On 2021-03-31, Jack wrote:
> On 2021.03.31 16:28, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Many years ago, there was an X11 man page and gnu info viewer that I
>> used to use, but I can't remember the name of it. This was probably
>> 20+ years ago (pre GTK and Qt), so the chance
and Qt), so the chances that it's still around
are small...
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scripts don't start things on boot despite
being in the default runlevel. Yet I can reliably start / control the
service with "rc-service $ServiceName start".
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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On 2021-03-22, antlists wrote:
> On 22/03/2021 13:17, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> If you don't want to spend quite that much money, I'm a fan of
>> Lenonovo Moto "G" series phones. You get a lot of phone for your money
>> and very little "bloat". A few of t
little "bloat". A few of the models used to be available as
pure vanilla android, but I don't know if any of the current models
are.
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environment is.
I feel like what's written on the tin doesn't sufficiently address the
OP's question:
On 3/20/21 9:22 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
Can anybody comment on the pros and cons of either package?
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between /user/ /space/ utilities and /kernel/ /space/ support for the
same file system.
Is there something that I'm missing that would prevent exfat-progs (user
space) with FUSE exFAT (kernel space) -or- exfat-utils (user space) with
in-kernel exFAT (kernel space)?
#confused
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backed up to be able to
restore it. Also, inadvertent and unexpected backup test. :-j
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boot' and have it
leverage whatever it is that `myService-boot' already provides.
Immaterial.
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em
goes into the default runlevel?
My expectation is that OpenRC will (try to) start myService-default when
the system enters the default runlevel. But it will fail if
myService-boot is still running.
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eason
you're using samba instead of the kernel's cifs support?
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.
There might be some optional parameter that is different between them,
inducing the DHCP server to offer different addresses.
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ogic, and the result of my logic.
Thank you for the discussion Michael. :-)
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On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote:
> When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window
> (this is something I do a lot, every day), it works normally until I
> release the mouse button. Then, instead of staying where it's put the
> new window will follow the mouse c
gs
on use cases where the handbook recommendation is inappropriate and
must be deviated from.
Agreed.
Also, see prior comment about superior / everywhere vs inferior / not
everywhere options.
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.
Note: I don't know if there is one common list or separate lists for
MMv2 and MMv3.
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On 2021-03-12, Spackman, Chris wrote:
> On 2021/03/12 at 02:57pm, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window
>> > [...] instead of staying where it's put the new window will follow
>> > the mouse cursor aroun
On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote:
> When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window
> [...] instead of staying where it's put the
> new window will follow the mouse cursor around the desktop anytime
> Chrom(e|ium) has focus.
[...]
> If I press ctr
ts.
Any suggestions on how to diagnose/fix this?
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Any ideas?
Not really. Just threads to chase.
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rotocol family.
As such, having the local host's name, qualified or not, appear on
multiple lines for the same protocol is contrary to what the man page
states.
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teresting discussion. However, I'm still no
closer to learning why the Gentoo handbook wants the local host name
added to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file. Something
which I believe is wrong and bad advice.
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directory that was still back at last March while emerge was
using a newer incrementally updating version of portage. -- I consider
this to be my fault.
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he manual specifically.
As I no longer run Gentoo - I haven't for about 3 years other than
one remaining VM seldom used and seldom updated - I'm way out of
touch with the actual manual but interested in the subject.
Fair enough.
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the dummy adapter.
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this host that I'm on
without worrying what the actual host name is or that said name is
configured to resolve to an IP on this system.
The localhost concept goes back a LONG way in TCP/IP. I think that it
even pre-dates TCP/IP, via the NCP protocol.
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this and there may be more to it, but on a
pure linux environment I expect this would not be a requirement,
hence the handbook approach.
Apples and bowling balls. /etc/hosts is not the same concept as
/etc/resolv.conf.
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tting the FQDN
on the same line as 127.0.0.1 and / or ::1.
4) In my /etc/hosts I do _NOT_ map my machine's name to the same address
as localhost, avoiding the Kerberos warning:
ACK
I'm grateful for corroboration, but unfortunately that doesn't speak to
why the Gentoo handbook suggests what it does.
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On 2/21/21 3:23 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
Will someone please explain why the Gentoo AMD64 Handbook ~> Gentoo (at
large) says to add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 (or ::1) entry
in the /etc/hosts file? What was the thought process behind that?
Shameless Bump -- I'm still interes
portage directory.
This wouldn't have been an issue if I just re-used the same portage
directory.
I guess different situations require different methods.
Indeed.
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-linux-gnu-9.3.0 * (cyan *)
[2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-10.2.0 * (green *)
The aarch64* came in as part of @openwrt-prerequisites. I should
probably remove that as I no longer need it.
Thank you for your input Neil.
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ing the method /and/ establishing trust therein.
I was thinking of a week max.
I suspect that would be quite safe.
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On 3/8/21 4:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
How do you feel it compares to just installing from scratch while
preserving whatever config and user data you care about? I've done
that quite a few times and it usually takes about 2-3 hours for the
initial install and then overnight to build a desktop
On 2021-03-08, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> 10 have git switch to the next day
>> 20 emerge -aDUN @world
>> 30 assess / deal with masked packages
>> 40 goto 10
>>
>> It /looks/ like things are working.
>
> *TL;DR*
&
etty.
Anyway, glad it worked for you - it's more or less how I would have
approached it but never had to, so thanks for doing the legwork :)
You're welcome.
Hence the DenverCoder9 comment, for people searching ~> reading the
mailing list archive in the future.
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On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
10 have git switch to the next day
20 emerge -aDUN @world
30 assess / deal with masked packages
40 goto 10
It /looks/ like things are working.
*TL;DR*
DenverCoder9: DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE ...
This method /does/ work. I have successfully brought
60; done
Since your pool is only 'DEGRADED', you are probably in an okay
position. It's just a matter of not making things worse while trying to
make them better.
Given that you have a RAIDZ3 and all of the other disks are ONLINE, your
data should currently be safe.
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ge to find it?
I'm hoping that the "Messages for package ..." output that shows up at
the end of an emerge (e.g. @system or @world) is conveniently available.
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On 2021-02-27, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:08:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On one of my Gentoo machines Python 2.7 has not been removed by
>> deplcean as it has on others, and I've been unable to determine
>> why. It's not in the world fi
On 2021-02-27, hitachi303 wrote:
> Am 27.02.2021 um 14:08 schrieb Grant Edwards:
>
>> How do you determine why portage thinks a certain slot of a package
>> is required? None of the documentation I an find on portage discusses
>> finding packages dependent on particular s
settings.
How do you determine why portage thinks a certain slot of a package
is required? None of the documentation I an find on portage discusses
finding packages dependent on particular slots.
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aren't in the tree.
At least not for the example package I looked at.
Find across the /var/db/pkg tree does not find any tar files either.
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. That will be a problem for
future me to deal with manually.
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On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
10 have git switch to the next day
20 emerge -aDUN @world
30 assess / deal with masked packages
40 goto 10
It /looks/ like things are working.
This method is working.
I have managed to successfully update from 2020-03-24 to 2020-05-29 in
one day
On 2/24/21 9:29 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of
/usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today.
The system is now stable with a full -DUNe @system.
emerge -DUNe @system
reboot
emerge -D
ng a few programs. So, it spending time compiling and producing
heat is not a bad thing in this case. Especially when there's 10" of
snow on the ground. ;-)
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On 2021-02-25, hitachi303 wrote:
> I found it to be helpful to de-install as many programs as possible
> before starting the update and the first emerge --sync. This reduces the
> amount of conflicts by a considerable amount.
Yes, Definitely. If you can, uninstall anything "big" that you can
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year
> have been possible? ;-)
Yes -- and fairly easy. Somehow, the amount of update effort required
doesn't just add up over time, it multiplies.
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote:
> I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March
> 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying.
>
> What is the best way forward?
If it were me, I'd probably back up /etc and /home and just reinstall.
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still defy logic depending on the way you look at it, but that's
a different question.
Hence why I'm seeking the logic behind what was done.
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lly rather not do that. I'm more likely to leave this system as
it is and plan on upgrading it some time in '21. There's considerably
more to it than I want to wholesale replace.
Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year
have been possible? ;-)
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::1) entry in the /etc/hosts file? What was the thought process behind
that?
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Thank you for the reply John.
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let's call it
... a compatible version That's my hope anyway.
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changes
Is there a way that I can sync portage to something from April, May, or
even June of 2020, do a full update (including "-DUNe @world")?
Iterating through multiple rounds to get current?
Any help would be appreciated.
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ork interface.
Thank you for any input you can provide.
[1] Kerberos: The Definitive Guide (p. 109). O'Reilly Media. Kindle Edition.
[2]
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/System#The_hosts_file
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gin.
Everything "just worked". I was so impressed, I coughed up the $10 for
premium.
I'll have to do some experimenting with the CLI app for doing backups...
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On 2021-02-18, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> That's what I was using, but I now run my own BitWarden server, so I get
> the convenience and the security.
Ah-ha! And _that's_ what I could use an $11 VPS for!
line file
storage.
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in
the future.
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through the WAN link and
BranchServer is at the same branch office as you.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/networking/
service-overview-and-network-port-requirements
Thank you for the link. I will read it in the coming days as time permits.
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like to read it.
Anyhow, I think the OPs problem is down to the wrong CUPS driver used
in remote client(s).
Agreed.
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with no-multilib
would be 64-bit.
What am I missing?
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environments, is that it is all DNS based.
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On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:10:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> What was the error message?
>
> You'd know if you had seen it. Chromium displays "Aw, snap!" in the
> browser window when it barfs on a page.
Ah. The most
On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 13:43:31 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > since a few days Chromium is broken here. Even deleting
>> > ~/.config/chromium I get this error message immediately after
>> > Chromium comes up.
gt; 90.0.4412.3
>
> What might be the reason?
Based on the error message, I'd guess your neutrino flux is too high.
> Am I the only one with this problem?
7.5
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k I probably would have just bought a printer long before this
point...
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ble of any sort.
IIRC, rc originally stood for "run commands", and it contained a list
of commands for the application to run during initialization. They are
almostly always not executable, but rather configuration commands in
some application-specific syntax.
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t. (if you are commercial, consider a licence to
get the latest rules as soon as they are created/needed.)
Another option in the same vein is to use the IPTables variants of the
Snort rules.
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ttle effort an existing Gentoo installation. :-/
Perhaps, but my plex-meida-server isn't running on an HTPC. It runs on
my normal desktop machine with which I do software development and
other day-to-day stuff.
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On 2021-02-05, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones wrote:
>
>> Use the plex overlay.
>>
>> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was.
>
> This one?
>
> https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/
>
> The ple
something?
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portage.
> One way round that would be to run it under Docker.
The whole Plex thing is something I need to figure out. I suppose it's
either give up on it completely or Docker. Complaints in the Plex
forums about it using an obsolte version of Python are pretty much met
with a response of "shut up and go away". :/
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thank you for your help based on your understanding.
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emerge with the proper --root.
[1]
<https://schlomp.space/tastytea/docker-images/src/branch/main/gentoo-base.Dockerfile>
$ReadingList++
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quot;. (Or whatever is current at the time.)
Thank you for the help.
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stem.)
I would also VERY MUCH like to stay as far away from systemd et al. as
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build from to suite your needs.
I largely agree. But I thought there were also other binaries included
that aren't strictly needed.
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be removed?
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ut half the times when emerge strongly
recommends an immediate oneshot emerge of portage, emerge then refuses
to do so.
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On 2021-01-29, Alan Grimes wrote:
> I'm trying to update my system after 71 days of uptime because I wanna
> start moving my stuff into a newer case (current case is 11 years old...)
Mine is 19 years old. I hope the aluminum hasn't gone bad. My keyboard
is 35 years old...
;)
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On 1/29/21 6:37 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
My brain knows that. My fingers only partially so.
I *completely* understand.
I now manage to use 'ip addr' instead of ifconfig _most_ of the
time. I still almost always use 'route' instead of of 'ip route'. I
figure in another 20 years, I will have
On 2021-01-29, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I uncommented in: sudoers (it works)
> %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL
> %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
Wow. That seems extremely dangerous to me...
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On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote:
> iproute2 has supplanted the venerable net-tools (or whatever it's
> called); ifconfig, route, netstat, etc.
My brain knows that. My fingers only partially so.
> I sort of put pressure on my self to start using them 20 years ago,
> and la
On 1/28/21 7:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
I think that's probably right. I had never used the 'ip route'
command like that and was unaware that route existed.
*nod*
iproute2 has supplanted the venerable net-tools (or whatever it's
called); ifconfig, route, netstat, etc.
I sort of put
On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote:
> My understanding -- which may be wrong, and please correct me if you
> think it is -- is that this special route (#2) is how the kernel sends
> the entire 127/8 network to the lo adapter, even if the IP addresses
> aren't bound to the adapt
On 1/28/21 5:38 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
I've just recently realized something about the "lo" interface.
I don't think this is as much about the interface as it is the routes
that are created. (More below.)
You can bind a socket to any 127.0.0.N address, even though only
1
n't even need to have 127.0.0.1/8 listed in
/etc/config/net...
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check the syntax.
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On 1/13/21 6:25 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Some of the above are shadowed by readline or by bash in emacs mode,
but the tty driver uses more than a few control keys.
Thank you for the clarification / additional information.
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On 2021-01-14, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 1/13/21 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I really should try to figure out a control-character that's not used
>> by emacs or the tty driver
>
> I think there are very few, if any, keys used by the TTY driver. I
> suspect you
On 1/13/21 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
I really should try to figure out a control-character that's not used
by emacs or the tty driver
I think there are very few, if any, keys used by the TTY driver.
I suspect you are thinking of the line editor in the shell, e.g. readline.
I can see how
On 2021-01-13, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 22:15:25 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> FWOW, if you really want backscrolling on the console, you can get
>> that with screen, but doing so would drive me nuts, since I'd have to
>> break all my fingers t
d be nice if I could print out my fingers' assignment table to
find an unused control character, but that doesn't seem to be how it
works.
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On 1/13/21 2:56 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Hello, Grant.
Hi Alan,
Well, there's really not much that can't be done in a terminal
emulator. But it's the manner of the doing that's important.
Okay. I can appreciate and respect that response.
Doing text work in X is s l u g g i s h
be in line1 or line2!!! ]
>
> seems to work. At least, I got some other errors now ;-)
What encoding is your editor using?
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as it does things that other
terminal emulators have never heard of.
Please share if you do things that /can/ be done in the Linux console
that /can't/ be done in a terminal emulator.
If it's just preference, then hat's off to you.
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On 2021-01-13, n952162 wrote:
> Hello. In python3, how do you do this?
Please explain what "this" is trying to accomplish, and we can tell
you how to do it in Python3. Are you trying to convert from Unicode to
Latin1 and back to Unicode?
Python 3.8.6 (default, Jan 2 2021, 20:25:58)
[GCC
On 2021-01-08, Grant Edwards wrote:
> I've noticed that when linking an applicatoin I now get warnings like this:
>
> /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
> /usr/lib/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread
> /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-l
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