[gentoo-user] Re: Is there a way to misconfigure USB ports in the kernel?

2021-03-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-31, Jack wrote: > On 2021.03.31 16:28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Many years ago, there was an X11 man page and gnu info viewer that I >> used to use, but I can't remember the name of it. This was probably >> 20+ years ago (pre GTK and Qt), so the chance

[gentoo-user] Re: Is there a way to misconfigure USB ports in the kernel?

2021-03-31 Thread Grant Edwards
and Qt), so the chances that it's still around are small... -- Grant

[gentoo-user] OpenRC vs SysV init scripts.

2021-03-24 Thread Grant Taylor
scripts don't start things on boot despite being in the default runlevel. Yet I can reliably start / control the service with "rc-service $ServiceName start". Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo + wifi

2021-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-22, antlists wrote: > On 22/03/2021 13:17, Grant Edwards wrote: >> If you don't want to spend quite that much money, I'm a fan of >> Lenonovo Moto "G" series phones. You get a lot of phone for your money >> and very little "bloat". A few of t

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo + wifi

2021-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
little "bloat". A few of the models used to be available as pure vanilla android, but I don't know if any of the current models are. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] "sys-fs/exfat-utils" vs "sys-fs/exfatprogs"

2021-03-20 Thread Grant Taylor
environment is. I feel like what's written on the tin doesn't sufficiently address the OP's question: On 3/20/21 9:22 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Can anybody comment on the pros and cons of either package? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] "sys-fs/exfat-utils" vs "sys-fs/exfatprogs"

2021-03-20 Thread Grant Taylor
between /user/ /space/ utilities and /kernel/ /space/ support for the same file system. Is there something that I'm missing that would prevent exfat-progs (user space) with FUSE exFAT (kernel space) -or- exfat-utils (user space) with in-kernel exFAT (kernel space)? #confused -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] root on nfs and multiple ip addresses

2021-03-19 Thread Grant Taylor
backed up to be able to restore it. Also, inadvertent and unexpected backup test. :-j -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about runlevels.

2021-03-18 Thread Grant Taylor
boot' and have it leverage whatever it is that `myService-boot' already provides. Immaterial. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Question about runlevels.

2021-03-18 Thread Grant Taylor
em goes into the default runlevel? My expectation is that OpenRC will (try to) start myService-default when the system enters the default runlevel. But it will fail if myService-boot is still running. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: problem mounting windows share on samba

2021-03-18 Thread Grant Edwards
eason you're using samba instead of the kernel's cifs support? -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] root on nfs and multiple ip addresses

2021-03-17 Thread Grant Taylor
. There might be some optional parameter that is different between them, inducing the DHCP server to offer different addresses. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-16 Thread Grant Taylor
ogic, and the result of my logic. Thank you for the discussion Michael. :-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote: > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window > (this is something I do a lot, every day), it works normally until I > release the mouse button. Then, instead of staying where it's put the > new window will follow the mouse c

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-13 Thread Grant Taylor
gs on use cases where the handbook recommendation is inappropriate and must be deviated from. Agreed. Also, see prior comment about superior / everywhere vs inferior / not everywhere options. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] how to install mailman3 on gentoo

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Taylor
. Note: I don't know if there is one common list or separate lists for MMv2 and MMv3. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2021/03/12 at 02:57pm, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window >> > [...] instead of staying where it's put the new window will follow >> > the mouse cursor aroun

[gentoo-user] Re: Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-12, Grant Edwards wrote: > When I drag a tab out of it's parent window to create a new window > [...] instead of staying where it's put the > new window will follow the mouse cursor around the desktop anytime > Chrom(e|ium) has focus. [...] > If I press ctr

[gentoo-user] Odd Chrome behavior when dragging tab to create new window

2021-03-12 Thread Grant Edwards
ts. Any suggestions on how to diagnose/fix this? -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird harddisk problem: AHCI disks sometimes not found

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor
. Any ideas? Not really. Just threads to chase. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor
rotocol family. As such, having the local host's name, qualified or not, appear on multiple lines for the same protocol is contrary to what the man page states. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-11 Thread Grant Taylor
teresting discussion. However, I'm still no closer to learning why the Gentoo handbook wants the local host name added to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file. Something which I believe is wrong and bad advice. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
directory that was still back at last March while emerge was using a newer incrementally updating version of portage. -- I consider this to be my fault. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
he manual specifically. As I no longer run Gentoo - I haven't for about 3 years other than one remaining VM seldom used and seldom updated - I'm way out of touch with the actual manual but interested in the subject. Fair enough. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
the dummy adapter. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
this host that I'm on without worrying what the actual host name is or that said name is configured to resolve to an IP on this system. The localhost concept goes back a LONG way in TCP/IP. I think that it even pre-dates TCP/IP, via the NCP protocol. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
this and there may be more to it, but on a pure linux environment I expect this would not be a requirement, hence the handbook approach. Apples and bowling balls. /etc/hosts is not the same concept as /etc/resolv.conf. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
tting the FQDN on the same line as 127.0.0.1 and / or ::1. 4) In my /etc/hosts I do _NOT_ map my machine's name to the same address as localhost, avoiding the Kerberos warning: ACK I'm grateful for corroboration, but unfortunately that doesn't speak to why the Gentoo handbook suggests what it does. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-03-09 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/21/21 3:23 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: Will someone please explain why the Gentoo AMD64 Handbook ~> Gentoo (at large) says to add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 (or ::1) entry in the /etc/hosts file?  What was the thought process behind that? Shameless Bump -- I'm still interes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
portage directory. This wouldn't have been an issue if I just re-used the same portage directory. I guess different situations require different methods. Indeed. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
-linux-gnu-9.3.0 * (cyan *) [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-10.2.0 * (green *) The aarch64* came in as part of @openwrt-prerequisites. I should probably remove that as I no longer need it. Thank you for your input Neil. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
ing the method /and/ establishing trust therein. I was thinking of a week max. I suspect that would be quite safe. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 4:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: How do you feel it compares to just installing from scratch while preserving whatever config and user data you care about? I've done that quite a few times and it usually takes about 2-3 hours for the initial install and then overnight to build a desktop

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-03-08, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: >> 10 have git switch to the next day >> 20 emerge -aDUN @world >> 30 assess / deal with masked packages >> 40 goto 10 >> >> It /looks/ like things are working. > > *TL;DR* &

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
etty. Anyway, glad it worked for you - it's more or less how I would have approached it but never had to, so thanks for doing the legwork :) You're welcome. Hence the DenverCoder9 comment, for people searching ~> reading the mailing list archive in the future. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. *TL;DR* DenverCoder9: DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE ... This method /does/ work. I have successfully brought

Re: [gentoo-user] zfs repair needed (due to fingers being faster than brain)

2021-03-01 Thread Grant Taylor
60; done Since your pool is only 'DEGRADED', you are probably in an okay position. It's just a matter of not making things worse while trying to make them better. Given that you have a RAIDZ3 and all of the other disks are ONLINE, your data should currently be safe. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Is the "Messages for package ..." output from emerge logged somewhere?

2021-02-28 Thread Grant Taylor
ge to find it? I'm hoping that the "Messages for package ..." output that shows up at the end of an emerge (e.g. @system or @world) is conveniently available. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-27, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:08:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On one of my Gentoo machines Python 2.7 has not been removed by >> deplcean as it has on others, and I've been unable to determine >> why. It's not in the world fi

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-27, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 27.02.2021 um 14:08 schrieb Grant Edwards: > >> How do you determine why portage thinks a certain slot of a package >> is required? None of the documentation I an find on portage discusses >> finding packages dependent on particular s

[gentoo-user] Determine why Python 2.7 is still installed?

2021-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
settings. How do you determine why portage thinks a certain slot of a package is required? None of the documentation I an find on portage discusses finding packages dependent on particular slots. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
aren't in the tree. At least not for the example package I looked at. Find across the /var/db/pkg tree does not find any tar files either. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
. That will be a problem for future me to deal with manually. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. This method is working. I have managed to successfully update from 2020-03-24 to 2020-05-29 in one day

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:29 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. The system is now stable with a full -DUNe @system. emerge -DUNe @system reboot emerge -D

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
ng a few programs. So, it spending time compiling and producing heat is not a bad thing in this case. Especially when there's 10" of snow on the ground. ;-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, hitachi303 wrote: > I found it to be helpful to de-install as many programs as possible > before starting the update and the first emerge --sync. This reduces the > amount of conflicts by a considerable amount. Yes, Definitely. If you can, uninstall anything "big" that you can

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote: > Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year > have been possible? ;-) Yes -- and fairly easy. Somehow, the amount of update effort required doesn't just add up over time, it multiplies.

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-25, Grant Taylor wrote: > I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March > 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. > > What is the best way forward? If it were me, I'd probably back up /etc and /home and just reinstall. -- other Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
still defy logic depending on the way you look at it, but that's a different question. Hence why I'm seeking the logic behind what was done. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
lly rather not do that. I'm more likely to leave this system as it is and plan on upgrading it some time in '21. There's considerably more to it than I want to wholesale replace. Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year have been possible? ;-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
::1) entry in the /etc/hosts file? What was the thought process behind that? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
. Thank you for the reply John. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
let's call it ... a compatible version That's my hope anyway. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
changes Is there a way that I can sync portage to something from April, May, or even June of 2020, do a full update (including "-DUNe @world")? Iterating through multiple rounds to get current? Any help would be appreciated. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-21 Thread Grant Taylor
ork interface. Thank you for any input you can provide. [1] Kerberos: The Definitive Guide (p. 109). O'Reilly Media. Kindle Edition. [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/System#The_hosts_file -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-19 Thread Grant Edwards
gin. Everything "just worked". I was so impressed, I coughed up the $10 for premium. I'll have to do some experimenting with the CLI app for doing backups... -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-18, Neil Bothwick wrote: > That's what I was using, but I now run my own BitWarden server, so I get > the convenience and the security. Ah-ha! And _that's_ what I could use an $11 VPS for!

[gentoo-user] Re: Moving from Lastpass to Bitwarden

2021-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
line file storage. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] why both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 on a 64bit system?

2021-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
in the future. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP port 445

2021-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
through the WAN link and BranchServer is at the same branch office as you. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/networking/ service-overview-and-network-port-requirements Thank you for the link. I will read it in the coming days as time permits. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: TCP port 445

2021-02-14 Thread Grant Taylor
like to read it. Anyhow, I think the OPs problem is down to the wrong CUPS driver used in remote client(s). Agreed. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] why both /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 on a 64bit system?

2021-02-13 Thread Grant Taylor
with no-multilib would be 64-bit. What am I missing? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Sharing printers via Cups

2021-02-13 Thread Grant Taylor
environments, is that it is all DNS based. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 15:10:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> What was the error message? > > You'd know if you had seen it. Chromium displays "Aw, snap!" in the > browser window when it barfs on a page. Ah. The most

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 13:43:31 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > since a few days Chromium is broken here. Even deleting >> > ~/.config/chromium I get this error message immediately after >> > Chromium comes up.

[gentoo-user] Re: Chromium Aw, Snap!

2021-02-12 Thread Grant Edwards
gt; 90.0.4412.3 > > What might be the reason? Based on the error message, I'd guess your neutrino flux is too high. > Am I the only one with this problem? 7.5 -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Sharing printers via Cups

2021-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
k I probably would have just bought a printer long before this point... -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)

2021-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
ble of any sort. IIRC, rc originally stood for "run commands", and it contained a list of commands for the application to run during initialization. They are almostly always not executable, but rather configuration commands in some application-specific syntax. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] spam - different IP's

2021-02-05 Thread Grant Taylor
t. (if you are commercial, consider a licence to get the latest rules as soon as they are created/needed.) Another option in the same vein is to use the IPTables variants of the Snort rules. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-05 Thread Grant Edwards
ttle effort an existing Gentoo installation. :-/ Perhaps, but my plex-meida-server isn't running on an HTPC. It runs on my normal desktop machine with which I do software development and other day-to-day stuff. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones wrote: > >> Use the plex overlay. >> >> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was. > > This one? > > https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/ > > The ple

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
something? -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

2021-02-04 Thread Grant Edwards
portage. > One way round that would be to run it under Docker. The whole Plex thing is something I need to figure out. I suppose it's either give up on it completely or Docker. Complaints in the Plex forums about it using an obsolte version of Python are pretty much met with a response of "shut up and go away". :/ -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
thank you for your help based on your understanding. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
emerge with the proper --root. [1] <https://schlomp.space/tastytea/docker-images/src/branch/main/gentoo-base.Dockerfile> $ReadingList++ -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
quot;. (Or whatever is current at the time.) Thank you for the help. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
stem.) I would also VERY MUCH like to stay as far away from systemd et al. as possible. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
build from to suite your needs. I largely agree. But I thought there were also other binaries included that aren't strictly needed. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Minimal world file.

2021-02-03 Thread Grant Taylor
be removed? -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: State of emergency is now in effect.

2021-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
ut half the times when emerge strongly recommends an immediate oneshot emerge of portage, emerge then refuses to do so. -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: stupifying slowness.

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Alan Grimes wrote: > I'm trying to update my system after 71 days of uptime because I wanna > start moving my stuff into a newer case (current case is 11 years old...) Mine is 19 years old. I hope the aluminum hasn't gone bad. My keyboard is 35 years old... ;) -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/29/21 6:37 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: My brain knows that. My fingers only partially so. I *completely* understand. I now manage to use 'ip addr' instead of ifconfig _most_ of the time. I still almost always use 'route' instead of of 'ip route'. I figure in another 20 years, I will have

[gentoo-user] Re: mounting USB without root password

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I uncommented in: sudoers (it works) > %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL > %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL Wow. That seems extremely dangerous to me... -- Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote: > iproute2 has supplanted the venerable net-tools (or whatever it's > called); ifconfig, route, netstat, etc. My brain knows that. My fingers only partially so. > I sort of put pressure on my self to start using them 20 years ago, > and la

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/28/21 7:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: I think that's probably right. I had never used the 'ip route' command like that and was unaware that route existed. *nod* iproute2 has supplanted the venerable net-tools (or whatever it's called); ifconfig, route, netstat, etc. I sort of put

[gentoo-user] Re: Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-29, Grant Taylor wrote: > My understanding -- which may be wrong, and please correct me if you > think it is -- is that this special route (#2) is how the kernel sends > the entire 127/8 network to the lo adapter, even if the IP addresses > aren't bound to the adapt

Re: [gentoo-user] Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/28/21 5:38 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: I've just recently realized something about the "lo" interface. I don't think this is as much about the interface as it is the routes that are created. (More below.) You can bind a socket to any 127.0.0.N address, even though only 1

[gentoo-user] Bind to 127.0.0.N for any N

2021-01-28 Thread Grant Edwards
n't even need to have 127.0.0.1/8 listed in /etc/config/net... -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] network bonding in gentoo/openrc

2021-01-18 Thread Grant Taylor
check the syntax. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-14 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/13/21 6:25 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: Some of the above are shadowed by readline or by bash in emacs mode, but the tty driver uses more than a few control keys. Thank you for the clarification / additional information. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-14, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 1/13/21 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I really should try to figure out a control-character that's not used >> by emacs or the tty driver > > I think there are very few, if any, keys used by the TTY driver. I > suspect you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/13/21 4:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: I really should try to figure out a control-character that's not used by emacs or the tty driver I think there are very few, if any, keys used by the TTY driver. I suspect you are thinking of the line editor in the shell, e.g. readline. I can see how

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 22:15:25 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> FWOW, if you really want backscrolling on the console, you can get >> that with screen, but doing so would drive me nuts, since I'd have to >> break all my fingers t

[gentoo-user] Re: Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
d be nice if I could print out my fingers' assignment table to find an unused control character, but that doesn't seem to be how it works. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Taylor
On 1/13/21 2:56 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Grant. Hi Alan, Well, there's really not much that can't be done in a terminal emulator. But it's the manner of the doing that's important. Okay. I can appreciate and respect that response. Doing text work in X is s l u g g i s h

[gentoo-user] Re: python3 question

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
be in line1 or line2!!! ] > > seems to work. At least, I got some other errors now ;-) What encoding is your editor using? -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Taylor
as it does things that other terminal emulators have never heard of. Please share if you do things that /can/ be done in the Linux console that /can't/ be done in a terminal emulator. If it's just preference, then hat's off to you. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

[gentoo-user] Re: python3 question

2021-01-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-13, n952162 wrote: > Hello. In python3, how do you do this? Please explain what "this" is trying to accomplish, and we can tell you how to do it in Python3. Are you trying to convert from Unicode to Latin1 and back to Unicode? Python 3.8.6 (default, Jan 2 2021, 20:25:58) [GCC

[gentoo-user] Re: ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libpthread.so

2021-01-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-08, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've noticed that when linking an applicatoin I now get warnings like this: > > /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: skipping incompatible > /usr/lib/libpthread.so when searching for -lpthread > /usr/lib/gcc/[...]/x86_64-pc-l

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