Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
I built a kernel with radeon :-) The intel gpu manages full HD video and funky plasma5 effects just fine at a fraction of the battery usage of the radeon. These days I ask myself: if I'm not gaming at insane frame rates, or using cuda, then why do I need the radeon power at all? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't update to go-1.4.2

2015-09-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
ich in your case is ... 32 bit Reinstall. A 32 bit to 64 bit migration may or may not be possible (I never attempted it) but one thing is sure, it will not be easy. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/notmpfs - does not exist

2015-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
mpfs, it defaults to half available RAM. That doesn't mean it takes up that much RAM (it's not a ramdisk), it uses up to that maximum if it is available. It's backed by swap and the kernel does it's usual memory management magic to keep everything ticking along. There's probably less than 10 packages i

Re: [gentoo-user] poppler-0.32.0 - error

2015-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
ot;bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk > hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="pr! > esenter-co > nsole presenter-minimizer" LINGUAS="en" OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION="libreoffice" > PHP_TARGETS="php5-5 php5-6" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby19 ruby20" > SANE_BACKENDS="epson2" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nouveau" > XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface > geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac > delude chaos account" > Unset: CC, CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, CXX, INSTALL_MASK, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, > PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, USE_PYTHON > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [SOLVED] [gentoo-user] poppler-0.32.0 - error

2015-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/09/2015 20:46, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 09/05/2015 12:23 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 05/09/2015 20:17, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I'm trying to re-emerge poppler but I'm getting error message >>> Here is the message log: >>> http://p

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict - xfce-base/libxfce4util

2015-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
ts and session management libraries for the Xfce desktop environment Hmmm. libxfcegui4 is old compat code for legacy shit from 3 versions back. I doubt you need it, and if you do, I suggest getting rid of the plugin that's requiring it. Or maybe you emerged it blindly. Either way: emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/notmpfs - does not exist

2015-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
mp/portage. The build dir will be on the same volume as /var/tmp 2. If you do have the spare RAM, by all means use a tmpfs - it speeds build times up amazingly. Put a tmpfs entry in fstab and nothing else. Voila, instant speed up. Libreoffice build time is halved. 2a. If you have spare RAM but not gobs and gobs of it (eg 8G tmpfs is pushing it), then stick with #2, but add specific env overrides for huge packages like libreoffice and firefox to use some other temp dir on disk for building and not /var/tmp/portage -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ortage/sets.conf I always keep full sources around for any runnable kernel I have, too often I've been caught out needing to build a module without them :-) > > [kernels] > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet > world-candidate = False > files = /usr/src > > It stops depclean removing any package that has files in /usr/src. > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/09/2015 11:42, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 16:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> x11-base/xorg-server >> >> Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
can make out is you old fart. McKinnon says "I'll have to get back to you on that!" while wandering into his library to fetch the trusty old copy of Mastering Serial Communications copyright 1986 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
7: unknown command: `/' > > Shouldn't it be: > sed -i /libs\/d /var/lib/portage/world > > This one doesn't produce any result. vim plus dd > >> >> Then run emerge --depclean --ask to clear out any that are no longer >> needed. > > Thelma > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 09/03/2015 07:19 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 03/09/2015 15:06, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 02:25:47PM -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>>> I've tried to post a "log&qu

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 19:22, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 04:27:26PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> dev-libs/check >>> dev-libs/libnl >>> dev-libs/openssl >> >> remove everything i

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 21:09, Francisco Ares wrote: > > > 2015-09-02 17:23 GMT-03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>>: > > On 02/09/2015 21:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 02, 2015 02:19:24

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
a-libs/soxr > media-sound/alsa-utils > media-sound/audacity > media-sound/cdparanoia > media-sound/cmus > media-sound/musepack-tools > media-sound/sox > media-video/dirac > media-video/dvdbackup > media-video/gtk-recordmydesktop > media-video/kino > media-video/motion > media-video/mplayer > media-video/vlc > media-video/xine-ui > net-analyzer/gnu-netcat > net-analyzer/httping > net-analyzer/nagios > net-analyzer/nagios-core > net-analyzer/nmap > net-analyzer/tcpdump > net-dialup/mgetty > net-dns/ddclient > net-fs/nfs-utils > net-fs/samba > net-ftp/gftp > net-libs/libvncserver > net-libs/openslp > net-mail/fetchmail > net-mail/tnef > net-misc/asterisk > net-misc/dhcpcd > net-misc/hylafaxplus > net-misc/iperf > net-misc/nx > net-misc/nxclient > net-misc/nxserver-freenx > net-misc/openvpn > net-misc/rdate > net-misc/socat > net-misc/telnet-bsd > net-misc/urlview > net-misc/whois > net-print/cups > net-print/cups-pdf > net-print/fax4cups > net-wireless/bluez > sci-calculators/qalculate-gtk > sys-apps/ack > sys-apps/acl > sys-apps/dmidecode > sys-apps/ethtool > sys-apps/hdparm > sys-apps/hwinfo > sys-apps/lshw > sys-apps/mlocate > sys-apps/pciutils > sys-apps/portage > sys-apps/setserial > sys-apps/xinetd > sys-boot/grub > sys-boot/grub:0 > sys-devel/crossdev > sys-devel/gcc > sys-devel/gcc:4.5 > sys-devel/icecream > sys-fs/eudev > sys-fs/fuse > sys-fs/lvm2 > sys-fs/sshfs-fuse > sys-kernel/genkernel > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.10.17 > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.5.7 > sys-power/apcupsd > sys-process/at > sys-process/htop > sys-process/vixie-cron > virtual/jdk > www-client/firefox-bin > www-client/links > www-client/seamonkey-bin > www-servers/apache > x11-base/xorg-x11 > x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers > x11-misc/gxmessage > x11-misc/shared-mime-info > x11-misc/slim > x11-terms/rxvt-unicode > x11-terms/xfce4-terminal > x11-themes/gtk-chtheme > x11-themes/tango-icon-theme > x11-themes/xfwm4-themes > xfce-base/thunar > xfce-base/xfce4-meta > xfce-base/xfce4-session > xfce-extra/thunar-archive-plugin > xfce-extra/tumbler > xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer > xfce-extra/xfce4-mount-plugin > xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter > xfce-extra/xfce4-sensors-plugin > xfce-extra/xfce4-taskmanager > xfce-extra/xfce4-verve-plugin > > Thelma > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 21:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 09/03/2015 01:24 PM, Mick wrote: >> On Thursday 03 Sep 2015 15:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> >>>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources >>>> sys-kern

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
bout every 6 months or so. It usually starts when someone asks a question like: did you ever work with those original 8 inch floppies? and the thread goes on for days :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 03:16, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > >>> Last, I suggest a parallel learning of C/C++ as it really helps > >> ^this^, after the basics are fully mastered. > >> netmasks make no sense at all until bitwise opera

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
lid POV. Gentoo config should be declarative, not imperative. You should tell it *what* you want, not *how* to do it. Packages and SLOTs are user-visible, they define what you want. Sub-slots, although I think I understand them, are a poorly though out implementation as they expose part of the h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/09/2015 21:09, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:10:26 AM walt wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:34:43 +0200 >> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 02/09/2015 15:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>&g

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
re that it doesn't contain any virtuals - it might also be good > to remove from it any software that you do not directly need. Even better - Thelma should just post the entire /var/lib/portage/world file so we can advise what to take out. Most newbies clutter up their world needlessly, it takes a bit of practice to grok what should be in their -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
>> Any hints on web resources for this research? > > It would depend on the level you are at now. :) > > Generally, I know more than enough about how it all works to do my job and > keep my own systems running reliably. > > But generally I simply listen when the like

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
. There I would agree with patrolling for code of conduct violations. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
operators are fully understood. Even CIDR notation is not really obvious until you understand what languages like C do with the 32 bit words we call IP addresses. All x10 when IPv6 comes into play -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
attach that, > or give us the last 250 lines or so. Every list has their own particular preference to things. Here on gentoo-user, since the very beginning, list users have preferred to not use pastebin services - they go away and the real information is forever lost. There's never a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
t docs describe the effect you should end up with, it's not always the same thing as what you *do* end up with. Finding that out means testing every possible circumstances and seeing the results, but there's an infinite variety of those. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] advice on transitioning from package.use file to package.use directory

2015-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
use the file and the directory *have*the*same*name* So you must first move the file out of the way or rename it, then move it into the newly created directory. What ought to have happened, and the convention had long existed when this scheme for portage was thought up, is to call the directory /etc/portage/package.mask.d/ then you could easily have a main file and as many subsidiary files as you need/want. Just like how every other package seems to do it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2015 02:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31/08/2015 18:54, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>>> The words make sense, the meaning doesn't :-) >>>>> >>>>> It looks like fail2

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2015 12:18, Marc Joliet_1 wrote: > On Tuesday 01 September 2015 11:55:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 01/09/2015 02:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > [...] >> >> Got it, finally :-) >> >> fail2ban wants sys-apps/systemd[python(-)], and system

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2015 13:03, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 01/09/2015 02:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 31/08/2015 18:54, co

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 16:03, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31/08/2015 13:49, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >>>> A clue is in the ebuilds for systemd: >>>>> >>>>> sysv

Re: [OT] Was re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from >>> 2009. It has an i5 processor, 1

Re: [gentoo-user] media-libs/jpeg / media-libs/libjpeg-turbo - blocking each other

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
-emerge "media-video/vlc" but it didn't help. vlc has nothing to do with your jpeg problem. It's referenced above in a separate section about ncurses. nxclient seems to be at the heart of your problem, it wants a version of jpeg that conflicts withe libjpeg-turbo. But nxclient is no longer in the tree. When did you last sync the tree? If it was a while back, you should do it now and retry emerge -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the correct version of ncurses on ~amd64 now?

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
e ABI_MIPS="-n32 -n64 -o32" ABI_PPC="-32 -64" ABI_S390="-32 -64" ABI_X86="32 64 -x32") Homepage:https://www.gnu.org/software/ncurses/ http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ Description: console display library So 6.0-r1 works completely relaible on at least one Gentoo machine in this world :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
the python entries were mandated by > portage, certainly the systemd one. I'm having a hard time figuring out what is making portage do this. I also figure you're OK with a downgraded systemd meanwhile, but just for kicks, lets test my theory: If you run this, does portage offer to upgrade systemd? USE="-python" emerge -pv systemd -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
e, but I'm pretty > sure that's the way I'd do it. That's also the way musicbrainz does it. most taggers follow musicbrainz's lead. It also makes total sense to do it your way -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
"able to access any random address as fast as any other random address". RAM is also not the opposite of ROM :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 13:03, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 31/08/2015 06:19, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >> >> >> answers interleaved >> >> >>> Hi. On my latest update of world, I ha

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
?,introspection?,static-libs?] > (dev-libs/libgudev:0/0[abi_x86_32(-),abi_x86_64(-),introspection]) required > by (virtual/libgudev-230:0/0::gentoo, installed) and this is more explanatory data about why you need systemd, sysvinit and libgudev. Normally it's a good idea to print why blockers are being pulled in, but in this case systemd is a basic package and gets pulled in by many things. It makes for a long and confusing list > > > So, my real problem seems to be the systemd blockers. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [OT] Was re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/08/2015 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from >>> 2009. It has an i5 processor, 1

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

2015-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
owngraded; the previous output either lists just "sys-apps/systemd" or uses a ">=" operator. Nothing to say why 219_p112 is the highest usable version. Once the emerge finishes and portage has done what it wants, run these commands: emerge -pv systemd emerge -pv =systemd-225 (225 being latest in the tree). Then we can see better why portage is doing what it does -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
the uptime game, and had remote DNS servers with 1600 days uptime. It looks impressive, but all it really proves is I'm a short-sighted idiot who doesn't do kernel updates :-) So I don't do that extreme anymore. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Advantages or disadvantages of use package.use as directory

2015-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
again and do what they say. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
for some exterior event to decide for us (like black-outs) Sad, init? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
about. Assuming of course that your computer is a desktop/laptop, and not a 42U cabinet jam packed full of Dell 2950s -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote: How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? How long between power off/on's ? I've long been in the habit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
a salary, at market rates. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2015 11:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 06:14:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I find for popular CDs (like what my kids buy in music stores), Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe

Re: [gentoo-user] curses of ncurses :(

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/08/2015 20:56, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:43:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Kids still buy CDs? My grandson recently asked me What's a record? when I used the term. I live in a different universe to you called South Africa and CDs are a big market here. The bulk

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
ripping - it looks the CD up on CDDB. To do the job properly, and fully manage all the metadata, nothing comes close to beets. It's also a cli python app which will go down well around here, none of that point mith a mouse and click nonsense :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/08/2015 19:43, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:30:09 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/08/2015 04:28, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs

Re: [gentoo-user] about online database of files per pkg

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
from. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
? Other caveats to worry about? TIA, James Add to package.mask: sys-boot/grub:2 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
of course! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Lenovo X1 Carbon (3rd gen)

2015-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
with me? Grab the .config files from both running systems and diff them. Expect the output to be long but with care you can narrow down the important differences. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
framework magic and can't see through the spell. sigh -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
to figure out what is really going on. These days portage is very good at doing the right thing (it still sucks at a human level in it's output...) and today Harry just got really unlucky. So yeah, reinstall is probably not the better option here. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 16:46, Harry Putnam wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Working thru all the guff with all you posters patient help would probably have been the best but between posting and seeing answers (suring the morning in the wee hours). I jumped stupid and starting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge world looking grim

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 18:49, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: Or you can get a binary package from anywhere else you trust. My personal favourite: chroot into a stage3 and quickpkg gcc. Then copy to your install and voila. I knew there was a way to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2015 22:04, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Monday, August 24, 2015 9:31:38 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Does anyone have an opinion to offer on bug 501468? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501468 It's been annoying me for a week now with this message: !!! existing preserved libs

[gentoo-user] Endless preserved-rebuild loop, libmozalloc more

2015-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
on the bug is to use a MASK variable, which seems to me an ugly hammer to swat a fly. I was wondering if there's a better way been developed in the last year. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] kde-frameworks 5

2015-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
4 meanwhile, just specify the :4 slot for your kde packages in set files or in world, like so: kde-apps/kdemultimedia-meta:4 In my case I only had to do it for the -meta packages and all was good. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
an ancient TV from the mid '70s (Blaupunkt) that would sometimes develop a rattle in one of the drive circuit coils. Damn thing would sound like a hive of bees inside the cabinet! Agreed. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
an expensive oscilloscope just lying around, so a good recommendation is to replace the PSU anyway every 2 years or so - more if the thing runs hot. I consider these as wearing items, sorta like oil filters -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
=/= instead of != -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
the photo off my camera because digikam does not compile. =| -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
-Recommended-PSU-s-True-Tested Hope one of those helps or maybe all of them. Dale -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 16:57, hw wrote: Am 22.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
. Integers only. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
engineer), and Baloo written instead. The intent is to get the benefits of a semantic desktop without having to use all available resources to do it. Not everything in this world warrants a clueless rant you know. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
the information we need (and have asked for) to be able to help you. The `emerge --info` helps, but you haven't listed an explicit build failure or details about that package. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
.amd64/tools/clang/lib/StaticAnalyzer/Core/Release/BugReporter.o] Error 1 make[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] PHP slots

2015-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
). To control that, you need to add them to world. What you should not do is try add specific versions of packages to world. That can go horribly wrong. SLOTs for apps you will emerge are generally OK -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: !!!!

2015-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
have version number - -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

2015-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
in places. I like this, to me it's a wonderful trade-off. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

2015-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

2015-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/08/2015 20:54, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/08/2015 17:36, Dale wrote: Heck, I wish a stage 1 install was supported. I think I'd give it a shot if I could. Er, no. You don't. You really, really REALLY don't want to go Stage 1 :-) My second install was a stage 1, way back

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation failure

2015-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
shot, but I won't stick around on this damn list any longer. Alan McKinnon wrote: All of which highlights something you need to know about Gentoo: arund here, we start by assuming you know what you are doing mostly and can think logically. Alan is *not* saying that Gentoo is not for you; he

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Keyboard stops working several times/day

2015-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
stops working in the middle of my typing :( Any debugging suggestions would be most welcome. First step (more to half the problem space than anything else): Does the same happen if you use another keyboard? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Keyboard stops working several times/day

2015-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2015 21:42, walt wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 18:58:27 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/08/2015 18:45, walt wrote: I've been seeing this keyboard problem for the past few weeks: after running some command from a bash prompt (haven't tried zsh yet

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: testing system + gcc-5.2 anyone?

2015-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
-- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] why --noclear not set on tty1 in default /etc/inittab?

2015-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
to /var/log/rc.log and get into the habit of checking it when rebooting after a change. I always check it after booting a new kernel for instance. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
recall the discussion well, and it was not pleasant. The only real voice of sanity throughout was the final statement by the Council, who very wisely shut up right until the end when it was obvious a definitive decision was needed. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
, give or take 10 mins or so. Doesn't seem worth the extra hassle of ccache for an hour and a half. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Optimal formatting a SDcard (64GB) with partions of diffent sizes and filesystems?

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
is to keep the FS block size aligned with the native block alignment of the device. Example: Using 4k blocks that start at 1k is obviously going to be a problem - writing one block of data to the FS will always involve writing two blocks to the physical device -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/08/2015 18:34, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: On 06/08/2015 11:13, Felix Miata wrote: Gentoo is not supposed to be easy, but if you'd just followed the handbook you would have got what you wanted. Choosing non-defaults breaks the flow, especially when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/08/2015 20:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote: On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation CD iso is where?,

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
-- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Searching for Overlays

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
success. As with everything else in Gentoo it's buyer beware, and train your eyeballs and brain beforehand. There does not seem to be an easy shortcuts. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
Gentoo on at least one of my much faster systems, but only after enough experience with it to have a respectable shot at putting Trinity on it instead of any of the more popular DEs. This machine is a guinea pig for familiarization purposes. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
:-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] want to upgrade 50 month old installation

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
:-) If the distfile is still available and he needs no deps, that will work as he has an old portage and tree. If not, well there's always go through /var/db/pkg with ls, find and friends -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
Gentooers tend the same way if they get the chance. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: want to upgrade 50 month old installation

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 16:27, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-05, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/08/2015 20:30, Felix Miata wrote: Seriously, more than a day? Bwahahahaha! You are too funny! THREE WEEKS is not uncommon for this. I am not joking. Remember, I have done it, and so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 19:20, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrade to perl 5.22.0 yields perl double free or corruption

2015-08-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
! [] Random shit in the style of Discworld! [] Your $DEITY is messing with your head to test your faith! [] Shit happens sometimes :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

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