cmdline. Kind regards, tastytea
[gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this?
[gentoo-user] gentoo for a virtual server in the cloud?
I rent a low-cost virtual server in the cloud. The platform offers me some choices in linux distributions, but I'm wondering if I can compile gentoo to run on it. Anybody have experience doing this?
[gentoo-user] Re: Google and "fetchmail" + "ssmtp"
Nikos, On Thursday, 2022-03-17 19:04:04 +0200, you wrote: > ... > I don't use fetchmail (just an email client), but fetchmail 7 apparently > supports oauth2. It's masked in portage because it's still alpha > (net-mail/fetchmail-7.0.0_alpha9-r1). > > And then read: > > http://mmogilvi.users.sourceforge.net/software/oauthbearer.html > > Which also seems to contain Gentoo instructions. Apparently, you don't > need to apply the patches for fetchmail 6 if you instead unmask and > emerge the 7.0.0 alpha version. Really interesting reading. Thanks for the pointer. And also thanks to the other responders. Sincerely, Rainer
[gentoo-user] wifi networks not seen by networkmanager
Yesterday after updating my work laptop, Networkmanager is not seeing my employer wifi network anymore. Luckily, there is another wifi network for guests that I am using. Has somebody seen a similar problem? My list of updates: Thu Mar 17 09:14:03 2022 >>> dev-libs/openssl-1.1.1n Thu Mar 17 09:14:10 2022 >>> x11-base/xorg-proto-2021.5 Thu Mar 17 09:14:49 2022 >>> sys-auth/elogind-246.10-r2 Thu Mar 17 09:15:34 2022 >>> dev-db/sqlite-3.38.1 Thu Mar 17 09:15:49 2022 >>> x11-libs/pixman-0.40.0 Thu Mar 17 09:15:59 2022 >>> dev-libs/fribidi-1.0.11 Thu Mar 17 09:16:06 2022 >>> dev-util/wayland-scanner-1.20.0 Thu Mar 17 09:17:21 2022 >>> dev-lang/python-3.10.3 Thu Mar 17 09:18:34 2022 >>> dev-lang/python-3.9.11 Thu Mar 17 09:18:41 2022 >>> dev-libs/wayland-1.20.0 Thu Mar 17 09:18:47 2022 >>> dev-libs/wayland-protocols-1.25 Thu Mar 17 09:19:00 2022 >>> media-libs/libglvnd-1.4.0 Thu Mar 17 09:19:11 2022 >>> x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.110 Thu Mar 17 09:19:22 2022 >>> x11-libs/libxkbcommon-1.4.0 Thu Mar 17 09:20:01 2022 >>> sys-fs/udev-249.9 Thu Mar 17 09:23:24 2022 >>> media-libs/mesa-22.0.0 Thu Mar 17 09:23:38 2022 >>> media-libs/libepoxy-1.5.9-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:24:18 2022 >>> dev-libs/glib-2.70.4 Thu Mar 17 09:24:26 2022 >>> x11-misc/shared-mime-info-2.1 Thu Mar 17 09:24:32 2022 >>> dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.26-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:25:01 2022 >>> dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.70.0 Thu Mar 17 09:25:18 2022 >>> x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.42.6-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:26:09 2022 >>> media-libs/harfbuzz-4.0.1 Thu Mar 17 09:26:19 2022 >>> dev-libs/atk-2.36.0 Thu Mar 17 09:26:30 2022 >>> app-accessibility/at-spi2-core-2.42.0 Thu Mar 17 09:26:51 2022 >>> x11-libs/pango-1.50.5 Thu Mar 17 09:26:58 2022 >>> dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.24.31 Thu Mar 17 09:27:06 2022 >>> app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.38.0 Thu Mar 17 09:27:13 2022 >>> dev-libs/libevdev-1.12.0 Thu Mar 17 09:27:20 2022 >>> net-misc/iputils-20210722-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:27:53 2022 >>> sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-249.9 Thu Mar 17 09:28:22 2022 >>> media-libs/gstreamer-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:28:31 2022 >>> dev-lang/orc-0.4.31 Thu Mar 17 09:28:46 2022 >>> dev-libs/libsigc++-2.10.7 Thu Mar 17 09:28:54 2022 >>> dev-libs/libgudev-237-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:29:01 2022 >>> gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-41.0 Thu Mar 17 09:29:09 2022 >>> x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-2.35.1 Thu Mar 17 09:29:23 2022 >>> dev-libs/libuv-1.44.1 Thu Mar 17 09:29:34 2022 >>> dev-libs/json-glib-1.6.6-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:29:40 2022 >>> x11-libs/libxcvt-0.1.1 Thu Mar 17 09:29:48 2022 >>> dev-libs/jsoncpp-1.9.5 Thu Mar 17 09:30:09 2022 >>> net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-2.10-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:30:15 2022 >>> gui-libs/libwpe-1.12.0 Thu Mar 17 09:30:23 2022 >>> sys-apps/bubblewrap-0.6.1 Thu Mar 17 09:30:33 2022 >>> media-libs/graphene-1.10.6-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:31:02 2022 >>> media-libs/dav1d-0.9.2 Thu Mar 17 09:31:11 2022 >>> sys-fs/fuse-3.10.5 Thu Mar 17 09:31:45 2022 >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.16.15 Thu Mar 17 09:31:51 2022 >>> app-misc/wayland-utils-1.0.0 Thu Mar 17 09:33:00 2022 >>> dev-lang/python-3.8.13 Thu Mar 17 09:33:11 2022 >>> dev-libs/libinput-1.20.0 Thu Mar 17 09:33:22 2022 >>> gnome-base/dconf-0.40.0 Thu Mar 17 09:33:33 2022 >>> media-libs/glu-9.0.2 Thu Mar 17 09:34:24 2022 >>> media-libs/gst-plugins-base-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:35:30 2022 >>> dev-cpp/glibmm-2.66.2 Thu Mar 17 09:35:39 2022 >>> dev-cpp/cairomm-1.14.3 Thu Mar 17 09:35:48 2022 >>> dev-util/gtk-doc-1.33.2 Thu Mar 17 09:36:22 2022 >>> x11-base/xwayland-22.1.0 Thu Mar 17 09:36:32 2022 >>> gui-libs/wpebackend-fdo-1.12.0 Thu Mar 17 09:36:46 2022 >>> gnome-base/gnome-desktop-41.3 Thu Mar 17 09:36:55 2022 >>> x11-libs/libva-2.14.0 Thu Mar 17 09:37:36 2022 >>> media-libs/gst-plugins-good-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:37:46 2022 >>> media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:38:34 2022 >>> media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:39:26 2022 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-21.1.3-r1 Thu Mar 17 09:40:06 2022 >>> net-misc/openssh-8.9_p1-r2 Thu Mar 17 09:40:21 2022 >>> dev-cpp/atkmm-2.28.2 Thu Mar 17 09:40:36 2022 >>> dev-cpp/pangomm-2.46.2 Thu Mar 17 09:40:52 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:41:21 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-opus-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:41:28 2022 >>> net-fs/sshfs-3.7.1 Thu Mar 17 09:41:36 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:41:46 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:41:57 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-dts-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:42:06 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:42:17 2022 >>> media-plugins/gst-plugins-resindvd-1.20.1 Thu Mar 17 09:42:27 2022
