[gentoo-user] No mail from list
I haven't received any mail from the gentoo-user mailing list for 4 days now. Anyone else having problems with the list? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB w/ external drive (was UUID)
Josh Cepek wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Michael Schmarck wrote: · Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Correct. UUIDs are universally unique (as the name already "suggests" *g*) and thus, there cannot be a clash. Michael Schmarck Any chance that GRUB will ever use these? I have a sata hd carrier and when I reboot with it plugged in, grub sees the disk order differently and gives me problems (I either have to get a grub command line and boot manually or use a Grub boot floppy). As long as your BIOS is passing off control to the correct drive when both are plugged in a boot, what about using GRUB's fallback feature? Say your bootable partition is normally (hd0,0), but with your external drive plugged in the proper partition becomes (hd1,0) instead. You can duplicate your GRUB config with (hd1,0) for the root entry and specify that as a fallback option. Then as long as GRUB gets control your system is still bootable. If the BIOS is trying to boot off the removable drive, I suppose you could install GRUB on it too with a similar setup, but that obviously doesn't scale well beyond a single computer with a known boot configuration. Interesting! This Fallback feature of GRUB bears investigation. Thanks. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Question re: UUID
Michael Schmarck wrote: · Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Correct. UUIDs are universally unique (as the name already "suggests" *g*) and thus, there cannot be a clash. Michael Schmarck Any chance that GRUB will ever use these? I have a sata hd carrier and when I reboot with it plugged in, grub sees the disk order differently and gives me problems (I either have to get a grub command line and boot manually or use a Grub boot floppy). Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Question re: UUID
I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BASIC compilers/Interpreters?
Dan Cowsill wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any BASIC compilers/Interpreters in Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Dude. Google. First hit. I called myself google'ing (gentoo basic) but apparently not good enough. Maybe I need to google google. Thanks. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] BASIC compilers/Interpreters?
Any BASIC compilers/Interpreters in Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package removal error [solved]
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Tony
Found the solution on the forums:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-681785-highlight-texinfo.html?sid=d9c543c9712a9e6e0ab0e8b2c64d7386
Tony
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package removal error
Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 17:10 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Perhaps you could post the pkg_prerm function
in /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild or look at
it yourself so we'd know what it is doing and possibly find our why it's
failing.
-a
No such animal! Here is
/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild
=
# Copyright 1999-2006 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/texinfo/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild,v 1.3
2006/11/10 13:11:25 gustavoz Exp $
inherit flag-o-matic eutils toolchain-funcs
DESCRIPTION="The GNU info program and utilities"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/";
SRC_URI="mirror://gnu/${PN}/${P}.tar.bz2"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc ~ppc-macos
~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh sparc ~sparc-fbsd x86 ~x86-fbsd"
IUSE="nls build static"
RDEPEND="!build? ( >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.2-r2 )
!build? ( nls? ( virtual/libintl ) )"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
!build? ( nls? ( sys-devel/gettext ) )"
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd "${S}"
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-freebsd.patch
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-tempfile-owl.patch #114499
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-bounds-check.patch #140902
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-buf-overflow-CVE-2006-4810.patch #154316
cd doc
# Get the texinfo info page to have a proper name of texinfo.info
sed -i 's:setfilename texinfo:setfilename texinfo.info:' texinfo.txi
sed -i \
-e 's:INFO_DEPS = texinfo:INFO_DEPS = texinfo.info:' \
-e 's:texinfo\::texinfo.info\::' \
Makefile.in
}
src_compile() {
local myconf=
if ! use nls || use build ; then
myconf="--disable-nls"
fi
use static && append-ldflags -static
econf ${myconf} || die
# Cross-compile workaround #133429
if tc-is-cross-compiler ; then
emake -C tools || die "emake tools"
fi
# work around broken dependency's in info/Makefile.am #85540
emake -C lib || die "emake lib"
emake -C info makedoc || die "emake makedoc"
emake -C info doc.c || die "emake doc.c"
emake || die "emake"
}
src_install() {
if use build ; then
newbin util/ginstall-info install-info
dobin makeinfo/makeinfo util/{texi2dvi,texindex}
else
make DESTDIR="${D}" install || die "install failed"
dosbin ${FILESDIR}/mkinfodir
# tetex installs this guy #76812
has_version '"${D}"/usr/bin/texi2pdf
if
[gentoo-user] Package removal error
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Tony
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Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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[gentoo-user] Mozilla-sunbird problem
I have a problem with sunbird (app-office/mozilla-sunbird-0.7). I cannot set the start time of an event. I try to set it and it defaults to 08:30 and is unchangeable. No bug under BGO and no help from Google. Anyone else seen/have this problem? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64
I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got it. I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other compromises (admittedly some minor). I realize I should see some speed increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling. So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sending IMs from a script
Neil Bothwick wrote: > I would have thought this was easy, but I've looked around and can't find > a program that will send IMs from a script. I need to be able to send > alerts to people from a monitoring program. > > > An alternate way to send alerts is to send an email to their mobile phone. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. >> Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard >> install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large >> enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB one. >> > > There's a few reasons: > > 1. The memory used on those devices has a limited life - about 100,000 > writes for the good ones and maybe 10,000 for the bad ones. With a > standard install, frequent writes are the norm (think cache and other > similar things). This usually ends up at the same spot on the disk, > meaning your new install will last about a month if you are lucky. > There are ways around this, for instance how a LiveCD does things. > > 2. Booting off it is a pain. You need drivers for the entire USB stack > at boot time, which usually means a ginormous initrd. > > 3. Size, which you mentioned > > OK. Then maybe a better solution for a compact portable system would be an external HD. In the laptop size (2.5") the enclosure can just about fit in a shirt pocket. And some of them run off the USB interface. Not as small as a thumbdrive but close. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB
I've been looking at LiveUSB's lately, specifically ones for Gentoo. Found one on the Gentoo Documentation and another on Pendrive and several others. Problem is that all of these do not allow you to save changes. Has anyone made a persistent Gentoo LiveUSB? Google hasn't helped here. Most persistents seem to be Ubuntu and involve something called Casper. 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB one. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscription
Kelly Stewart wrote: > Can i please get some help unsubscribing from this mailing list please? > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Send a blank email (no subject necessary) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That should do it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:38:41 + (UTC), James wrote: > > >> There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to >> a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. >> The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). >> > > I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I > didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). > > > What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
Thufir wrote > You don't want my make.conf, do you? > > > > thanks, > > Thufir > > It might help. Thanks. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bookmarks invisible in Firefox fullscreen
Benno Schulenberg wrote: > When the bookmarks list is longer than what fits vertically on the > screen, then hitting Alt+B while Firefox is in fullscreen mode > won't show the list of bookmarks. The bookmark list is there -- > because it is possible to select for example the last entry with > and -- but it is invisible. (When not in fullscreen > mode, such an overlong bookmarks list shows tiny arrows at top and > bottom and will scroll as needed.) > > Is this invisibility just a local phenomenon, or are others "seeing" > this too? > > This is about Firefox-2.0.0.*. It is not the menu-killing bug of 1.* > -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318410 and friends. > > Benno > I see the same thing here. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
Thufir wrote > Also, how were you generating that list, please? > > > > thanks, > > Thufir > > emerge -pv mplayer, for example. Then cut and paste. Would you please post yours so I can compare my USE flags to yours? Thank you, Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
I used to be able to view Nasa-tv (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/) in Firefox with mplayerplug-in. This no longer works however. The plug-in starts to connect then says "Stopped" for any method (windows, realplayer, or quicktime) chosen. I feel that it is a changed use flag but I have the ones that I thought relevant. Here are my builds for for Firefox, mplayer, mplayerplug-in and win32codecs: [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="ipv6 java -bindist -debug -filepicker -gnome -mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 36,633 kB [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc1_p20070824 USE="X a52 alsa dvd encode esd gif gtk iconv ipv6 jpeg mad mmx mp3 opengl oss png quicktime sdl sse sse2 truetype unicode vorbis win32codecs xv -3dnow -3dnowext -aac -aalib (-altivec) -amrnb -amrwb -arts -bidi -bindist -bl -cddb -cdio -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dv -dvb -enca -fbcon -ftp -ggi -ivtv -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -md5sum -mmxext -mp2 -musepack -nas -openal -pnm -pvr -radio -rar -real -rtc -samba -speex -srt -ssse3 -svga -teletext -tga -theora -tivo -v4l -v4l2 -vidix -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid -xvmc -zoran" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia -i810 -mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa" 7,762 kB [ebuild R ] net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.45 USE="divx gtk nls quicktime realmedia wmp -gmedia (-mplayer-bin)" LINGUAS="en_US -da -de -es -fr -hu -it -ja -ko -nb -nl -pl -pt_BR -ru -se -zh_CN" 223 kB [ebuild R ] media-libs/win32codecs-20071007-r2 USE="real" 13,540 kB Does anyone have any suggestions? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Chroot question
Dan Farrell wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:33:15 -0600 > "Anthony E. Caudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I have an AMD64 chip and have separate Gentoo x86 and x86_64 distros. >> Gentoo has a "32Bit Chroot Guide for Gentoo/AMD64" but this guide only >> discusses setting up a separate 32bit environment within the 64bit >> Gentoo. I was wondering if it could be used, suitably modified, to >> chroot from my x86_64 bit distro to my x86 distro. Will it mess up >> one or the other? >> > > No, they won't effect each other, but isn't this generally how a > multi-lib system is done? I read a howto years ago but got bored > halfway through, and since I didn't need it anyway, I gave up. > > Good point. I don't know the difference between chroot'ing and multilib (well, I know the difference but I don't the advantages/disadvantages of each). The reason I want to be able to chroot is that I want to be able run "make menuconfig" in each distro in order to view, side-by-side the configuration of the kernels. The x86 distro is my "production" distro but I want to configure and tune the x86_64 kernel to be as close to the x86 kernel as possible. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Chroot question
I have an AMD64 chip and have separate Gentoo x86 and x86_64 distros. Gentoo has a "32Bit Chroot Guide for Gentoo/AMD64" but this guide only discusses setting up a separate 32bit environment within the 64bit Gentoo. I was wondering if it could be used, suitably modified, to chroot from my x86_64 bit distro to my x86 distro. Will it mess up one or the other? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
Stroller wrote: > > On 5 Nov 2007, at 05:17, Jarry wrote: > >> Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >>> How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, >>> sdb, etc.) when it boots up? >> >> I just checked my computer, and sda is the drive plugged in >> the first sata-port, and sdb the one in the second port >> (according to the info in motherboard manual). >> >> Maybe it is something similar as with p-ata drives, where hda >> is always the master drive on the first pata channel... > > What he said. > > But if you're having a problem with it, or want to change the driver > order, then take a poke around in /etc/udev/rules.d/. > > Stroller. But would this be relevant? The kernel boot order is set at boot time, long before udev comes up. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
Jarry wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, >> sdb, etc.) when it boots up? > > I just checked my computer, and sda is the drive plugged in > the first sata-port, and sdb the one in the second port > (according to the info in motherboard manual). > > Maybe it is something similar as with p-ata drives, where hda > is always the master drive on the first pata channel... > > Jarry For my mobo (Asus A8N-SLI Premium), sda is plugged into SATA slot 3. Interestingly, it is NOT the first drive listed in the BIOS either. I think, but not sure, that the kernel looks at the buses to determine the drive order. Maybe someone can confirm? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, sdb, etc.) when it boots up? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question re desktop-file-utils
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 22:19:23 Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> On several emerges I see the message " >> >> Install dev-util/desktop-file-utils, if you want to help to improve >> Gentoo." >> >> Can't really tell what this package does but how does it help Gentoo? >> > > It validates .desktop files. If installed Gentoo uses this to print an elog > message for .desktop files that doesn't follow the specs. Obviously it only > helps Gentoo if you make sure it gets reported at bugs.gentoo.org whenever > you encounter messages about invalid .desktop entries in packages in the > tree... > > Okay, a good thing. Will install. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question re desktop-file-utils
On several emerges I see the message " Install dev-util/desktop-file-utils, if you want to help to improve Gentoo." Can't really tell what this package does but how does it help Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean question
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I have just used depclean for the first time (I was afraid of it) after > several years of Gentoo. It has cleaned up my system a good bit but now > it wants to remove some packages that I'm concerned about: > > gcc-3.4.6-r2 (I'm using 4.1.2) > libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 and virtual/libstdc++ > virtual/jdk and virual/jre (it leaves the later versions in both cases) > qt-4.1.4-r2 (leaving qt-3.3.8-r4) > several early versions of db leaving db-4.5.20_p2 > and a few others > > How much danger is there if I remove these? > > Tony > > Well, went ahead and finished --depclean. No more packages to remove and revdep-rebuild is happy. Ah! I feel like I just had a nice hot bath and I'm squeaky clean! I LOVE Gentoo... Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Depclean question
I have just used depclean for the first time (I was afraid of it) after several years of Gentoo. It has cleaned up my system a good bit but now it wants to remove some packages that I'm concerned about: gcc-3.4.6-r2 (I'm using 4.1.2) libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 and virtual/libstdc++ virtual/jdk and virual/jre (it leaves the later versions in both cases) qt-4.1.4-r2 (leaving qt-3.3.8-r4) several early versions of db leaving db-4.5.20_p2 and a few others How much danger is there if I remove these? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weatherbug for linux
Weather has just released a beta app for linux. Check it out - http://linux.weatherbug.com/ Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
Nick wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 07:40:34AM +0200, Peter Gantner (nephros) wrote: > >> Thu, 27 Sep 2007 quidam 'Anthony E. Caudel' inquit ita: >> >> >>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the >>> US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in >>> the states. >>> >>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer? >>> >> An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere on >> the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely illegal >> in your country under the DMCA. >> > > rpc1.org would be a good bet for the firmware route, which I'd > recommend (AFAIK breaking css is illegal under the dmca anyway, so > I can't see this as being a much bigger legal issue than playing any > encrypted DVD under Linux). IANAL, of course. If in doubt, move to > Finland. > > -Nick > > Can't find rpcl.org -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Hello Iain Buchanan, > > >> hey, stop answering, this was to Neil! >> > > Hey! ! was asleep! :) > > As Alexander has already posted, you still need sys-fs/fuse to provide > the libraries, but it defers to the kernel for the modules (which saves > rebuilding it each time you change the kernel). > > > Ok, I had read it that I did _NOT_ need sys-fs/fuse. I will re-emerge fuse. Thanks all for your input. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g
Neil, back on 15 July, you stated that you used ntfs-3g with only the in-kernel fuse modules. When I try that, I get the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I find I have to use sys-fs/fuse to be able to mount ntfs-3g. Is there something else I should be doing? I'm using kernel 2.6.22 -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Mplayer question
forgottenwizard wrote: > On 19:34 Thu 27 Sep , Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2007-09-27, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the >>> US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in >>> the states. >>> >>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer? >>> >> Dunno, but I expect so. >> >> I've played other-regioned PAL dvds in xine, so I see no reason >> why mplayer won't work as well. >> >> -- >> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT >> at for QUICHE!! >>visi.com >> >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> >> >> > > I would check mplayer's website for this kind of info. It should, but > that would give you a better idea. > > Checked the website and it seems to be totally DVD player dependent, something mplayer can't control. It did point to a program to change the region code however. Bummer, I had hoped mplayer had found a way around that problem. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in the states. Will the DVD play in Mplayer? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Bash question
Frank Gruellich wrote: > * Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20. Sep 07: > >> Is there any way to make "pushd" and "popd" (Bash built-ins) silent? >> [snip] For example: >> >> OLD_VER=$(pushd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1; popd) >> echo $OLD_VER >> /boot ~ kernel-2.6.22-gentoo-r2 ~ >> > > For that exact example... why you bother at all? $( ) opens a subshell > and cd's in subshells don't interact with parent shell so you could > simply write: > > OLD_VER=$(cd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1) > > or > > OLD_VER=`cd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1` > > if you want to be more compatible. Or am I missing a point? > > HTH, kind regards, > Frank. > Thanks, Frank. That is the best solution. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Bash question
Is there any way to make "pushd" and "popd" (Bash built-ins) silent? As it is, when the execute, the directory is echoed to the output, making it difficult to use the commands in a script. For example: OLD_VER=$(pushd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1; popd) echo $OLD_VER /boot ~ kernel-2.6.22-gentoo-r2 ~ The /boot and the tildes are returned by pushd and popd and mess up the script. There doesn't seem to be any options to turn off the echo off and shopt has nothing in it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Minor udev bug?
Just updated udev to 114 and it left me an einfo with the following: "You still have the directory /etc/dev.d on your system. This is no longer used by udev and can be removed." However I _DO NOT_ have an /etc/dev.d. Should I file a bug report on this? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Bibble Pro 4
Has anyone used the Linux version of the Bibble photo editing software? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-fs/fuse question
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:49:28 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I use ntfs-3g to access my windows partition and ntfs-3g needs the fuse module. Does sys-fs/fuse need to be re-emerged (and thus re-compiled) after every kernel upgrade? Enable the in-kernel fuse module then sys-fs/fuse will only build the userspace files, not the module, so you won't need to recompile it. CONFIG_FUSE_FS=m Thanks Neil, that's what I was looking for. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] sys-fs/fuse question
I use ntfs-3g to access my windows partition and ntfs-3g needs the fuse module. Does sys-fs/fuse need to be re-emerged (and thus re-compiled) after every kernel upgrade? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:33:43 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>
At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't
be doing it that often. Once you're happy with the current kernel,
you only need "emerge -P gentoo-sources" to remove the rest. I use
a script that removes all but the last two, and also cleans
out /lib/modules and /boot.
>>> Neil, any chance we could get that script?
>> Provided you have gentoolkit something as simple as this works:
>>
>> # emerge -Cva $(equery -q list gentoo-sources | head -n -2)
>
> That only cleans out /usr/src, it's slightly different to what I use
> (which rm's the directories first to speed things up) but does basically
> the same. You also need to clear out /lib/modules and /boot with
>
> Here's the script I use, which is guaranteed to work when it doesn't
> fail. When it does break, you can keep the pieces.
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # clean /lib/modules
> cd /lib/modules
> ls -1rt | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
>
> # clean /boot
> grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab && mount /boot -o remount,rw
>
> cd /boot
> ls -1rt config-* | head -n -2 | while read f; do
> bzip2 -9 $f
> mv $f.bz2 oldconfigs/
> done
>
> ls -1rt System.map-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> if [ -f vmlinux ]; then
> ls -1rt vmlinux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> else
> ls -1rt vmlinuz-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> fi
>
> # clean /usr/src
> cd /usr/src
> ls -1drt linux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
> equery --quiet --nocolor list --duplicates gentoo-sources | awk '{print $1}'
> | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty emerge --unmerge &>/dev/null
>
> grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab && mount /boot -o remount,ro
> # END
>
> The vmlinuz/vmlinux stuff is because I have a PPC system too, which calls the
> kernel vmlinux.
>
>
Thanks Neil.
Tony
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the average age of the gentoo user here? > Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone �éí¢‹¬z¸ žÚ(¢¸&j)bž bst== I'm 64. Gentoo since 1999. I started with CP/M on a processor Technology SOL-20 in 1979 or 1980. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Neil Bothwick wrote: > At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't be > doing it that often. Once you're happy with the current kernel, you only > need "emerge -P gentoo-sources" to remove the rest. I use a script that > removes all but the last two, and also cleans out /lib/modules and /boot. > Neil, any chance we could get that script? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] opening movies in the current mplayer window
Alex Fansky wrote: > Hello. > I am using kde-3.5.6 and gmplayer as frontend to mplayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2. When I > doubleclick on the video file, it is opened in new mplayer window. Is there > any ways to make it be played in already runned mplayer instead of previously > opened movie, like it do MS Windows video players? You might drag it to the open mplayer. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel randomly locking up, no error messeges, no panics nothing.
Ivan Lucian Aron wrote: > I turned off Preempt Big Kernel Lock earlier today, and haven't had a > deadlock/crash since. > Apparently that solved it.. thanks for the help/support I have an AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+ and Have the "Preempt Big Kernel Lock" turned on in my 2.6.19 kernel and have experienced no problems. Don't know if that helps or hurts but just thought I'd let you know. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] System reporting information
Sorry that the subject is not very informative. I seem to remember some time back some discussion about a script or program that would examine a gentoo system and create a report on packages installed, make.conf contents, and other relevant information that might be of help to the devs. No personal info would be collected. Am I imagining this? Would this info be of help to the devs? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 30 January 2007 18:26, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: snip And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages available. It takes around 15 hours :( So when are the Openoffice people going to break it into separate packages (Write, Calc, etc.) like KDE did? This would get rid of that nonsense of 15 hrs for a single package build. haha, good joke, nice one, you just made my day. Oh wait, you mean you're serious? Erm, well, I once did have a peek into the OOo makefiles and what I saw there was scary. If no-one has had the courage so far to separate out the packages, I really wouldn't hold it against them. alan LOL! Hadn't realized it was that bad. Wonder who the culprit is? The original German group that wrote it or Sun when they got their hands on it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Neil Bothwick wrote: snip And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages available. It takes around 15 hours :( So when are the Openoffice people going to break it into separate packages (Write, Calc, etc.) like KDE did? This would get rid of that nonsense of 15 hrs for a single package build. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Puzzling logwatch entry
I am using Logwatch (logwatch-7.3-r1) and lately have been getting these messages: - Kernel module scsi Begin **Unmatched Entries** SCSI subsystem initialized 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) -- Kernel module scsi End - I have 2 SATA drives (320MB each) and am using kernel 2.6.18. Does anyone know what these messages mean? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] (OT) Hotplug SATA drive?
I recently bought a third SATA drive and a carrier and am trying to determine if it can be un/plugged while hot. I have googled and there seems to be different answers depending on the controller, the drive, the kernel version (I'm using 2.6.18) and maybe even the day of the week. Does anyone have any answers or can point me to a place with some definitive answers? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Kweather panel applet: unable to set station
darren kirby wrote: > I have just moved and one thing I needed to do was update the weather station > for my panel applet. In the config dialogue I have two tabs: "Display" > and "Weather Service". I am able to select my new city in the "Available > stations" and even check the weather using "Update All", however, I can not > set this new station to be the one displayed on the panel. > > Even when I delete my old town from the "Weather Service" tab it remains in > the "Location" dropdown in the Display tab. After hitting "Defaults" a few > times, now I get only "Unknown Station" in the drop-down. There seems to be > no way to set the station to be displayed on the panel... > > The help docs don't seem to correspond to the actual software: > > "If you don't know the ICAO code for the airport nearest to you, you can > click > on the link labeled Lookup Your ICAO Code to use a web based search engine to > find it." > > I don't have such a link on mine, and there is no way (that I can find) to > edit the value in the "Location" drop down. > > Again from the docs: > > "right mouse button click on an empty space in the panel and choose > Add->Applet->KWeather > A configuration dialog will open up. Initially the only configuration > required > to make KWeather work is the ICAO location code:." > > When I do this no configuration starts up. I can use the menu to select > configuration, but this just leads to the same dialogue that I cannot do > anything from... > > Does anyone know what's up with this? > KDE is 3.5.5... > > -d Apparently a bug. Edit ~/.kde/share/config/weather_panelappletrc (after closing the applet) and set report_location= to your new city. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg upgrade
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 07:21, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> Just upgraded to xorg-x11-7.1. Definitely faster than 7.0. glxgears >> runs at just under 19,000FPS, an increase of about 12%. > > Hmm, mine comes up with this: > > $ glxgears > libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b > 2445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.874 FPS > 2443 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.550 FPS > 2445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.946 FPS > > How can I fix this libGL warning? > Not sure, I've never seen that warning. What card do you have? Using the latest drivers? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xorg upgrade
Just upgraded to xorg-x11-7.1. Definitely faster than 7.0. glxgears runs at just under 19,000FPS, an increase of about 12%. Fantastic! Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question
Troy Curtis Jr wrote: > On 10/10/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always >> wondered (but never asked - That's the "dumb" part) how Gentoo manages >> to update a package that happens to be running at the time. >> >> Given that the old version (the one running) is deleted, how does it >> manage to keep standing if you just cut its legs off? >> >> I've never seen this discussed anywhere which probably means everyone >> else already knows and are probably thinking to themselves, "Dumb >> question." >> >> Tony >> -- >> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >> Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >>-- Benjamin Franklin >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> > > Simple and short answer is that at run-time the binary and libraries > are loaded into memory and run from there. When you do the update it > replaces the binary and/or libraries on disk, but you won't actually > be running those updates until you restart the process. There may be > other, more dynamic, cases that I am aware of, but that is the general > gist of it. > > Troy I suspected it might be memory. However I still find it difficult. If I'm running KDE for example, it requires at least kdelibs which is a lot to hold in memory. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package dependencies
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 06:13, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> I have seen it mentioned here several times that "equery depends ..." is >> broken. Is there a good way to determine package dependency? > > This shows all dependencies required for $pkg: > > # emerge -pve $pkg > > For an alternative you may have a look at app-portage/udept. > Maybe I meant reverse dependency. Not sure. I want to know what depends on a particular package so that I can decide whether I can delete it or not. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Package dependencies
I have seen it mentioned here several times that "equery depends ..." is broken. Is there a good way to determine package dependency? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Dumb question
I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the "dumb" part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version (the one running) is deleted, how does it manage to keep standing if you just cut its legs off? I've never seen this discussed anywhere which probably means everyone else already knows and are probably thinking to themselves, "Dumb question." Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT Bookeeping recommendations
Nico wrote: > For those who have gnucash installed, is it the 2.0 version (~86) ? Does > it work fine ? > I have to choose in urgence a software like this and I'm testing grisbi > for now, which is a bit too basic for the interface. I need graphs and > beatiful colours :) > > Sql-ledger is a nice one, but It's more adapted for small societies or > associations, maybe that's the one you need... and if you like CSS, you > can tweak your web interface. I also am using the 2.0.1 version and it works fine. I like it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 Stability?
Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 08:44 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On 9/5/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:47:20 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >>> Can anybody on this list indicate what kind of stability they have seen with AMD64 systems using Gentoo (the AMD 64-bit binaries)? How about the majority of ports in the portage tree? >> I've been running Gentoo AMD64 for about 15 months I think... > > sorry to hijack the thread, but how about AMD64 chips running the x86 > sources? Is that any more stable? (I have a good deal on a 3200, and > am wondering whether I should buy it...) > > thanks, I've been running x86 sources on an AMD 4200+ for several months and it is very stable. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to set domainname
Alexander Skwar wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel schrieb: >> As of baselayout-1.12.4, the domainname init script is no longer used >> and the Gentoo Handbook no longer tells how to set the domainname. >> domainname now returns "(none)" >> >> /etc/conf.d/net.example talks about setting up dns_domain but if this is >> used, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. >> >> So how is the domainname now set? > > See net.example. > > # Setting name/domain server causes /etc/resolv.conf to be overwritten > # Note that if DHCP is used, and you want this to take precedence then > # set dhcp_ESSID="nodns" > #dns_servers_ESSID=( "192.168.0.1" "192.168.0.2" ) > #dns_domain_ESSID="some.domain" > [...] > #nis_domain_eth0="domain" > > > The domainname is set with dns_domain or nis_domain. > > Alexander Skwar But setting my domainname this way overwrites my /etc/resolv.conf and I lose my nameserver data. (This is noted in /etc/conf.d/net.example) Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to set domainname
Phil Sexton wrote: > Anthony E Caudel wrote: >> Mike wrote: >> >>> Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >>> >>>> As of baselayout-1.12.4, the domainname init script is no longer used >>>> and the Gentoo Handbook no longer tells how to set the domainname. >>>> domainname now returns "(none)" >>>> >>>> /etc/conf.d/net.example talks about setting up dns_domain but if >>>> this is >>>> used, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. >>>> >>>> So how is the domainname now set? >>>> >>>> Tony >>> >>> /etc/hosts ? >> >> >> Well, perhaps. It is in my /etc/hosts. But domainname still returns >> (none) >> >> Tony > > You should stop using /etc/hostname and use /etc/conf.d/hostname > I don't use /etc/hostname and I DO use /etc/conf.d/hostname. What has this to do with the domainname? Are they both set there? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to set domainname
Mike wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> As of baselayout-1.12.4, the domainname init script is no longer used >> and the Gentoo Handbook no longer tells how to set the domainname. >> domainname now returns "(none)" >> >> /etc/conf.d/net.example talks about setting up dns_domain but if this is >> used, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. >> >> So how is the domainname now set? >> >> Tony > > /etc/hosts ? Well, perhaps. It is in my /etc/hosts. But domainname still returns (none) Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to set domainname
As of baselayout-1.12.4, the domainname init script is no longer used and the Gentoo Handbook no longer tells how to set the domainname. domainname now returns "(none)" /etc/conf.d/net.example talks about setting up dns_domain but if this is used, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. So how is the domainname now set? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is available besides samba
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For easy fast comunication between winxp and linux machines, is there > anything other than samba the works reliably. > > The reason I ask is that I've run into a problem suddenly where none > of my win XP boxes can access shares on a linux box. Trying to debug > this I see such a confusing mess in the logs as to not even get a clue > where the problem may be, or if it is with some other authentication > such as pam or what. > > I've posted elsewhere with some details of the problem I see but > asking in this post and thread if there are other options that may not > be so rife with worthless non-informative log output and therefor be > easier to fix if it breaks. > I use winscp. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving installation to another HD
Daniel da Veiga wrote: > On 8/10/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 8/10/06, Christoph Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > * Boot from a live-CD >> > * mount old and new drive partitions >> > * cd to the mountpoint containing the data to be copied >> > * tar -cSp --numeric-owner -f - . | ( cd /mnt/NEW && tar xSpvf - ) >> > * Drink coffee :) >> >> The one thing you may have to take care of is grub, since I assume the >> /boot directory will be moving to the 40G drive as well. Assuming the >> partition containing /boot is /dev/hda1, then the following should >> work: >> >> echo "(hd0) /dev/hda" > device.map >> grub --device-map=device.map << EOF >> root (hd0,0) >> setup (hd0) >> quit >> EOF > > You seem to have read my mind, I was just about to ask about the boot > signature and if I should run grub again. Yes, I'm moving the whole > partition scheme along with data. > > Linux "cp" is a powerful command, gotta take a look at its manual. > > Thanks for the info so far people, I've decided to move my stuff by > the morning, I'll post any disaster/sucess reports. > Also don't forget to adjust fstab and your kernel line in grub.conf. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Best IRC client
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > So I'm wondering what the consensus is regarding what is the best irc > client under Gentoo. > > Tony Thanks guys for all your input. Looks like I'll choose xchat. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Best IRC client
So I'm wondering what the consensus is regarding what is the best irc client under Gentoo. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp - How to set up
Paul Stear wrote: > Hi all, > I have never got system messages, cron messages etc to work in gentoo. This > really hasn't been a problem but the more progs I have running the more I > think I should attempt to get this working. Especially elogs. > I have ssmtp installed but not set up correctly, I have looked at the man > page > but I couldn't fathom out what exactly I needed to do to receive messages in > my user account. > Can anybody please give me step by step instructions. > > All of my mail is received from my isp using kmail > > Thanks > Paul http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Postfix_Setup_for_Local_Mail_Only -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eBook reader
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 01:25:09 -0500 "Anthony E. Caudel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm looking for a good eBook reader (software). No packages in >> portage that I could find. I found etr but no ebuild and its not >> great. > > What are you missing (except the ebuild)? What functionality are you > searching for? Are you searching for text-based viewers only? > Basically: What's your usage scenario? > > -hwh Basically looking for text readers, although PDF, HTML and others would be nice. Need for it to be able to automatically save position, change fonts, fg/bg colors, etc. If I can't find one, this may be the ideal time to learn how to do ebuilds. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] eBook reader
I'm looking for a good eBook reader (software). No packages in portage that I could find. I found etr but no ebuild and its not great. Any ideas? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Amarok now wants ruby
Just went to update and noticed amarok now wants to install ruby, apparently because of Last.fm Well I don't have anything against ruby, it seems to be a fine language. I just don't want _ANOTHER_ language. Anyone know of a way to compile it without last.fm support so it doesn't pull in ruby? I didn't see a relevant USE flag. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean question
Richard Fish wrote: > On 7/17/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I noticed that many of them are dependencies of virtual/x11 so I added >> that to my world file, re-ran the --depclean and this time got only >> about half the recommendations. Was adding virtual/x11 to my world file >> the proper thing to do? Wonder why it wasn't there in the first place? > > Probably not. Prior to modular-X, any package that depended on > anything X related would depend on virtual/x11, which originally could > be provided by xfree86 or x.org, but now just x.org. > > As part of porting to modular-X, all (well, almost all) packages that > previously depended on virtual/x11 were updated to depend on _either_ > virtual/x11, or the specific modular-X package[s] that they really > needed. > > So the above depclean output means that none of those packages are in > your world file, and nothing in your world file depends directly or > indirectly on them, based on your current USE flags. Specifically, > nothing really depends on virtual/x11, because the dependancies are > satified by the various modular-X packages you have installed. > > So the proper thing to do here is probably add the specific apps that > you actually care about and use to world. > > -Richard Thats a little confusing because most of those are libraries and are dependencies only of virtual/x11. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Depclean question
In preparation for cleaning my world file, I ran emerge -p --depclean world. It listed these packages to be removed: app-crypt/gpgme app-crypt/opencdk app-text/rman dev-libs/libtasn1 dev-libs/lzo dev-python/pyxml gnome-base/gail net-libs/gnutls net-libs/libsoup perl-core/Storable perl-core/Test-Simple sys-devel/bc virtual/x11 x11-apps/sessreg x11-apps/ttmkfdir x11-apps/xcursorgen x11-apps/xdm x11-apps/xdriinfo x11-base/opengl-update x11-libs/libFS x11-libs/libXTrap x11-libs/libXevie x11-libs/libXprintAppUtil x11-libs/libXprintUtil x11-libs/libXvMC x11-libs/liboldX x11-themes/gentoo-xcursors x11-themes/gnome-themes x11-themes/gtk-engines x11-themes/xcursor-themes Obviously many, if not most of them are needed. Remove virtual/x11?? I noticed that many of them are dependencies of virtual/x11 so I added that to my world file, re-ran the --depclean and this time got only about half the recommendations. Was adding virtual/x11 to my world file the proper thing to do? Wonder why it wasn't there in the first place? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compile question
I have an AMD 64x2 with MAKEOPTS set to -j3. I have noticed that some compiles (glibc for example) will use the system to the fullest. top reports %CPU near 0%. Other compiles, such as openoffice seem to use only half as much cpu time. For this top reported consistently near 50%. So I'm wondering if the openoffice compile used only one of the amd cores. Do some of the emerges ignore the MAKEOPTS setting? Or is this an upstream issue with the compile not using threads? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] : virtual Windows solution...
Peter Ruskin wrote: > The free vmware-player will unfortunately refuse to work if you have > more than one processor. Not True. Vmware-player works fine on my AMD 64x2 dual core processor. You do however have to configure it as a single processor. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clean up world file
Neil Bothwick wrote: > ... I have 338 on my desktop and 256 on my laptop, which makes me think I > should start pruning ... > Gulp! Maybe mine isn't so bloated after all. ;-) Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clean up world file
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:30:54 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> Has anyone here used it? Is it the best means available to clean the >> world file? Anything in the gentoo tree to do this? > > I've done this manually in the past. Edit /var/lib/world and remove > everything you think shouldn't be in there. Be brutal, if you never run > the program directly, you probably don't want it in world. > > Then run "emerge --depclean --pretend". If this lists any packages you > know you want (directly, not as dependencies) add them to world with > "emerge -n package". > > Rinse and repeat. > > Finally, when everything listed by "emerge --depclean" is not something > you want to keep, run it without --pretend. > > Thanks Neil. I think I'll use this along with the recommendations of dep. With 119 packages in the world file, I'll have to be VERY brutal. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clean up world file
Daniel Iliev wrote:
> Daniel Waeber wrote:
>> If I'm not mistaken, you can simply run "vim /var/lib/portage/world",
>> :sort it and ddelete the packages you don't need. It did work for me,
>> but I'm not sure if something breaks if you just edit the world file or
>> if you have to chance something else.
>
> I don't think anything will break.
>
> There is also, let me name it "reverse approach".
>
> You first make a back up and empty your world file:
> 1) gentoo ~ #cp /var/lib/portage/world ~/ && >/var/lib/portage/world
> and then build it again:
> 2) gentoo ~ #regenworld
>
> "regenworld" will put some packages which it thinks belong to the world
> list.
> Now check what portage finds to be useless when the world set is almost
> empty:
> 3) gentoo ~ #emerge --depclean --pretend
>
>>From the list shown by the above command you chose the program packages
> you *want* to have installed and put them in the world file. One "atom"
> ("category-name/package-name", without version numbers) per line.
> Now do as "emerge --depclean" recommends:
>
> 4) gentoo ~ #emerge --update --newuse --deep world
>
> Repeat the steps from (2) to (4) until (3) shows only packages that are
> not familiar to you and (4) doesn't want to install anything.
>
> Next. Check if there are no system packages in the list (3) shows:
> 5) gentoo ~ #emerge -pve system
>
> It should not happen that (3) wants to remove system packages but its
> better to be sure.
>
> Now "cross your fingers" and execute emerge --deplcean for real (without
> --pretend).
> 6) emerge --deplcean
> Immediately after (6) finishes you *must* do:
> 7) emerge -DuN world
> 8) revdep-rebuild
>
> When (8) is successfully finished you should have a "clean" world set
> within a healthy system.
> If something goes wrong you can bring back your working "world" and
> recheck all packages:
>
> #cp ~/world /var/lib/portage/world
> #emerge -DuN world
> #revdep-rebuild
>
> One more thing. You remember that saying "If it works don't fix it",
> don't you? :)
> I mean your system should work properly even with "polluted" world set,
> no matter there are additional packages in it.
>
*** Whew! ***
Thanks Daniel, I'm going to keep this in mind.
And yes, I'm familiar with the quote. The only problem with a bloated
world file is updating perhaps unnecessarily.
Tony
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[gentoo-user] Testing feedback
If I'm using a testing package (e.g., ~x86), how can I provide feedback to the devs that it works for me? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Clean up world file
There was a recent thread about about what should or should not be in the world file. Regarding that, my world file is bloated. Until recently, I had a tendency to do updates piecemeal but did not use --oneshot. This put packages in that I do not think belong. Looking for a means to clean up the world file, I ran across Ed Catmur's "dep". Has anyone here used it? Is it the best means available to clean the world file? Anything in the gentoo tree to do this? Tony BTW, I ran it with the --pretend option and it told me that 44 of the 119 packages in my world file were redundant. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] automatic notification of changes in certain packages
>> Hi folks, >> >> i'd like to get automatic notification if something in an certain >> package changes, ie. package foo has been masked, unmasked, >> new version, ... >> >> Is there any service for that yet ? >> >> cu >> -- >> - >> Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service >> >> phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ >> fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> cellphone: +49 174 7066481 >> - >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> The depreciated gentoolkit program etcat had an option, versions, that listed all versions available for a package. Running that periodically should give you what you want. You might even customize it a little more by using a script to watch a particular version. I don't know whether the function has been picked up in a more modern program such as equery or not. I couldn't find it. etcat is still in /usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-0.2.2/depreciated/etcat/etcat Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
Mick wrote: > On 13/06/06, Ryan Tandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> > >> > How? "make modules_install" or the whole thing: "make && make >> > modules_install" then just modprobe the new module? >> >> # make modules modules_install >> # modprobe > > Do you also need to run "&& make install" or is it not necessary to > copy anything to /boot? Not necessary. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
Michael Weyershäuser wrote: > I usualy start with a kernel with almost everything compiled in (but > only things I definitely need), only using modules when I have to > (USB for suspend2 comes to my mind). Over time whenever I need > something new (filesystem, hardware driver,...) I tend to compile it > as a module to avoid a reboot. As I do not upgrade my kernel very > often this happens more often than you might think (last upgrade was > from 2.6.11 to 2.6.16, on my laptop from 2.6.10 to 2.6.16). > > I don't really care about the 300k more used memory (hardly worth a > thought on systems with 1 GB RAM and more) or the 0.3 seconds faster > boot process. Modules just come in handy when it comes to avoiding a > reboot. OK, this seems to confirm something I had suspected but never investigated: - that you can compile just a module without the need to recompile and install a revised kernel. This is possible? How? "make modules_install" or the whole thing: "make && make modules_install" then just modprobe the new module? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
Teresa and Dale wrote: > Care to guess how much I like modules: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # lsmod >> Module Size Used by >> nvidia 4551892 12 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # > > > I would have that one in there if I could. I never did like them. > Why? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Module philosophy: Compile-in or Load
I was wondering what gentoo-users think and practice about kernel modules. Do most compile them in the kernel or load them at boot-up. Note that I'm _NOT_ talking about those modules that have to be compiled in such as for your filesystem. This is about the other ones. I generally like to load them at boot-up. One reason is that I have heard that for suspend or hibernate to work, some modules have to be unloaded. On the other hand, compiling them in results in faster boot times. So, what do gentoo-users think? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are there any known glitches in using the nvidia drivers with an athlon64?
William Kenworthy wrote: > Are there any known glitches in using the nvidia drivers with an > athlon64? > They work together for me. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 23:10:36 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: don't forget to check the useflags (with ufed), and don't forget emerge --newuse -a world You'll need to add --update --deep to catch packages affected by the changed USE flags. Did. Thanks and all is working. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I was going to switch to nptl (only) but emerge ignored my additions to make.conf. Then I noticed that my profile is default-linux/x86/no-nptl so that answers that question. Can I change my profile to default-linux/x86/2006.0. Any repercussions? Here is my emerge --info: Portage 2.0.54-r2 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.4.2 Never mind. I made a backup and went and changed the profile, switched to nptl and nptlonly. No repercussions so far. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Suspend...kind of OT
James Colby wrote: On 6/1/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When Windows _SUSPENDS_ (we're not talking hibernate right?), it never relaay stops running. It shuts down the display and the hard drives and sort of goes to sleep. So when you "power" back up, it simply resumes. It does not reboot. Tony -- Tony - The option that I choose in windows is stand-by. Is there another option that I can enable for hibernate. Would hibernate give me what I'm looking for. Thanks for the help, James Try pressing shift at that screen and see if standby changes to hibernate. If not search windows help for information on setting up hibernate. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Change profile
I was going to switch to nptl (only) but emerge ignored my additions to make.conf. Then I noticed that my profile is default-linux/x86/no-nptl so that answers that question. Can I change my profile to default-linux/x86/2006.0. Any repercussions? Here is my emerge --info: Portage 2.0.54-r2 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: [Not Present] dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i386-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -msse3 -pipe" CHOST="i386-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/splash /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -msse3 -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/gentoo/ " MAKEOPTS="-j3" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="x86 X alsa apm audiofile avi bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdr cli crypt cups curl dri dvd eds emboss encode esd exif expat fam ffmpeg foomaticdb fortran gd gdbm gif glut gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 gtkhtml guile hal idn imagemagick imlib ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg kde lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mng motif mp3 mpeg mysql ncurses nls nvidia ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png pppd python qt quicktime readline reflection scanner sdl session spell spl ssl tcltk tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb vorbis xml xml2 xmms xorg xv zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc" Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System Suspend...kind of OT
James Colby wrote: List members - I have a laptop that I dual boot with windows and gentoo. My gentoo installation has software suspend working. When I run the hibernate script the system hibernates and then powers down. When I press the power button on my laptop I am then presented with my lilo boot menu and I can choose Gentoo, and resume my session. Now when I boot into windows and I suspend my session...the session suspends and my system powers off. When I press the power button the system automatically resumes my windows session and I am never presented with the lilo menu. Is there a change that I could make to my windows suspend options so that when I press the power button I am presented with the lilo boot menu and I can choose to resume either windows or gentoo. Thanks for any input that you may have, and I apologize if this is too off topic for this list. -James When Windows _SUSPENDS_ (we're not talking hibernate right?), it never relaay stops running. It shuts down the display and the hard drives and sort of goes to sleep. So when you "power" back up, it simply resumes. It does not reboot. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USE flags question
Am I correct in thinking that USE flags in /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc are global flags and should be placed in /etc/make.conf whereas those in use.local.desc are only local flags and should only be placed in /etc/portage/package.use with the appropriate package? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CVS for kernel config?
I am in the process of moving to an amd64 system and I anticipate a lot of experimentation/tuning with the kernel. I was wondering if it is possible to set up CVS (or preferably Subversion) so that I would be able to back up to any previous configuration. It seems that if I just kept the .config file in cvs and checked it in and out as needed that this might work. Maybe? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lcd console fonts
maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, The console fonts in my new LCD monitor are H-U-G-E. Attempts to shrink them by adding vga=xxx at the grub prompt after the kernel line has no effect. Here's the entire grub session: grub> root (hd0,1) grub> kernel /vmlinuz vga=794 #1280x1024(so I'm told) grub> boot I'm not using a grub.conf file, preferring the manual method for now. X displays the required resolution excellently. FWIW, I'm using a Radeon 9200 pro vid card with the digital interface. Thanks, -MW I fixed this with in the kernel: In Device Drivers | Graphics support, set VESA VGA graphics support, pick a VESA Driver Type ( I use vesafb-tng) and set the VESA Default mode to what your native resolutions is. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
Richard Fish wrote: On 5/26/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing. I plan to upgrade to it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first. You don't need to unmerge 3.4 _first_. You can do it after you have merged 3.5, although even then it is optional. Does the fact that it does not use the kde flag guarantee that it does not need the kde libraries? No, like all USE flags, the kde flag is only for *optional* kde support. There are some applications that will not work at all without KDE, even though they are not part of KDE. Those applications will not have a kde use flag, but will bring in whatever parts of kde they depend on. Examples are koffice, kdevelop, kmplayer, kaffeine, ... equery depends kdelibs | grep -v kde-base/ Course, I guess I could blithely go along and as apps crash, I'll find the others. revdep-rebuild -Richard Ah, thanks. revdep-rebuild it is. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:04, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing. I plan to upgrade to it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first. No problem, but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps, such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries. Right? em, why do you think you'll have to unmerge 3.4? They can coexist very nicely. True. But why keep 3.4? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?
Steven Susbauer wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have included that in my original email, of course: $ grep USE /etc/make.conf | grep -v "^#" USE="berkdb innodb" I have no /usr/portage/package.use $ grep USE /etc/make.profile/make.defaults USE="alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv" AHA! but the man page for emerge says not to edit /etc/make.profile/make.defaults. How do I get X out of there? If in fact that's the cause of my problem? Michael Everything you put in /etc/make.conf should be based on the make.defaults, or possible things you want enabled. If X is in make.defaults, add -X to make.conf to disable it. You should probably add "-X -opengl -gnome -gtk -gtk2 -kde -qt" to /etc/make.conf at least, that should hopefully fix your issues. -Steven Curious that "X" should be in make.defaults. Does that mean that the devs think that everyone wants X loaded? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
I see that KDE 3.5 finally made it out of testing. I plan to upgrade to it but since it is slotted, I'll have to unmerge 3.4 first. No problem, but I think I will then have to recompile all non-kde but related apps, such a k3b, that were compiled against the old libraries. Right? Using "equery useflag kde", I found k3b and amarok (and gnome-libs ). So, my question is: Is this all? I can't believe these are all the semi-kde apps there are? Does the fact that it does not use the kde flag guarantee that it does not need the kde libraries? Course, I guess I could blithely go along and as apps crash, I'll find the others. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Manually compiling a gentoo package
Richard Fish wrote: On 5/22/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks, Richard. Those steps did the trick. And the author's correction fixed the problem also. Cool. If upstream is going to apply the patch to a future release that may be some weeks off, you might consider filing a bug report on bugs.gentoo.org with the patch to get it added to the current ebuild and release. -Richard Should I put my self-fixed pgcalc2 in an overlay? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
