[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-29 Thread Harry Putnam
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes:

 Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes:


 Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan?

 emerge fping
 man fping

 fping -g 192.168.222.0/24


 searches quite fast and accurate...

Yup, that's quick and easy... thanks 




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-27 Thread James
Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes:


 Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan?

emerge fping
man fping

fping -g 192.168.222.0/24


searches quite fast and accurate...


hth,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 May 2011 15:28:04 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Just one simple command found all machines active on the home lan
 including those with DHCP served addresses:
 
 netdiscover -i eth0 ENTER

Thanks, I wasn't aware of netdiscover and it's a perfect fit for
something I needed this week.


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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-05-25, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do
 this problem.

 Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have
 connected by way of DHCP.  For example: Several wireless connections.

 I've used static IPs for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for
 things like ssh between home lan computers. 

 But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections.  It must be
 such a popular method for some reason.

 But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to
 something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the
 address?

The best thing to do is to use a DHCP server and DNS server that are
connected somehow.  Then hostnames just work.  Or you can
statically assign IP addresses in the DHCP server so that DHCP clients
always get hard-wired IP addresses that match up with the /etc/hosts
file on the DNS server.

I use OpenWRT for WAP, DNS, and DHCP, and it all pretty much just
works.  When a DHCP client is assigned an IP address, the DNS server
knows about it and you can access it by it's hostname just the way you
would with a static setup.

For various reasons, I assign static IP addresses to a number of
devices, but I do it via the DHCP server's configuration, not by
configuring each individual device.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] network discovery tools

2011-05-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:

[...]

 But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to
 something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the
 address?

 The best thing to do is to use a DHCP server and DNS server that are
 connected somehow.  Then hostnames just work.  Or you can
 statically assign IP addresses in the DHCP server so that DHCP clients
 always get hard-wired IP addresses that match up with the /etc/hosts
 file on the DNS server.

 I use OpenWRT for WAP, DNS, and DHCP, and it all pretty much just
 works.  When a DHCP client is assigned an IP address, the DNS server
 knows about it and you can access it by it's hostname just the way you
 would with a static setup.

 For various reasons, I assign static IP addresses to a number of
 devices, but I do it via the DHCP server's configuration, not by
 configuring each individual device.

That sounds like a good plan... and worth some thought.  However I was
only asking to find IPs on the home lan after the fact.  Not the
general question of how to setup the lan (though I welcome the ideas
you present).

I seem to have latched onto a tool by a bit more googling, and getting
lucky, called netdiscover that is in portage now.

Just one simple command found all machines active on the home lan
including those with DHCP served addresses:

netdiscover -i eth0 ENTER

Oddly a similar command but aimed at a range misses a few:

netdiscover -i eth0 -r 192.168.0.0/24 ENTER

I guess the tool may use some heuristics if you give it less info.

And for one reason or another a plain `arp' command misses several of
those discovered with `netdiscover -i eth0'

So I found what I needed... thanks.