Re: [gentoo-user] Python 3.5

2017-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
r it. Maybe the user wants to use some nifty new package or take advantage of new features in python-3.5. This is the thing R0b0t1 was referring to. In that case, the user must do for himself what the profile maintainers do for you. That user also gets to keep all the shiny broken bits whilst figuring out what to set for what -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] A portage nuisance

2017-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/10/2017 22:39, Anthony Youngman wrote: > On 28/10/17 20:54, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Portage cannot do that, it is backed by silicon and has no concept of >> meaning. So it has only one real choice - it can do it all or it does >> not try. >> >> I'm not surpr

Re: [gentoo-user] bounces

2017-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
Any special reason why you did not post the bounce message complete with > all headers? > > Because if answers are to be had, that is where they will be. > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckin...@gmail.com <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] A portage nuisance

2017-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
u* know what you want and can do it, *you* are a human with a brain who understands meaning. Portage cannot do that, it is backed by silicon and has no concept of meaning. So it has only one real choice - it can do it all or it does not try. I'm not surprised Zac never tried implementing partial graph resolution for the very simple reason that if you try do it, you have no idea what is going to be built. That is the opposite of what portage must deliver. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] bounces

2017-10-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
Because if answers are to be had, that is where they will be. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] A portage nuisance

2017-10-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
hat any output from portage if it did continue would be vastly more confusing to users than what it does now. The reason you know so much more than portage about these dependencies is that you have a brain and comprehend meaning. Portage has silicon and no clue about meaning of anyything -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Everyone wants util linux...but different versions en mass

2017-10-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
. It looks like portage normal info output, where portage assumes everyone really does want -vvv It' not telling you it needs all those versions, it's telling you why you need util-linux. Then it list (verbosely) all the packages that pull it in, and helpfully adds the full selection criteria for everything direct from the ebuild. Your real blocker is above that verbose stuff in lines having "B" between the [] at the left column -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; Hi Joost, > > thanks for your help. > > Does "dedicated browser" means "Firefox -NewInstance -P Facebookprofle" or > does it mean "another browser than the installed firefox" ? The latter. Unless you are seriously paranoid and the NSA really is out to get you, then use the former and more. But in that case you have much bigger problems than wondering if the spammers will find you from facebook -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: monit and friends.

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/10/2017 18:10, Ralph Seichter wrote: > On 16.10.2017 17:50, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Nagios and I go way back, way way waay back. I now recommend it >> never be used unless there really is no other option. > > Have you tried Icinga 2 (*) yet? It originally

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: monit and friends.

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/10/2017 17:41, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 16 October 2017 16:12:53 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/10/2017 17:08, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >>> On 2017-10-16 14:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> My needs here are pretty simple: >>>> local watchdog that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: monit and friends.

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/10/2017 17:08, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-10-16 14:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> My needs here are pretty simple: >> local watchdog that checks if a program is running and restart it if >> not. If that fails 3 times or so, alert me. >> Maybe a few

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/10/2017 14:29, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:14:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I don't think the trustees can argue that claim anymore. Larry hasn't >> been around for years on gentoo web sites (znort is still to be found >> hovering at the bot

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/10/2017 14:29, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/16/2017 08:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had >> Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-) >> > > Short for Loretta? > Nah, Larry was always a he -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
ry hasn't been around for years on gentoo web sites (znort is still to be found hovering at the bottom of wiki pages though!). Trademarks go away in law if you don't protect them. And it was never Larry the Cow either, gentoo had Larry the Gender-Confused Cow :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] monit and friends.

2017-10-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
for that. And mostly don't even need it's http API either. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] emerge default opts

2017-10-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
t confirms that it's harder than it looks. Checking for > nonexistent flags would be easier than checking for redundant flags > because the latter depends on your package manager configuration. > There is a suitable tool. It's called grep, copious use of. A suitably complex solution for the complexity of the problem! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sddm-0.16.0 does not work with plain openrc

2017-10-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/10/2017 11:02, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 10/14/2017 05:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Hi >> >> A quick heads-up to anyone who like me uses sddm on a plain openrc box >> with USE="-elogind -systemd" and upgrades to sddm-0.16.0 (recently released)

Re: [gentoo-user] sddm-0.16.0 does not work with plain openrc

2017-10-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/10/2017 11:08, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > > On 15 October 2017 at 10:32, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 14/10/2017 11:55, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > On 14 October 2017 at 08:37, Al

Re: [gentoo-user] sddm-0.16.0 does not work with plain openrc

2017-10-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/10/2017 11:55, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On 14 October 2017 at 08:37, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > A quick heads-up to anyone who like me uses sddm on a plain openrc box > with USE="-elogind -syst

[gentoo-user] sddm-0.16.0 does not work with plain openrc

2017-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
.. nothing. No sddm, No X-Server. Very confusing, took me a while to solve. Masking sddm-0.16.0 and downgrading back to sddm-0.15.0 restores functionality. More info and the Gentoo bug report: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633920 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: FreeBSD migration, what to do with /usr/local

2017-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
test staging machines. But I have fleets of spare hypervisors at my disposal, you might not have that. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] eth over usb

2017-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
your gentoo system. Almost any other method really just comes down to firing in the dark and hoping you might hit something. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Block multiple IP addresses; iptables or route...reject?

2017-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
yourself a spare machine, load pfsense on it (it's an appliance like wrt) and drop the traffic from all offensive addresses. Drop, not reject. You could in theory do the same thing with iptables, but the ruleset will quickly drive you nuts. Perhaps the ipset plugin would help, I've been meaning to check it out for ages and never got around to it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ARCH is not set

2017-09-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
etc/portage/make.profile' is > > # ls -l /etc/portage/make.profile > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 59 7  13 2016 /etc/portage/make.profile -> > ../../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop > > any suggestions? > > > Does /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/a

Re: [gentoo-user] Fail2Ban vs SSHGuard? Comparison? What's the difference?

2017-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/09/2017 23:25, Stroller wrote: > >> On 16 Sep 2017, at 20:31, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> As far as I'm aware (and could be wrong), sshguard is mostly just sshd >> whereas fail2ban works on anything you can give it consistent l

Re: [gentoo-user] scary (?) situation with binutils

2017-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
(and > # switch the compiler / the binutils) ASAP. If you need them for a specific > # (isolated) use case, feel free to unmask them on your system. > =sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1 > > NOTE: The --autounmask-keep-masks option will prevent emerge > from creating package.unmask or ** keyword changes. > > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No] > > I said no since I don't want to unmask, but am not sure how to proceed > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > allan > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Fail2Ban vs SSHGuard? Comparison? What's the difference?

2017-09-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
jumps out as a clear winner than you understand easily, then that is the one you use. The question is almost never "does this things do what I want?" as the answer is so often yes. The question is always "d I understand this thing as can drive it easily?" -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] thin-provisioning-tools - but I don't provision anything!!!!!

2017-09-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
without actually using it until you put real data in. So a say 50G volume that is empty will consume no disk space (or maybe a few K in overhead). Sort of like sparse files for entire volumes. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glibc prevented by emerge/portage...but why initiated?

2017-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
fer As a last resort if the ebuld maintainer screwed up, you can bypass the safety check. Edit ${PORTDIR}/eclass/toolchain-glibc.eclass and comment out the check in toolchain-glibc_pkg_pretend() This is unlikely to destroy the system. Cause a problem - maybe. Destroy it? No. The wording of the safety check is hugely over-dramatic to discourage people from downgrading willy-nilly without thinking -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem

2017-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
sysadmins don't know this is a rather brutal indictement of your sysadmins... In connman one often has delete and re-create connections as it often happens there isn't an Edit button in connman applets! But not in NetworkManager: right click -> Config -> Edit -> Save always does the trick if you click the right buttons in the Edit step -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
work is in thinking and planning what you want to achieve. You have to have a very clear picture of the end goal so you can build towards it; this part is exactly like thinking your way through code you intend to write. This part depends on how complex your stuff is and how many exceptions you have to the rule. You're the only one that knows if the result will be worth while, so like all new toys I suppose the best approach is to tinker with it a bit, see if you like it, then decide if you think it worthwhile to proceed. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
catering for inevitable differences is trivial to handle. With none of the downsides to copying entire tree structures around (like copying way too many files you didn't intend to. Like /var/run...) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ment of a fleet of machines that may or may not be around when you feel like updating something (so it catches up later), and needs only sshd and python to do it's magic :-) Never mind that ansible was written with servers in mind; in terms of management where you do $STUFF_THAT_NEEDS_MANAGING, there is no difference between servers and laptops. A computer is still just a computer. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
s: > > http://gitolite.com/gitolite/ > Thanks, I'll give that a try too. I think gitlolite might even be too heavy - push/pull/nothing permissions as per Simon's links sounds good -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/09/2017 17:20, Simon Thelen wrote: > On 17-09-04 at 17:05, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I fear I have a severe case of too many trees in the way to see the forest. >> >> I have a git server, it only runs git. >> All the sysadmins have full acces

[gentoo-user] Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
in GitHub and Gitlab... I know, my Google-fu sucks today. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
", and remove all ruby versions from world and let depclean, revdep-rebuild and emerge world take care of the details. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2017 13:25, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we >> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it m

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 21:30, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> PS. Did I mention you would have to do all of the above using a dial-up >> modem, >> which would require off-tree modules, because your PC came with a W

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:47, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 22:20, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> |it's not so hard yet, just hard to get by reading it in advance, doing >>> >>> it is fairly st

Re: [gentoo-user] Why isn't this SDcard mounting?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
hought SD Cards were treated like regular hotpluggable devices like USB storage, but maybe not. I'd be interested to see the results of running partprobe. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 15:57, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock >> jump around. Every second on the wall clock actually happe

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
it. [1] virtual machines are a whole different topic. I'm assuming you don't have Gentoo in a guest VM. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
street cred brownie points is what you are after, that's how you get 'em! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
cer curse syndrome -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2017 18:47, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steepe

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
and an MUA etc etc etc. But that's just a guess, could also be anywhere from 1 hour on the low end to 24 on the high end. Or more. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/08/2017 09:21, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:12:52 PM CEST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: >>>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>>&

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: >>>> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>>>> On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon >> <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thunderbird. >>> >>> I have no formatting or storage problems as local mail is kept i

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
ve very fond memories of kmail with KDE-3, best MUA I ever used. The rest of KDE's look and feel was pretty sucky tbh, and KDE-4 made huge inroads to fixing that, but kdepim and kmail never recovered from that thing called akonadi. Good idea on paper, never worked in practice. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
from Seamonkey to whatever new program I'm using. When I > switched from Kmail, I was able to do that, can't recall how now. > > Just curious as to my options here. May as well learn some stuff while > we on the topic. ;-) Thunderbird. I have no formatting or storage problems as

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Calculating power consumption of a running program?

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
owerTOP and found > it to be reasonably accurate? No not this. PowerTOP was designed to find badly-behaving programs like pidgin that woke up and polled it's queue every 1ms or so. It's not for what you want at all, not even close. > > R0b0t1. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/08/2017 21:26, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 23/08/2017 09:03, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>> You (Dale) seem to have corrected the multipart/alternative problem, except >>> one message (Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: downgrading glibc) where >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
he HTML thing now. We all have high speed internet these days, you can't buy a spinning drive smaller than 1TB anymore and apart from a few holdfasts like decent Mailman lists (eg this one and kernel.org), email is a thing that idiots at work use like it was IM. Most other folks moved on... -- Ala

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2017 17:41, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 22/08/2017 15:01, Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I have this set to send text only for gentoo.org and kde.org. Someone >>> replied making me think it is not doing as instructed, even tho

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
ould? Text only I hope. I see 3 problems with your mail, but content-type is not one of them :-) That is set to text only, exactly as you intended -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 4.12.5 hard lockups, nothing in logs.

2017-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
er as 4.11 still works for me. My external monitors and USB keyboard & mouse on laptops stopped working with 4.12 and other silliness which I forget. My techie spidey-sense is telling me it all smells a lot like someone tidied up .config and things moved around, so make oldconfig got confused. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40

2017-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
day, try again. Repeat. It can take a sort wait between a change to the kernel and when the virtualbox fellows notice the change and fix it. nvidia drivers and most other out-of-tree drivers are all in the same boat. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

2017-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
fs merging but it's probably easier to use a medium that already has everything you want -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2017 08:35, John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2017 00:06:08 -0400, > Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> On 2017-07-29 11:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On 29/07/2017 10:51, John Covici wrote: >>>> Hi. In my latest world update, portage wants to in

Re: [gentoo-user] Issues updating world on new install (gmp symptom)

2017-08-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
-O2 -pipe" CPPFLAGS="" CXX="x86_64-pc-linux-gnux32-g++" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" MPN_PATH=" x86_64/k8 x86_64 generic" emerge output above says ABI_X86="x32" is switched OFF. You need to switch it on. ABI_X86 config is covered in detail at wiki.gentoo.org. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium 60 build failure

2017-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
> out which version of GCC one is "expected to be on"? > Any version of gcc that is at least version 5 . ? So if you use say version 4 then you are not using an expected version If you use version eleventy one then you are -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing unnecessary software.

2017-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
age doesn't have mixins (that's how you'd best implement user-selectable @systems), and one of them is for certain - no dev has had that itch bad enough yet to want to scratch it. And maybe they just don't feel like dealing with the deluge of complaints and NOTABUGs reported as bugs. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 17:25, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 17:11:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Backup the postgres configs and database files, emerge -C all postgres >> versions, make sure there are no files left with postgres in the name, >> and emerge the version back tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com > <mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gm

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com > <mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gm

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
to start: Don't use kmail Seriously, why are putting up with the pain that POS is causing you? You've been posting about serious kmail and akonadi issues for about 4 years now if memory serves, and it has never gotten better. It probably never will :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
It doesn't run it or set it as default, it only installs it. To run it or set it as default is an extra step that you decide yourself when you want to do it. depcleaning 9.5 removes the default version, so the obvious thing for the code to do is set 9.6 as the new default. Maybe the ebuild does it, maybe it's eselect. Doesn't matter, because something should have removed those stale symlinks and didn't. This is a reportable bug Meanwhile fix the symlinks to what they should be using "ln -sfn" and all will be good in the world. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
eciated. [snip] > pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: The 'sphinxcontrib-websupport' > distribution was not found and is required by Sphinx [snip] > * The specific snippet of code: > * sphinx-build -b html -c docs/source/ docs/source/ > docs/source/build/html || die; File a bug at bgo -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
veloper guidelines for Debian and start reading. > I guess that's why "autoconf" "configure" et al exists... But never > tried to learn about them, so perhaps it's time now? No, that's not what those tools are for. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] We have had known workarounds for python:3 and icu in uclibc-ng for a few months but they havent yet been implemented

2017-07-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
this ought to be > enough. > > export > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${WORKDIR}/icu/source-*/lib:${WORKDIR}/icu/source-*/stubdata > > Both these options wrapped under a if elibc=uclibc-ng obviously. file a bug report at bugs.gentoo.org bug wranglers will ensure it gets to the right people -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to remove a package from a profile?

2017-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
lled "packages", look at this example from prefix: $ cat ./prefix/linux/packages # Here we remove packages that default/linux/packages pulls in and have # no business being in Gentoo Prefix -*sys-apps/busybox -*sys-apps/util-linux -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copy'n'Paste...but not for all?

2017-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
; > Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-C#In_graphical_environments > > hehe, as I clicked on that link, I thought "I bet the Star workstation did that first (like most everything else)" I see I wasn't wrong. Thanks for that Nikos, you made my day1 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copy'n'Paste...but not for all?

2017-06-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
MS Windows. > > Selecting text and then pasting using the middle mouse button doesn't work. > > It seems these are two different clipboards. They are indeed two very different clipboards. Select and paste with middle button is X cut buffers, been around for years. Any app running on the same X server should be able to do the right thing with it. CtrlC/CtrlV is a whole different animal, and that's the one VirtualBox/VMWare et al support. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is PS1 (the console prompt) different for the root user?

2017-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
you and the question you ask :-) Feel free to edit PS1 to be anything you want it to be. The prompt is, after all, purely a convenience to make a human's life easier. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
ll day and all night. More like 5 minutes. Less than 1 if you know how to use an editor, for, cat, rm and/or xargs. Or you could use Ubuntu. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
;> >> >> Sounds like it installs kernel modules, so yes, after a new kernel build >> you need to re-emerge all packages that install modules. Easiest way to >> emerge all packages that install kernel modules is: >> >> `emerge -a @module-rebuild` >> >> Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/05/2017 22:04, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 30/04/2017 03:11, lee wrote: >>> "Poison BL." <poiso...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee <l...@yag

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2017 09:37, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On May 11, 2017 11:20:49 AM GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 11/05/2017 02:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Wednesday 10 May 2017 23:33:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/05/2017 02:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 10 May 2017 23:33:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I you read -dev, you could have replied to the original with a correct >> fix :-) > > No good. I can't read C. I gave up in the '80s and reverted to assembler. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Risks of making traceroute suid root

2017-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
let you give them that permission, deftly avoiding questions as to the vuln status of the traceroute binary -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
egally valid for purposes of government with equal status, I had to let go of English bias and accept that languages get mangled. All the time. Except for this new meaning for "revert". can't bring myself to accept that one, too much like gouging out eyeballs with a blunt spoon. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to use logcheck

2017-05-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
anyone succeeded in running logcheck? What's the magic recipe? I see > that app-admin/logcheck is maintainer-wanted, so there's no point in raising > a bug report. > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Security_Handbook/Logging > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Receiving syslog entries over network with systemd

2017-05-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
> syslog-ng > gave up. I was able to start it manually after boot though. > You might need to tweak your startup order in conf.d a syslogger normally starts very early in the boot process, before even networking so that it can log network-y errors. A remote syslogger needs to start after networking. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: htop wants cgroups

2017-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ot; and "may", it does not contain "must" and "will" Continuing to emote here is going to accomplish exactly didly-squat and I assure you that it is highly likely nothing will change at all. Submitting a patch to gentoo-dev may accomplish the end you seek. Now, can you please get over yourself so we can move on? We get it, we really do. You don't like the message. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
BI_X86="64 > -32 -x32") > Startseite: http://www.gtkmm.org > Beschreibung: C++ interface for glib2 > > > 2.50.1(2) appears to be installed but is not available. > > it was available you installed it then it went out of portage you still have it installed portage has yet to find a good reason to upgrade/remove/touch it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/04/2017 03:11, lee wrote: > "Poison BL." <poiso...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: >> >>> Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Tuesday 25

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
ftp? Or, put another way, why do you feel you need to use something else? There's always dropbox -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to depclean my xorg video driver

2017-04-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Meta package containing deps on all xorg drivers > > > Cheers. > The ebuild's DEPEND: video_cards_i915? ( x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel ) video_cards_i965? ( >=x11-base/xorg-server-${PV}[glamor] ) video_cards_intel? ( !video_cards_i965? ( x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel ) ) So remove i965 from VIDEO_CARDS. "intel" will suffice. Do you have xorg-server built with USE=glamor ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

2017-04-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/04/2017 21:22, R0b0t1 wrote: And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring to is Plasma 5. yes you are completely correct. But old habits die hard, and for me KDE has always been KDE- :-) I blame it on an old brain where most of the neurons stopped working

Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

2017-04-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
ion that mattered was not being able to repeatedly split panes in half vertically or horizontally; Dolphin gives you just two panes, side by side. So I started opening more tabs to get more panes :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Where is gmplayer?

2017-04-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
gram are you looking for? > > It is mentioned in "man mplayer". It's the graphical user > inferface. I thought that particular binary was abandoned *years* ago by mplayer - it was unmaintained? Looks like cruft is left in the man page -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kioslaves - an end of an era?

2017-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
te I had to remove manually kde-misc/kio-ftps because it was > holding on to the old konqueror:4. Does this mean KDE kioslaves are of no > use > anymore? > I believe the new kioslave-like functionality has been replaced with kde-frameworks/kio kde-apps/kio-extras -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] mysql-workbench

2017-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
iro-1.10:=[X] required by > (net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200:2/2::gentoo, installed) > > > Is there a good way to get mysql-workbench installed without removing > the other packages? Find what you are installing exactly then take it from there -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] trusting perl-cleaner

2017-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
ecide what to d on a case by case basis. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gkrellm [Was: Something eats my memory - please help]

2017-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
ave mentioned that. Perhaps I assumed that everyone who uses > gkrellm also uses its themes. Mea culpa. > heh. I have all the themes installed and never used them :-) I try various ones out from time to time and always go back to the default... -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
and I use them all the time when troubleshooting. But not for regular use - nothing beats flicking my eye over to the left edge and looking for biggish blobs of cyan and amber :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
though. Lilac just ain't my hting -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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