[gentoo-user] Re: mailing list problem: changing subscription type
(Replying as listowner, but I'm also on the nomail version of gentoo-user, please CC to gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org or to me directly for most mail) On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 07:35:20AM +0530, Madhu wrote: > I had subscribed to gentoo-user on 2022-05-25, and posted a message on > that date. > > I then wished to change my subscription to no-mail delivery. The > instructions I received after sending a message to > gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org indicated I could do this by sending > a message to gentoo-user+subscribe-nom...@lists.gentoo.org, which I > did. and I got a response saying > > "Thank you for confirming your subscription. You have now been added to the > no-mail version of the list." > > However the email address is still receiving messages from the > list. Apparently my email is subscribed on two lists - the mail > version and the non-mail version, and there doesn't seem to be any way > to unsubscribe only from the mail-version while remaining on the > latter. ... > Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the > the list while not receiving copies in the mail? I don't see any requests to unsubscribe from the regular version of the list. The regular/digest/nomail subscriptions are entirely independent. Just subscribing to the nomail version of the list does not impact your other subscriptions at all. Did some part of the documentation make you think it would impact the subscription? Regardless, how do you feel the documentation could improve to make it clear that they are separate. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] mailing list problem: changing subscription type
I had subscribed to gentoo-user on 2022-05-25, and posted a message on that date. I then wished to change my subscription to no-mail delivery. The instructions I received after sending a message to gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org indicated I could do this by sending a message to gentoo-user+subscribe-nom...@lists.gentoo.org, which I did. and I got a response saying "Thank you for confirming your subscription. You have now been added to the no-mail version of the list." However the email address is still receiving messages from the list. Apparently my email is subscribed on two lists - the mail version and the non-mail version, and there doesn't seem to be any way to unsubscribe only from the mail-version while remaining on the latter. I wanted to mention this as a possible problem with the mailing list software. Could I request the list owner to make sure I remain subscribed to the the list while not receiving copies in the mail? Thanks ---Madhu
Re: [gentoo-user] Change in sudoers format?
Thanks for the comments everybody. I'll let etc-update do its thing. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:48 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 29 May 2022 21:49:21 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked > > ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would > > lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?) > > Why not export the bookmarks then re-import them? That way you can start > with a clean config. > I don't know how to do that (I'm talking about several itens in the bookmarks bar, not a single menu with several links). But I'll try a clean config anyway, the bookmark issue can be dealt with later.
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:47 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > New Hope! I've found this: > https://btechgeeks.com/change-chrome-keyboard-shortcuts/ > It seems that the "Shortcut manager" extension doesn't exist any more. It was supposed to allow editing the "default" shortcuts, something most pages say it's not possible.
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, 29 May 2022 21:49:21 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > I've been using google-chrome, mainly because I assume, maybe wrongly, > that it means less hassle regarding codecs and such. But I'm out of > patience regarding the undocumented, uncustomizable, obnoxious, > invasive keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures. So, I decided to try > chromium (-bin, for now), in the hope that it would be more > user-respectful. > Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked > ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would > lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?) Why not export the bookmarks then re-import them? That way you can start with a clean config. -- Neil Bothwick Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: The location of all objects cannot be known simultaneously. Corollary: If a lost thing is found, something else will disappear. pgpei36AWdtNr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 22:39:17 Jorge Almeida napisał(a): > I suppose this means I can't simply remove the shortcuts from > chromium... () > New Hope! I've found this: https://btechgeeks.com/change-chrome-keyboard-shortcuts/ - -- xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYpPpxQAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q34kAP4z7jwbhctdRREivmA0IRrhSMD8icZ0IUKcBosLPIzAhwD+OIqAAcLy5q7C 6NpUULwLaaVJdmbHZ9aObYRVxCKFGN4= =rlGV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:33 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 22:25:53 > Jorge Almeida napisał(a): > > > On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > > > > Maybe take a look here: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications#Web_browsers > Not all of them have ebuilds, but most of them do. > I hope you'll find something that suits your needs :) > I suppose this means I can't simply remove the shortcuts from chromium... ()
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 22:25:53 Jorge Almeida napisał(a): > On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > > > If non-free software is not of any concern for you, then maybe try > > Vivaldi browser? It is based on the same engine and feels quite like > > chromium but with many many more options (USE=widevine for netflix > > ;) ) > I have no concerns regarding licensing et al., but I once tried > Vivaldi and was not impressed (I don't remember why). I'm into chrom* > only because it provides a smooth experience re youtube & gmail. I > don't think other browsers can do it, but I wouldn't mind being wrong. > > BTW: chromium also has a "widevine" flag. I don't know how much time > does it take to compile chromium nowadays, but I don't have netflix > anyway :( > Maybe take a look here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_of_applications#Web_browsers Not all of them have ebuilds, but most of them do. I hope you'll find something that suits your needs :) - -- xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYpPmewAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q+PrAP4zdUkrvXW0DFDKt1BphdOFnr5Qld9n35JfC8FauGAfFQD9F6EhhhoU60/N Rur1v+alb5408KMsgMIHKOj1SCtpt9E= =agXf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 10:16 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > If non-free software is not of any concern for you, then maybe try > Vivaldi browser? It is based on the same engine and feels quite like > chromium but with many many more options (USE=widevine for netflix ;) ) > I have no concerns regarding licensing et al., but I once tried Vivaldi and was not impressed (I don't remember why). I'm into chrom* only because it provides a smooth experience re youtube & gmail. I don't think other browsers can do it, but I wouldn't mind being wrong. BTW: chromium also has a "widevine" flag. I don't know how much time does it take to compile chromium nowadays, but I don't have netflix anyway :(
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
If non-free software is not of any concern for you, then maybe try Vivaldi browser? It is based on the same engine and feels quite like chromium but with many many more options (USE=widevine for netflix ;) ) -- xWK
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 9:56 PM w...@op.pl wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 21:49:21 > Jorge Almeida napisał(a): > > > So, is there a way to get rid of this, ahem, stuff? Ideally, I would > > remove/edit some shortcuts, but I would settle for trashing it all. Is > > this an unwinnable fight? (And is the dichotomy chromium-chrome > > relevant at all?) > > > > Jorge Almeida > > > > I'm not sure, but as far as I know the differences between > google-chrome and chromium are more about "the amount of Google" in the > browser not the overall idea behind it (so probably shortcuts will be > the same). > I suppose... I just hoped that the refuse to allow users any freedom would be part of that "amount of Google"...
Re: [gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 21:49:21 Jorge Almeida napisał(a): > So, is there a way to get rid of this, ahem, stuff? Ideally, I would > remove/edit some shortcuts, but I would settle for trashing it all. Is > this an unwinnable fight? (And is the dichotomy chromium-chrome > relevant at all?) > > Jorge Almeida > I'm not sure, but as far as I know the differences between google-chrome and chromium are more about "the amount of Google" in the browser not the overall idea behind it (so probably shortcuts will be the same). - -- xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYpPd8QAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q05vAPwNwKx2HEtNhCM5Yg4q1WI87EMBAJ7Tc8Ep9dwlxEesXAD/SWJiCaCj8zdh tXnk/3ngseCt0mptrBHS5Qz/4Tn8Vi4= =wLQB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] chromium shortcuts?
I've been using google-chrome, mainly because I assume, maybe wrongly, that it means less hassle regarding codecs and such. But I'm out of patience regarding the undocumented, uncustomizable, obnoxious, invasive keyboard shortcuts/mouse gestures. So, I decided to try chromium (-bin, for now), in the hope that it would be more user-respectful. Until now, no improvement. (Note that I symlinked ~/.config/chromium-bin to ~/.config/google-chrome, otherwise I would lose all bookmarks. Maybe it was a bad idea?) So, is there a way to get rid of this, ahem, stuff? Ideally, I would remove/edit some shortcuts, but I would settle for trashing it all. Is this an unwinnable fight? (And is the dichotomy chromium-chrome relevant at all?) Jorge Almeida
Re: [gentoo-user] Change in sudoers format?
On 5/29/22 9:48 AM, w...@op.pl wrote: User xyz can exacute command D on host A as user B in group C ... is just a matter of consistency ;) The group that a command is run as starts to become much more germane when you are using sudo to run commands as a different non-root user. E.g. if you want to run commands as the Oracle user to manage things about a database. In some ways this is somewhat akin to setting the GID bit on a directory so that newly created files inherit the group of the directory. At least insofar as the type of situation that would necessitate the use of this feature. -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: [gentoo-user] Change in sudoers format?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dnia 2022-05-29, o godz. 14:47:12 Peter Humphrey napisał(a): > On Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:54:50 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > > I just ran an update and noticed that etc-update wants to change > > the layout of /etc/sudoers, specifically... > > > > > ## > > > > ## > > ## User privilege specification > > ## > > -root ALL=(ALL) ALL > > +root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > ## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command > > -# %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL > > +# %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > ## Same thing without a password > > -# %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > > +# %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > > > > ## Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to execute any command > > -# %sudoALL=(ALL) ALL > > +# %sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > > > ## Uncomment to allow any user to run sudo if they know the > > password ## of the user they are running the command as (root by > > default). # Defaults targetpw # Ask for the password of the target > > user -# ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING: only use this together with > > 'Defaults targetpw' +# ALL ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # WARNING: only use > > this together with 'Defaults targetpw' > > > > > ## > > > > ...and similar changes for /etc/sudoers.dist. What is this about, > > and should I go ahead? > > I did it without thinking about it, and nothing untoward has > befallen. Yet. > After reading 'man sudoers' (especially the 'examples' part) I see there's a slight difference between (although in case of gaining root privileges it is only a matter of aesthetics): Line: xyz A=(B:C) D means: User xyz can exacute command D on host A as user B in group C Therefore changing: rootALL=(ALL) ALL to rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL is just a matter of consistency ;) - xWK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTD0rOlRXTVQVPxHd4dqSXVhOqGqwUCYpOVxQAKCRAdqSXVhOqG q9EsAP9qXwy8RqzEqsLU8AhGjS7Ab5ehN/2IFRrXWZHnmSIwxgD/WyL/k9RgzkB+ fn8y3fOQzgd8jyJkBoSA3rTAqv4+GtE= =G2UQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Change in sudoers format?
On Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:54:50 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > I just ran an update and noticed that etc-update wants to change the > layout of /etc/sudoers, specifically... > > ## > > ## > ## User privilege specification > ## > -root ALL=(ALL) ALL > +root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > ## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command > -# %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL > +# %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > ## Same thing without a password > -# %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > +# %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > > ## Uncomment to allow members of group sudo to execute any command > -# %sudoALL=(ALL) ALL > +# %sudoALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > ## Uncomment to allow any user to run sudo if they know the password > ## of the user they are running the command as (root by default). > # Defaults targetpw # Ask for the password of the target user > -# ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING: only use this together with 'Defaults > targetpw' +# ALL ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # WARNING: only use this together with > 'Defaults targetpw' > > ## > > ...and similar changes for /etc/sudoers.dist. What is this about, and > should I go ahead? I did it without thinking about it, and nothing untoward has befallen. Yet. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Change in sudoers format?
On Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:54:50 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > I just ran an update and noticed that etc-update wants to change the > layout of /etc/sudoers, specifically... > > ## > > ## > ## User privilege specification > ## > -root ALL=(ALL) ALL > +root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL [snip ...] > ...and similar changes for /etc/sudoers.dist. What is this about, and > should I go ahead? I can't recall how long ago the syntax changed to this format. I'm currently running 'app-admin/sudo1.9.10-r1' and it works as it should using the new syntax. Therefore I would think you can go ahead with accepting this change. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
