[gentoo-user] New Server, considering hardened, need pointers to tfm...

2011-12-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I'm considering rolling out a new server with gentoo, but wanted to base it on the hardened profile, but the docs I've read so far all seem to be a bit vague about all the details. I've been using gentoo for a while on my hobby server, but I installed it about 8 years ago, and

Re: [gentoo-user] New Server, considering hardened, need pointers to tfm...

2011-12-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-12-10 3:07 PM, Matthew Finkel matthew.fin...@gmail.com wrote: You may be able to get a better response from the -hardened list, Dang, I had forgotten gentoo has a bunch of other lists... thanks, just subscribed... but I built a hardened server a few months ago without much

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-06 Thread Tanstaafl
Ugh Guess if Gentoo ever removes Grub1 I'll have to switch to Lilo or something else - I loathe complicated, especially when there is no good reason... On 2011-10-06 8:51 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Grant Edwardsgrant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes: I've only used it on

Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?

2011-07-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-07-06 3:27 AM, Dale wrote: But again, it didn't lock up until AFTER I had a power failure. That was when all this started. If I hadn't had the power failure, I may not have had the lock ups to begin with. The root of this problem is what I am hoping to find. More than once I have

[gentoo-user] rkhunter --propupd not working since last updates installed

2011-06-27 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I have had rkhunter installed for a long time, been working well, system was reporting clean... On Saturday I did an emerge -uDN world and installed the available updates (not a huge amount), then on Sunday morning, got a report about 6 files whose properties had changed, and I realized I

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

2011-06-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-17 3:36 AM, Cahn Roger wrote: Since this night I found something important: the little box put in the socket wall from where the cable goes out, doesn't no more work!!! Wow... All of this wasted bandwidth and you are just *now* getting around to mentioning that you are using a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sshd no longer starting when it should.

2011-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-08 5:09 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes, that stuff can get confusing and it's easy to get it mixed up. Te way it's done is the only really sane way - consider how it would play out if the setting was a value or a list of possibilities - you couldn't put a commented example in there

Re: [gentoo-user] IPv6 not ready here; Hmmm

2011-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-08 9:25 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: After that, machines on my local network (including wifi) can get both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses from the router and can talk to the outside world on either network. I'm getting a headache... Is there a decent guide that explains IPV6 for noobs who

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 6:34 AM, Indi wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Believe it or not you are supposed to make invisible all the junk the app created. Dunno what that means... you have to tell it where to store Drafts, Trash, Sent messages, etc - what is so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 7:19 AM, Indi wrote: Anyone can point to a google search, smartass. :) I've been called worse... ;) Of course, the search turns up nothing that works for tbird3. It doesn't state specifically, but the very first hit works fine for 3.1.10 for me... Do you *really* imagine I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 7:22 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's a minor gripe, to be sure, but a well-rounded release could have shown a dialog to the user and asking them to select the various folders to use. Or even if it finds Trash and expected to find Junk or Deleted Items it could use what is there.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 8:26 AM, Indi wrote: It forces one to log into the IMAP server manually and restore order, as the configuration dialog gives no way of doing that. Then, making sure tbird is not running, one must go into ~/.thunderbird/, find the files that specify IMAp and local folders,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 8:44 AM, Indi wrote: You need to realize you're giving advice about the windows version of thunderbird. IOW you can stop now! As I said, there is nothing indicating that userChrome.css hacks are not cross-platform. I really did think they were. Also, I *did* state in my initial

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 10:48 AM, Indi wrote: At one point it was far more specific with a number of individual fonts listed, not one of them worked. Did you make the change while Thunderbird was running? As I said, changes to userChromes.css MUST be done while it is NOT running, otherwise they WILL

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: thunderbird fixed folders? [SOLVED]

2011-06-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-06 11:16 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: All you have to do is first tell Thunderbird which folders you want to use: Tools Accounts Settings Copies Folders For Trash: Tools Accounts Settings Server Settings When I delete a message: 2 different locations to configure the

Re: [gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl
:18:57 : ~ # grep stratum /var/log/messages myhost : Sun Jun 05, 11:04:24 : ~ # On 2011-06-04 9:47 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, finally took the plunge, and as everyone else said it was pretty much anti-climactic... However, I'm getting the following error when starting sntp that I wasn't before

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote: Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an instant, unlike many others. My experiences with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 06/04/2011 02:59 PM, Indi wrote: Maybe I'll put the next person who complains about evolution on thunderbird and see how they do with it... I absolutely love Thunderbird, but with one caveat... I love it because of its stability, how well it does IMAP, but most importantly, how

[gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, finally took the plunge, and as everyone else said it was pretty much anti-climactic... However, I'm getting the following error when starting sntp that I wasn't before in rc.log: * Setting clock via the NTP client 'sntp' ... 4 Jun 09:34:15 sntp[1626]: Started sntp 4 Jun 09:34:15

Re: [gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-04 10:02 AM, Indi wrote: Using ntp-client here, works just fine. Hmmm... what runlevel do you have ntdp set to? Mine is 'default'...

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox + kernel panic 2.6.38-r2

2011-05-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-31 1:31 PM, James wrote: The only thing I've read online that may be applicable is that there have been some issues with kernel panics when you give the guest OS more than 1 processor. It would suck badly if SMP didn't work well on vbox. My understanding is it is a general rule

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-29 8:28 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so - why don't you get a router that ONLY does the routing and a nice good switch where you can tag the vlans? Money/knowledge level? I don't know how to do it, so I was looking for something that will work that I can do myself, that is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-28 8:42 PM, Gregory Shearman wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, Todd Goodman wrote: * Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org [110528 12:43]: Anyone? Will one of the FLOSS builds for the cheap Cable/DSL routers support VLANs on the different built-in router ports (ie, Tomato, DD-WRT

[gentoo-user] Baselayout2/OpenRC migration question - dispatch-conf vs etc-update

2011-05-28 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Ok, I'm about to do the deed, but was concerned about one thing... The migration guide only mentions using dispatch-conf after performing the update... I have only/always used etc-update for all the years I've been using gentoo, and would really, REALLY prefer not to use a new/unfamiliar

[gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-28 Thread Tanstaafl
After seeing an older thread asking about a router, I figured I'd ask my own question... I'm looking for a cheap but reliable router that has decent and SIMPLE way to add VLANs (I'm not a CISCO guy and don't want to have to become one)... Specifically, I want to have one VLAN that my wireless

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-12 5:46 PM, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Tanstaafl did opine thusly: If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct that all I need to worry about is /, since

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-13 4:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: KDE3 was fine as it was. I think that pretty much sums it up... No one forced anyone to upgrade to 4.0 when it was released. Anyone (you) could have continued using 3.x until *you* were satisfied with 4.x...

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-15 10:05 AM, pk wrote: (I'm not happy with my current mail client either [Thunderbird]). Why not? It isn't perfect, but is by far the best GUI+IMAP client I've found... Maybe you didn't know you could highlight the test you want to include in your reply, and it will include *only*

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video) (Fixed!)

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-15 10:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Why setup didn't get this right via emerge I have no idea, unless it didn't actually do anything toward actually setting Grub up. If so, it could be there was already some mismatched Grub code there already from a previous use of the sectors there

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-16 7:38 AM, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:47:59AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On that note - I think I asked this a few months ago - I'm assuming I could continue using the old baselayout for a while, if I wanted, emerging updates (skipping the baselayout/OpenRC

[gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-12 Thread Tanstaafl
Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct that all I need to worry about is /, since /etc is located there? In other words, is anything on /usr or /var

Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior

2011-01-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-01-05 7:21 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: A ton of crap broke with the PHP 5.2 - 5.3 upgrade. In theory, this will help with future upgrades; but I'm not sure how, since I can't *run* both versions at the same time. Does anyone know how having 5.3 installed will help me when I'm stuck

[gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
Greetings, I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1 installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in /etc/passwd... Can I just change it directly (by editing the file with a text editor) without worrying about anything breaking? Currently it is:

Re: [gentoo-user] postfixadmin vacation user uid/home in /etc/passwd

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-29 3:50 PM, kashani wrote: On 12/29/2010 9:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm updating an old system I inherited that has postfixadmin 2.1 installed, and I have a question about the vacation user entry in /etc/passwd... snip I would consider a plan to upgrade to 2.3.2, I guess I could

Re: [gentoo-user] perl 5.12 downgrade ??

2010-10-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-28 9:39 AM, Graham Murray wrote: The 'XXX is depreciated messages are not normally errors. They are just to inform you that the script is using a depreciated feature and that unless it is changed (to use a non depreciated mechanism) that it will stop working in a future version.

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade: Active gcc profile is invalid!

2010-10-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-19 1:45 PM, Jarry wrote: Hi, I just tried to upgrade gcc (stable amd64, from 4.4.3-r2 to 4.4.4-r2) following the procedure recommended in Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide: ? Current stable gcc is 4.4.3-r2 on amd64?

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about selecting ebuilds from local overlay

2010-10-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-15 4:00 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I have a dim memory of some recent blog post somewhere. One of the alternate package managers has better support for this kind of thing than portage. Not paludis, rather something with cave in it's name Cave is part of paludis... I've been

[gentoo-user] Does updating grub require mounting /boot first?

2010-10-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I'm ready to update grub, but just realized I'm not sure if I need to mount /boot before I emerge update it or not... Anyone?

Re: [gentoo-user] Does updating grub require mounting /boot first?

2010-10-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-09 1:48 PM, Andrea Conti wrote: On 09/10/2010 18:30, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm ready to update grub, but just realized I'm not sure if I need to mount /boot before I emerge update it or not... /boot must be mounted, but the ebuild will mount it for you if it is not. Thanks - I thought

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Notice: possible past, present and future breakage related to .la files

2010-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-03 12:15 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Yes once 2.1.9.x series of Portage goes stable (i.e.: if all goes well, by November) there won't be any need for adding the snipped; you'll still have to run at least once lafilefixer to avoid keeping stuff around on the system unfixed, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Notice: possible past, present and future breakage related to .la files

2010-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-09-29 6:40 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: First of all, you should install lafilefixer and let it pass through the currently-installed system: # emerge lafilefixer # lafilefixer --justfixit This will convert the references to libtool archives to the -llibname form, which works

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders

2010-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-09-02 3:43 PM, Jim Cunning jcunn...@cunning.ods.org wrote: It appears that the default configuration for MAXPERIP (maximum number of connections to accept from the same IP address) was set to 4. (I assume it's the default, since I never changed it myself.) Changing the value to 10

Re: [gentoo-user] Proper way of updating mysql from 5.0.90-r2 to 5.1.50?

2010-09-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-09-01 5:18 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: I think it's not an urgent problem when this happens. With portage 2.2 and the preserve-libs FEATURE, You are assuming everyone runs unstable portage??

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Progress made, not done yet Re: All of a sudden, no apache2. No clue why.

2010-08-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-08-05 9:25 PM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com mailto:kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I may have found the root of the problem: examine the following output of an eix query on apache, and note that the cgi

Re: [gentoo-user] Facilities for creating Gentoo Linux based virtual appliances

2010-07-29 Thread Tanstaafl
Top posting because I can't contribute anything meaningful inline... Wow, Albert, this looks very, very cool. I have heard of using 'make' and creating your own make files to do things like this, but after a few minutes of perusing these files I realize this is just way over my head, at least

Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-07-03 6:55 AM, Mick wrote: Before TB implemented Reply-To-List, I preferred lists that munged the Reply-To, but no longer. Sometimes I receive a personal email response to a message that I have posted to the list. This seems to happen because the person that kindly responded has for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-07-01 8:54 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: I'm often stucked by the current policy in this mailing list changing the 'Reply-To' header to the mailing list address. Most mailing lists I use don't do that. It is usually better and prefer the answer to all policy -10 this is plain

[gentoo-user] Legacy GRUB vs GRUB2

2010-06-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-18 12:17 PM, Bill Longman wrote: And finally, don't even mention how braindead the new improved grub is. I wonder how anyone can feel that having to write six paragraphs in some one-off bash-like language, which needs to be debugged, is better than four lines in a config file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anything better than procmail?

2010-06-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-13 6:37 PM, David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:20:02 +0200, Tanstaafl wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Anything better than procmail?: On 2010-06-12 5:17 PM, David W Noon wrote: I wanted the messages to be stored in a single, dedicated logical volume in my DASD farm

Re: [gentoo-user] Anything better than procmail?

2010-06-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-14 9:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:15:43 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: That said... does anyone know of a repo that provides good quality up to date builds of dovecot - maybe even including the 2.0 betas? How about the portage tree, which goes up to 2.0 bets 5

Re: [gentoo-user] Anything better than procmail?

2010-06-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-12 5:17 PM, David W Noon wrote: On 12 Jun 2010, at 12:35, David W Noon wrote: ... Dovecot, but quickly replaced by dbmail. Can I ask you why? Certainly. I wanted the messages to be stored in a single, dedicated logical volume in my DASD farm. Dovecot always stored them in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-09 11:08 AM, Dale wrote: If I recall correctly, there are a few programs that can run with python 3. Thing is, there are still a LOT of them that can't run with it and must have python 2. If you switch to python 3, you will have a mess on your hands. If nothing actually requires

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-09 12:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:21:17 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: I'm guessing it won't hurt anything, again as long as I don't stupidly switch to it? Right. And if a script specifically wants Python 3, it is there for it to use. Cool, thanks guys...

Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix question about auth and blocklists...

2010-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-27 1:06 PM, Brandon Vargo wrote: You mentioned in your first mail that you use Dovecot. The easiest way to setup SASL for Postfix is to have Postfix authenticate against Dovecot, +1, with one caveat - it doesn't work in client mode, only server mode... I also recommend adding the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-13 7:21 PM, walt wrote: AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after installing all the bug fixes and service packs Ok, either you are joking (but the wording doesn't make that very clear), or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-14 8:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:34:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after installing all the bug fixes and service packs Ok, either

Re: [gentoo-user] Mailman - /usr/local/mailman still used?

2010-05-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-11 6:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: My question is, is *anything* in /usr/local/mailman still used by mailman? Or can I safely rm -r that entire directory? No other mailman users out there?

[gentoo-user] Mailman - /usr/local/mailman still used?

2010-05-11 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Some time ago one of the mailman minor updates (2.1.9-r3) introduced major changes with the location of lists and archives from /usr/local/mailman to /var/lib/mailman... My question is, is *anything* in /usr/local/mailman still used by mailman? Or can I safely rm -r that entire directory?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-05-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 2:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:37:40 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Like I said, I have a bunch of *individual* logs (for individual ebuilds)... I was hoping for something a little easier to manage/read, all in one file... My preferred approach is to add mail

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-04-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 1:56 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Understand what the gcc upgrade guide is: a quick simple guide for user who don't know tool chains inside out, that give the minimal sequence of commands that is GUARANTEED to NOT leave the user in the lurch. It's not the minimum possible

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-04-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 2:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: My preferred approach is to add mail to PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM to get each elog message mailed to me. That's still separate message, but I think that's better as I can mark each one read as I've actioned it, leaving me with a clear list of what's left

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Setting up a fall back ISP SMTP in sendmail

2010-04-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 6:27 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 18 April 2010 22:06:44 Mick wrote: I was reminded that I do not understand sendmail enough for my liking. Does anybody? flame-protect That's why Wietse invented postfix. /flame-protect -- Charles

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-17 6:29 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-17 6:06 PM, Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 04/17/10 17:09, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-17 4:59 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: emerge system -gcc (where '-gcc' serves to tell portage to compile everything *but* gcc)? Of course I meant: emerge -e

[gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
I must be missing something obvious... When updating gcc, and thus emerging -e both system and world, where are the info/warn/errors logged? I see a whole bunch of separate/individual logs ion /var/log/portage/elog, but what I'm looking for is a single, easily readable log of all of the result

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 11:38 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I must be missing something obvious... When updating gcc, and thus emerging -e both system and world, where are the info/warn/errors logged? I see a whole bunch of separate/individual logs ion /var/log/portage/elog, but what I'm looking

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 11:45 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: well... you could use --keep-going and kill something when gcc compiles. not very nice, but will work without breaking anything. Dang - I already started the emerge... I'm surprised there's no easy way to do this... I guess just because you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 11:54 AM, Arttu V. wrote: On 4/18/10, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: You could try temporarily masking it: #echo sys-devel/gcc /etc/portage/package.mask Then updating: #emerge -e system Then removing the mask: #sed -i '$d' /etc/portage/package.mask I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 11:57 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-18 11:45 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: well... you could use --keep-going and kill something when gcc compiles. not very nice, but will work without breaking anything. Hmmm... clarification though... when you say 'kill something'... how would I

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 12:29 PM, YoYo siska wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:57:48AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-18 11:45 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: well... you could use --keep-going and kill something when gcc compiles. not very nice, but will work without breaking anything. Dang - I

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 1:11 PM, Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 04/18/10 11:00, Tanstaafl wrote: Crap, doesn't look like this will work... After masking gcc (and glibc - same argument there), I get: emerge -pev world snip !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy virtual/libc have been masked. !!! One

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -e system - output info/errors to log

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 1:05 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 18 April 2010 17:38:19 Tanstaafl wrote: I must be missing something obvious... When updating gcc, and thus emerging -e both system and world Why are you doing that? Because it wasn't a minor bugfix update? I'm going from 4.1.2 to 4.3.4

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 1:09 PM, YoYo siska wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:52:26PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-18 12:29 PM, YoYo siska wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:57:48AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-18 11:45 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: well... you could use --keep-going and kill

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 3:57 PM, YoYo siska wrote: Will etc-update still prompt for all necessary changes for config files for *all* of the installs done, considering I did ctrl-c 3 times (glibc, and both gcc's)? yes, if new config files got installed, etc-update will show them (I think it uses 'find'

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-18 1:58 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:00:40 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: After masking gcc (and glibc - same argument there), I get: emerge -pev world snip Total: 351 packages (351 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 5 kB Portage tree and overlays: [0] /usr/portage

[gentoo-user] System clean-up - removing unneeded packages *and* dependencies not used by other packages

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Subject says it all... I've had openldap installed on my system since forever but never used it (always meant to, but honestly I really don't need it). Now I'm wanting to uninstall unused stuff before switching gcc versions and recompiling system and world. Whats the best way to uninstall a

Re: [gentoo-user] System clean-up - removing unneeded packages *and* dependencies not used by other packages

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-17 3:42 PM, KH wrote: Am 17.04.2010 21:30, schrieb Jarry: On 17. 4. 2010 21:20, Tanstaafl wrote: Whats the best way to uninstall a package - in this case, openldap, but really for any package - and get all of the dependencies it pulls in, but only ones that are not required

[gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Is there a way to emerge, say, system, but omit one package in it? For example, I've already recompiled gcc 4.3.4 with itself... is there a way to now do something like: emerge system -gcc (where '-gcc' serves to tell portage to compile everything *but* gcc)? Its not a big deal, I'm just

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-17 4:59 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: emerge system -gcc (where '-gcc' serves to tell portage to compile everything *but* gcc)? Of course I meant: emerge -e system -gcc

[gentoo-user] Recompiling tthe kernel seems way too fast?

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, maybe I'm missing something... The first time I compile a kernel, it takes at least 4 or 5 minutes, if not longer (never really timed it)... But, I just switched my compiler from 4.1.2 to 4.3.4, and wanted to recompile the kernel, so, I change to the /usr/src/kernel dir and ran make again,

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompile system but omit package?

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-17 6:06 PM, Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 04/17/10 17:09, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-17 4:59 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: emerge system -gcc (where '-gcc' serves to tell portage to compile everything *but* gcc)? Of course I meant: emerge -e system -gcc You could try temporarily

Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling tthe kernel seems way too fast?

2010-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-17 6:31 PM, Alexander Tanyukevich wrote: If you want to compile whole kernel with new compiler you should run make clean first. Crap, I remember that now... thanks for taking it easy with the cluestick... ;) -- Charles

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables - do I need the nat table?

2010-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-11 9:20 AM, Graham Murray wrote: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org writes: I'm a bit clueless when it comes to firewalls, and have no idea what these numbers mean/do: *raw :PREROUTING ACCEPT [4911:886011] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [4546:2818732] COMMIT The numbers are [packets:bytes

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-12 11:05 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I use the --keep-going always, it was a great addition and especially helpful when there is a bad package that won't compile for a week or two, it makes it easier to just ignore it. Hopefully no one will mind a slight OT question, but still

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-12 12:23 PM, Dale wrote: +1 I been using the latest portage for a long time too. I don't recall any problems with it and the new features sure do help. If you keyword portage, you need to do the same for its friends. Mainly gentoolkit and eix. They seem to go together better.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables - do I need the nat table?

2010-04-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-10 10:26 PM, Kerin Millar wrote: On 10/04/2010 23:17, Tanstaafl wrote: This is on a server box, and I am *not* doing NAT on it... Do I even need the nat table? If not, I'd like to build the kernel without NAT support, but if there's a good reason not to do that, I won't

[gentoo-user] Strange ReiserFS errors in logs...

2010-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
I was doing some updates and getting ready for my gcc switch, and in the process saw these two errors pop-up in the logs: Apr 10 15:31:10 myhost kernel: ReiserFS: dm-1: warning: vs-8115: get_num_ver: not directory or indirect item Apr 10 15:31:10 myhost kernel: ReiserFS: dm-1: warning: vs-8115:

[gentoo-user] iptables - do I need the nat table?

2010-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, This is on a server box, and I am *not* doing NAT on it... Do I even need the nat table? If not, I'd like to build the kernel without NAT support, but if there's a good reason not to do that, I won't... Thanks -- Charles

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple versions of automake?

2010-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 4:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2010-03-10 12:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: equery can be unreliable. If emerge --depclean -a wants to remove one of both of them, let it, otherwise leave well alone. How

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-09 8:36 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: Today is when running a lilo menu with production and experimental kernels saved me. production is 2.6.30-r8. experimental is 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one). I set /usr/src/linux to point at 2.6.31-r6 (or 10), copied .config

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 8:38 AM, Dale wrote: I use make oldconfig all the time and have only had problems with it once. I would trust make oldconfig looong before I would even think to trust genkernel. I have never got it to work for me. Using make oldconfig should be fine for the OP. My point is,

[gentoo-user] Multiple versions of automake?

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I currently have 3 versions of automake installed (1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r3, and 1.10.2). emerge -pvuDN world shows an update available for each one, but, my question is, do I need all 3 versions? 'equery depends automake' shows 44 packages, all depending on 1.10* or higher. So, can I safely

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 8:47 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:22:41 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Today is when running a lilo menu with production and experimental kernels saved me. production is 2.6.30-r8. experimental is 2.6.31-r6 or 2.6.31-r10 (same problems with either one). I set

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:07 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: The current opinion of the current author of the kernel upgrade guide says what you quoted. It's his opinion, it's what he thinks will work best for the majority of people. It's probably also the wording that has been proven to result in the least

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:09 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Whatever the guide says, the third part of the kernel version is considered the minor revision, anything after that is a patch level. Gotcha - and I guess I was using those terms in my own way - the guide didn't use the word major or minor - I just

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 9:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: But... my understanding is that, by copying your old .config to the new kernel dir before running make menuconfig, you *are* reusing your old config... I sure hope I'm not reading *that* wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multiple versions of automake?

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 1:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: And this means multiple automake versions on the system are perfectly normal. Ok, that's what I needed to hear... :) Thanks Nikos... -- Charles

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple versions of automake?

2010-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-10 12:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: equery can be unreliable. If emerge --depclean -a wants to remove one of both of them, let it, otherwise leave well alone. Understood, thanks... Just to be sure... the -a in the 'emerge --depclean -a' above will 'ask' me if I want to continue and

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple Update Issues - what order should things be done?

2010-03-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-07 1:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 20:39:05 Tanstaafl wrote: Baselayout2 is still not stable, so, yes, I'm still on baselayout1, and now you've gone and made me nervous again. ;) Are you suggesting I should already be using it?? You are going to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.31-r6 - where is hot-pluggable device support for udev?

2010-03-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-07 9:14 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: Tanstaafl schrieb: The Gentoo udev guide (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml) says specifically to make sure that: 'General setup --- [*] Support for hot-pluggable devices' is enabled, but I didn't have this option available

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