[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?
* Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/05/06 21:45]: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I mostly use xterm, since it's fast and has almost all of the features I need. But when I need to read/write Hebrew, I use mlterm, which has bidi support Moshe pgpSeVxsABNsS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide
* Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/05/06 23:30]: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: * Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/05/06 19:30]: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group. Something like this: #!/bin/sh trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM echo before ( sleep 30; echo inside ) echo after No use. trap will wait till the running child is completed, which is not what I want (as reply of Hans-Werner). Well, I just tried it, and it worked. You mean the parent received the TERM signal while sleep'ing 30 and the child terminated before the 30 seconds were through? I intend to use the script with a long rsync, which must terminate when receiving the signal. I tested your script with 3000 instead of 30, and the script outputs after and terminates when I send it a TERM; however, a process sleep 3000 still comes out in the output of ps auxf (as an orphan), I had to kill it explicitly. Funny, I just tried the same, and it worked. It also didn't print any after (appropriately, since the sig handler includes 'exit'), and I didn't find any sleep process. Maybe it was from some different experiment? Moshe Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpUNCcJZXf0C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide
* Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04/05/06 21:00]: Hi, On Thu, 4 May 2006 18:55:28 +0300 Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, I just tried the same, and it worked. It also didn't print any after (appropriately, since the sig handler includes 'exit'), and I didn't find any sleep process. Maybe it was from some different experiment? I don't think so. You probably sent the signal to the child process (CTRL-C, perhaps?) and the script at once, not to the parent only. proper way would be to try it like this: ./test.sh # wait some short time kill -TERM $! After that I see that the child process is still running. You are right. I was using 'kill -TERM %1', which sends the signal to the whole group, I guess. Anyway, I just tried the analogous thing with perl, and it does work. I wonder what is the reasoning in the bash case. Moshe pgp51eZp2xREW.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide
* Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02/05/06 16:00]: parent.sh #!/bin/bash do something /path/to/child.sh do something else When parent.sh receives a TERM signal, I would like child.sh to receive TERM also, and then parent.sh receive TERM. The do something else part is why I can't use exec /path/to/child.sh. Is there some way to achieve this? You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group. Something like this: #!/bin/sh trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM echo before ( sleep 30; echo inside ) echo after Note that you can also send the signal with the negative of the pid, and then it goes to the whole process group. Moshe -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpu8dRCB1VJW.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] kill a child and suicide
* Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/05/06 19:30]: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: You can use 'kill 0' to send a signal to your own process group. Something like this: #!/bin/sh trap 'kill 0;exit' TERM echo before ( sleep 30; echo inside ) echo after No use. trap will wait till the running child is completed, which is not what I want (as reply of Hans-Werner). Well, I just tried it, and it worked. Moshe pgpbwqTHYyGA8.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Can bash do comments on files?
* Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] [13/02/06 14:15]: On Monday 13 February 2006 11:04, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: You can use extended attributes for this. See getfattr(1) and attr(5) from sys-apps/attr. Quoting the man page for attr: Extended attributes implement the ability for a user to attach name:value pairs to objects within the _XFS_ filesystem. I believe you are looking at the man page for the attr command (attr(1)) rather than attr(5), which states that attributes are implemented for ext2, ext3 and xfs. I believe they are also implemented for reiserfs since the option exist in the kernel configuration, but I'm not sure. Moshe Does it work for other file systems? Mrugesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpZ5RA5STvAe.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Can bash do comments on files?
* Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [13/02/06 02:08]: On 2/13/06, Gerhard Hoogterp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under linux that's not nessecary as you can just use long filenames including spaces.. I do that, of course. It solves 95% of my issues. Somehow, I still miss that feature. Additional comments would help me, for example, when I have a series of source code files with similar file names, and need to make comments to distinguish them. Especially when other programs are looking for the file names in a series. You can use extended attributes for this. See getfattr(1) and attr(5) from sys-apps/attr. I think you need to enable this for the file system you are using when compiling the kernel (and maybe also pass the use_xattr option when mounting) HTH, Moshe Alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpe6eBwSGaDB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: vim USE flag: vim-with-x
* Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/01/06 10:18]:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:13:24AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote
+ and * , but only if you USE=vim-with-x.
Did that, and it doesn't seem to help. Here's my status...
[m3000][root][~] emerge --pretend --verbose vim
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] app-editors/vim-6.4 -acl -bash-completion -cscope -gpm
-minimal -nls -perl -python -ruby +vim-with-x 0 kB
Let me re-iterate what I'm trying to do...
- In X, highlight a text string (e.g. a URL) in Firefox
- hit {CTRL}{ALT}{F1}, taking me to a *REAL TEXT CONSOLE* running mutt
or slrn, with vim as the editor
- paste the complex URL directly into a message I'm composing with vim
Did you set DISPLAY before running mutt/slrn?
Moshe
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[gentoo-user] Re: vim USE flag: vim-with-x
* Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22/01/06 06:14]:
The one thing I find painful in my setup is copying text from the X
session to a text session or visa versa. I end up opening vim in X,
saving the selected text to ~/x, switching to a text console, and then
:r ~/x
in vim. At work, where I have to use Windows (ptui) I can copy text
from the GUI to the clipboard, {ALT-TAB} to a vim session, and paste the
clipboard with * even if vim is running in a textmode console. Is
there some similar channel for vim in linux?
If you just set DISPLAY correctly before you run vim (usually ':0.0'),
you can do it the same. You can even use the mouse (if you use gpm)
Moshe
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[gentoo-user] Re: mathml problems with firefox 1.5
* Edwin Kapauni [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/12/05 18:46]: Moshe Kaminsky wrote: Hi, It's not a fonts problem, I also have the fonts installed. The page was rendered correctly with the previous version of firefox, and is still rendered correctly with mozilla. And it's not a firefox problem either. Rendering that page http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml is much better using binaries from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.tar.gz Appears you are right! emerging mozilla-firefox-bin solves the problem. I will update the bug report. Thanks, Moshe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpIDzgMPsS1o.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: mathml problems with firefox 1.5
Hi, It's not a fonts problem, I also have the fonts installed. The page was rendered correctly with the previous version of firefox, and is still rendered correctly with mozilla. I submitted a bug, bug #114656 Thanks, Moshe * Chris Fairles [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/12/05 11:08]: i have mathematical and texcm-ttf fonts installed and firefox 1.5 does not render them correctly as well. haven't found a work-around for it yet Chris Moshe Kaminsky wrote: Hi, It appears that firefox 1.5 doesn't render mathml correctly. The previous version (1.07) did it right. Anyone else can see this? A test page is at: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml Thanks, Moshe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpltqcAf3H4h.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] mathml problems with firefox 1.5
Hi, It appears that firefox 1.5 doesn't render mathml correctly. The previous version (1.07) did it right. Anyone else can see this? A test page is at: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/texvsmml.xhtml Thanks, Moshe -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpo53pQGE0fH.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: dev-perl/Data-Dumper ebuild
Hi, * Yoandy Rodriguez Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20/10/05 01:49]: Hello there, I'm emerging taskjuggler and emerge complains about dev-perl/Data-Dumper, a quick look at dev-perl told me that there were no such package but google says it existed once. Any hint about how to solve this? The Data::Dumper module is part of the core perl installation. You can verify it is installed with perl -MData::Dumper -e 1 If this runs without errors, the module is installed. What is the error, exactly? I didn't notice that the ebuild itself mentions Data-Dumper. Moshe pgp9T7nM7lNV4.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm troubles
* James [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04/10/05 18:05]: Moshe Kaminsky kaminsky at math.huji.ac.il writes: Though ExtUtils::MakeMaker can be emerged as a separate package, it also comes bundled with perl. I don't know why you don't have it; Do you have the 'minimal' use flag set for perl? If so, I would try to re-emerge perl without it. OK, My use flags in make.conf are: USE= perl -gtk -gnome -qt -kde acl apm hardened kerberos krb4 minimal ssl -alsa -arts -avi -cups -gif -gstreamer -gtk2 -jpeg -kde -motif -mp3 -mpeg -ogg -oggvorbis -png -qt -quicktime -spell -vorbis -X -xmms -xv (note, I just added perl) How do I track down what USE flags to set, so that perl actually builds MakeMaker.pm? As I said, it is the 'minimal' flag (the flag named 'minimal') that causes it, and it is indeed in your USE flags. Just remove it and you're done. Moshe pgpWECtRk2sQz.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm troubles
Hi, * James [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/10/05 23:00]: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Source unpacked. Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker Can't locate ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm in at INC ( at INC contains: /etc/perl usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i686-linux usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6 /usr/local/lib/site_perl at Makefile.PL line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1. make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. Install ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.20 into /var/tmp/portage/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.20/image/ category perl-core make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i686-linux/CORE/config.h', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. I tried both recent versions of ExtUtils-MakeMaker 6,20 and 6.21, both failed. I also tried 'USE=ithreads emerge libperl' which did not work either. Any other ideas? Do you actually have perl installed? If so, which version? If you don't have perl, I don't think you can even install perl modules. Moshe James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpuu6v89xJE8.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm troubles
* James [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03/10/05 23:48]: Moshe Kaminsky kaminsky at math.huji.ac.il writes: Do you actually have perl installed? If so, which version? If you don't have perl, I don't think you can even install perl modules. I thought that was clear, that perl was installed: dev-lang/perl Available versions: 5.8.6-r5 5.8.6-r6 ~5.8.7 ~5.8.7-r1 Installed: 5.8.6-r6 sys-devel/libperl Available versions: 5.8.5 ~5.8.5-r1 5.8.6 5.8.6-r1 ~5.8.7 Installed: 5.8.6-r1 Any thing I missed? Then you are supposed to have ExtUtils::MakeMaker installed as part of perl. Do you have /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm? Moshe James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpCG2jcZnHXu.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm troubles
* James [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04/10/05 02:57]: Moshe Kaminsky kaminsky at math.huji.ac.il writes: Then you are supposed to have ExtUtils::MakeMaker installed as part of perl. Do you have /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm? No, it's not there. emerge ExtUtils-MakeMaker Though ExtUtils::MakeMaker can be emerged as a separate package, it also comes bundled with perl. I don't know why you don't have it; Do you have the 'minimal' use flag set for perl? If so, I would try to re-emerge perl without it. Moshe pgpCb96k3Jt8l.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Make a running process nohup?
Hi, * Qiangning Hong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/09/05 12:20]: Is it possible make a running process nohup so that I can leave it running after I logout without interrupt it? I don't know a standard way to do it, but I think what might work is to run gdb within screen, in gdb say 'attach pid' (where pid is the process id of your process), then say 'handle SIGHUP ignore nostop' and finally 'cont' to continue the program. Didn't try it. Moshe -- Qiangning Hong http://www.hn.org/hongqn (RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/hongqn) Registered Linux User #396996 Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=67907t=1 Thunderbird! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=67907t=183 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgp6lsCSygUxZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: modifying locally an ebuild
Fernando Canizo schreef: This is the thing: in mutt you can flag a message as important (you got only one flag), also you have a 'ctrl-d' command that deletes a full thread. Sometimes threads get off-topic (an unconstructive flame for example) and when i realize that, and don't like the new topic i just 'ctrl-d' them. But what if i've flagged some message? It means that it's important to me, so i wanted to remain undeleted. The actual behaviour of mutt just delete everything. That's what the patch provides me, and with a single line of code. Simple. And David (the autor) do it so well that even added a new option for it to be in '~/muttrc' and let the default to be the old behaviour. So i think this patch can get to portage easily. By the way, if anyone interested, this is it: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/sw/mutt/patch-1.5.8.dgc.flagsafe.1 This is a bit OT here (and I'm also replying to the wrong message, since I don't have the whole thread), but it seems that you can achieve the same goals without patching mutt: First, as you might be aware, it's possible to delete a subthread (bound by default to ESC d.) Second, I think you can do exactly what you want with something like: macro index \Cd \Ct .\nesctD ~T ! ~F\n Delete unflagged thread messages (all in one line.) This untags all messages (\Ct .), tags the thread (esct), then deletes messages which match the pattern that say the message is tagged (~T) and not flagged (! ~F). I assumed here that the key bindings are the default ones, and that you have 'delete_untag' set (otherwise you will want to untag them yourself, with an extra \Ct . at the end.) The only problem is that it will remove all tags you previously had. Moshe pgpnXiUnIFucd.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT?]Text editor and scripting weirdness
Hi, * Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30/08/05 17:30]: Hi all, I was having a nice day when this started happening completely out of the blue (no emerges, no changes, no nothing prior to what I'm about to explain): I use Openbox, and I finally just started setting it up to use more of its features, notably the dock. Now, I always ran OB from a script (pointed the exec line in the usr/share/xsessions openbox.desktop entry to point to it), in order to start various apps (feh, pypanel, gnome-settings-daemon, numlockx) prior to starting OB itself. Why do you have to modify the .desktop file? don't you have an option in the display manager to choose the xsession file? So I added the dockapp entries to this script, and (after some tweakage), all was well. Until I logged out and back in, and suddenly OB would not start from the script-- well, it would, but I'd get the 'your session has lasted less than 10 seconds' error. ~/.xsession.errors said that there was an unexpected EOF at the end of the script. And sure enough, there is an extra (blank) line after exec openbox,so the error itself makes sense, kinda. I find it highly unlikely that this is the problem. This should be just a regular shell script, and should have no problems with blank lines. Can you post this file? The problem is, I can't get rid of it. I usually edit the script in gedit, but I've edited out that blank line in nano, kate, and nedit as well, and it keeps coming back (I edit it out, save the file, try logging in via the script, error recurs). The convention is that text files should end with an eol. I guess these editors add it. I know vim does it, unless you explicitly ask it not to. I can get into OB by changing the .desktop entry back to Exec=openbox (but then of course I have nothing but the menu), and I can run the (modified to remove 'exec openbox') script after OB has started, and all my dockapps and helper apps appear normally. But this is obviously not optimal (unless anyone knows a way to make OB run the script itself when it starts, but if we could do that, we wouldn't have to be editing ~/.xsession or writing extra scripts in the first place). I use fluxbox, which I think is very similar, and I can specify startup applications in the ~/.fluxbox/apps file. But I think using ~/.xsession is better, since then if you decide to switch to another wm, you can just change one line in .xsession, and still have the same other apps running. What I want is to permanently get rid of this bogus EOF in my script, so that it works the way it did 3 hours ago. As I said, I don't believe it's the problem. Can you post .xsession and .xsession-errors? Moshe Does this ring a bell to anybody? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpxXwoueY3NM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: why gentoo doesn't have long description?
* Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [24/08/05 14:07]:
El 24/ago/2005 a las 04:01 -0300, Jonas me decía:
Second, the whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems. Meaning, a
solution not involving the Internet... =)
If you're refering to the fact that the person doesn't have an internet
connection when he wants to view this information throught the emerge
interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you're just
searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , when you
need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url (if
you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) 3) search
for the package on the website , while instead you could just do
something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes more
sence ?
Exactly! That's what i'm refering to. It's not an issues of connection it's an
issue of lazyness! It's like: -- hey what are you doing this weekend? --
don't
know, it's cold and raining, i think i'm gonna sit in my throne and check
what's
new on 'app-vim' to improve my vimyness, if find something interesting i'll
check the package webpage.
For now i'm using 'questo':
=== script
#!/bin/bash
# lun may 2 20:57:24 ART 2005
# conan - GPLed
#
# script to check for apps on rainy sunday morning
BASE_DIR=/usr/portage/
[ $# -ne 1 ] echo Uso: questo category exit 0
cd $BASE_DIR$1
for package in * ; do
eix ^$paquete\$
echo Looking for: $1/$paquete. ENTER to continue...
read
done
=== end script
Now i took sugestion from Ciaran to look in metadata.xml, i check a couple by
hand and see the 'longdesc' field but... with short descriptions! Now maybe i
just choose two with bad luck, but i got a feeling that gentoo maintainers
doesn't like to provide longdesc, although there is the posibility.
I was thinking of doing a little script that gives longdesc found in metadata
to
confirm this, but since i don't know nothing about xml, think it gonna take a
little bit more that if there were already an application to check
'metadata.xml'
If you have the XML::Simple perl module (which can be emerged as
XML-Simple), you can do
perl -MXML::Simple -le 'print XMLin(shift)-{longdescription}' file
where file is the metadata.xml file.
However, it appears that this field is not widely supported. Instead,
you might use something like
lynx -dump -nolist `esearch -o %h package`
to dump the homepage of the package as text (of course, you still need
to be online for that)
Moshe
PS. Sorry if this actually seems on-topic :)
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[gentoo-user] Re: [asking again] keyboard/mouse woes on 2.6 kernel
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[gentoo-user] Re: Hints for using Unison?
Hi, * Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01/08/05 02:42]: On 7/31/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:43:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: One possibly tricky part about this will be that in some cases we have found bad rips and have reripped files to fix that. In this case there is going to be a newer file in each either location with the same name but with a new size date. Will Unison give me an option to just accept the newer one in each location and remove or backup the older one automatically? Unison is particularly good at handling this sort of situation. It keeps a log of the file dates each time you sync and asks for manual intervention when a file have been updated on both sides since the last sync. Hi Neil, OK, so I tried Unison and, twice, it just gets stuck at the same file. I'm running it like this: unison /home/mark/music /mnt/Musiclib The gui comes up and the program gets started but then it just hangs. There's no obvious network activity or local disk activity. If I let the program sit long enough for the screensaver to kick in then when I unlock the screen the program is just a grey box. So far I cannot even kill the thing. kill -9 pid or killall -9 unison act like they killed it but ps aux says the process is still there. It's even there if I try killing the gui in Gnome. The gui goes away but the process persists. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? This is just a guess, but I know that unison is using some lock files, and there might be problems with this on nfs mounted directories. I think the problem might be solved if you run unison on both machines, rather than using the mounted directory. If that's impossible, you might be able to change the location of the lock files by changing the root to a local directory. Moshe Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpK1wfnyQpbt.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT, game-related,long] Changing file dates?
, when I installed the game) than the replacement files --which might have been packed and uploaded *yesterday*. But since WinRAR and all other native and non-native archive manangement programs that I've tried are (naturally) going to extract the plugin files without modifying the date of the archived files (and don't seem to have an option to change that, because it doesn't make much sense to want to do that in the first place)... the extracted archives are almost always going to have an 'earlier' date than the original game files, and be overridden by the original game files (which is not the way it's supposed to work). Now, what's weird is that this *did* work, but (as is traditional for me), I got a bit too tangled up in plugin conformance testing to know where the heck I was anymore, so I backed up the install, reinstalled, and started over, and suddenly my texture replacer isn't replacing textures anymore. The very idea of trying to debug the differences between the old install and the new is too horrifying to comtemplate. Plus, it's not to the point (as of yet, and hopefully it won't ever be). So what I need is a reasonable way for an 'average user' to fix this. On my personal system, because I have installed the 15-hour version (which dates correctly) as well as the Loki install (which is what I'm actually playing), I can just copy the original *.bsa and *.esm files over the Loki-extracted ones (which I just thought of and which seems to work on paper), but I couldn't advise that to the general public. Having written all of this out, I can see that this is most properly fixed by the Loki installer script (which should not change dates when extracting the game files from the *.cab files, if it is in fact doing so), and I will post on their forums to request that change (since I can't get the script or archive or whatever it is open to change anything myself). However, since I have no way of knowing whether anyone there will actually give a hoot, or have time to fix it in a timely manner, what I'm looking for is a workaround. Obviously, I could change the system date (to something like august 1st 2000) prior to installing using the Loki script, then change it back, but that's just 1) ugly; 2) dangerous. I wouldn't want to suggest that as a workaround, even if the HOW-TO never went past my own /docs folder. What I would like is a way to change the date of specific files to a specific date (in the past), without changing (editing) them, which is not an option with the original Morrowind files (or, if it is possible, it's only so with additional external tools and a whole lot of difficulty). Is this even possible to do? Now that I've said it out loud, it doesn't sound like something Linux would want me to do at all, but perhaps there's some reason that server admins might need to do such a thing, in which case Linux definitely provides a way to do it. If it is not possible, or is unreasonably dangerous to explain on a public forum, can anyone think of an alternative solution, given the circumstances, until such time as the Loki installer is fixed (if in fact it needs to be fixed and the issue is not that my system is borked somehow)? Or is my system possibly borked somehow and these files are being incorrectly stamped due to something completely unrelated to the installer? Anyway, thanks for listening (if you did), and thanks for any ideas. Holly P.S. This all sounds very difficult and unpleasant-- and it is-- but, YES, Morrowind really is worth the trouble if you like RPGs. In this respect, it resembles The Sims (as a very difficult game to get the relatively useless base game installed and running at all and then the mods that make it all worthwhile running on top of it, nothing said about which expansions work and which dont, although apparently Superstar will crash the game at startup). It's next on my list of HOW-TOs, but I will say that The Sims Deluxe does install under Linux and run under some form of Wine (don't remember which atm, but I'm not touching my Sims install until I've got Morrowind working to my specifications). So for those of you who 1) read all this, 2) have ATI cards, and 3) want to play either of these games-- IT CAN BE DONE. And I promise to tell you how, if you guys help me over this hump. H. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpfMPueAa1q6.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
* Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 07:15]: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when replying? Moshe pgp9ih1XLnlC9.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
Hi, * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 14:14]: El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:04:29AM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky me decía: * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 07:15]: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when replying? Moshe Like i said to Richard, maybe you're right. I mean: i can write an utf-8 file from scratch using vim alone, so why would not when invoking vim from mutt? Maybe is that mutt is telling vim something incorrect when they communicate. Well, i'll give more information, but this gonna grow large ;) [snip] checking if the locales work with perl: ~$ perl -e ok doesn't show anything That's one use of perl I never thought about :) checking if perl is doing the right things by setting an erroneous locale: ~$ env LC_ALL=nocharset perl -e perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = es_AR.utf-8, LC_ALL = nocharset, LC_CTYPE = es_AR.utf-8, LANG = es_AR.utf-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). ok, it cries, so it's working ok my ~/.signature is in utf-8, my ~/.alias is too i got this in my ~/.vimrc: set encoding=utf-8 set fileencoding=utf-8 Please try removing this setting, then check the value after vim reads the file (when you reply). Vim sets this option when editing an existing file according to what it thinks the encoding of the file to be. Also, you might want to try something like :e ++enc=utf-8 file This will force vim to read this file as a utf-8 file. Also, what is the value of 'fileencodings'? set termencoding=utf-8 and when mutt invokes vim i re-check that this is ok, and is ok (i mean i check in runtime and it obbeys the configuration) i got this in my ~/.muttrc: set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8 Might want to try just utf-8, but I don't think it will matter. set charset=utf-8 set locale=es_AR.utf8 from the mutt man i know this settings should not be necessary, since the system is configured ok, but i try with and without and get no difference. Ok, that's all concerning configuration. Now i tell you how the problem works: in mutt, if i compose a mail from scratch, without anything, not even signature, and put a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (got that name from unicode chart), and then send it to myself, and to a friend, my friend sees it ok and i too. But if now i reply to this same mail, when vim comes with the quoted text that mutt passes to it y see garbage. Can you include one of this characters in your reply? So mutt is ok seeing and sending utf-8, vim is ok writing and reading utf-8, but when both cooperate, things get screwed. I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) I think this is just the way these characters are represented in utf-8. Moshe pgpJzPzJfarsh.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Recovering vim/mutt email I was writing
* Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17/06/05 22:02]: Hi, * Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17/06/05 19:13]: Hello, I was writing an email using vim in mutt and I accidentally hit ctrl+alt+backspace which exited X. Is there any way to recover that email? Try running 'vim -r'. This will list all swap files. Then run 'vim -r filename'. See :help swap-file for details about swap files. HTH, Moshe There is a 0 byte file in /tmp that definitely looks like the one. I guess I'm outta luck then? If so, does anyone know why the message's contents weren't saved to the file? Perhaps the crash happened immediately after you started editing? You might want to check the values of the vim options 'updatecount', 'updatetime' and 'swapsync'. Moshe - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgprrWRaPReC4.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] when ldconfig should be run
Hi, I've noticed that after merging every package, portage runs ldconfig (the 'Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...' message). This takes a long time, and as far as I understand, for most packages is unnecessary. I looked in portage.py, and it appears that portage indeed checks whether the relevant directories where modified during the merge. However, this check is ignored if ldconfig should create links (ie, run without the -X flag). Can someone explain it? as far as I understand, links are only created to files in the same directories that are checked, so if they were not modified, no links should be created, right? Thanks, Moshe PS. The relevant lines start around line 600 in portage.py -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpxMujEi24UP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Recovering vim/mutt email I was writing
Hi, * Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17/06/05 19:13]: Hello, I was writing an email using vim in mutt and I accidentally hit ctrl+alt+backspace which exited X. Is there any way to recover that email? Try running 'vim -r'. This will list all swap files. Then run 'vim -r filename'. See :help swap-file for details about swap files. HTH, Moshe - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpynypyBRgea.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Zsh - Home, End, Delete
* Gabriel Fernndez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/06/05 00:41]: El Lun 06 Jun 2005 17:57, Pingveno escribi: In zsh, I'd like to use the Home, Delete and End key to get to the beginning of a line, do forward delete, and get to the end of the line. However, I only see a ~ character entered. Any fix? -- Linux User #340304 you have to put something like that in your .zshrc #Rebind HOME and END to do the decent thing: bindkey '^[[H' beginning-of-line bindkey '^[[F' end-of-line case $TERM in (xterm*) bindkey '\eOH' beginning-of-line bindkey '\eOF' end-of-line esac You can also use the zkbd function to refer to keys by name rather than using the escape sequences: source ~/.zkbd/$TERM-$VENDOR-$OSTYPE bindkey $key[End] end-of-line etc. This has the advantages that it is clearer and terminal independent. See man zshcontrib and search for 'zkbd' for details. HTH Moshe pgp4zz6JvZ4Fz.pgp Description: PGP signature
