[gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sun, 17 May 2015 14:41:21 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed that, when running linux, the end result of selecting text can depend on which Desktop Environment you are using. Yes indeed. If the DE comes with a clipboard manager (most do), it pays to play around with the manager's config until the clipboard stops annoying you. Whether or not it syncs with the X clipboard and/or whether it requires an explicit 'copy' command (as opposed to picking up mere highlighting) should be set to suit the user's habits, rather than the user trying to conform to the clipboard manager's defaults.
[gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Mon, 18 May 2015 09:07:34 +0300 Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2015 06:26:31 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 May 2015 02:56:43 Daniel Frey wrote: I usually use Alt+D on the keyboard, it moves the caret to the location bar and highlights its text, and I just checked, it doesn't touch the clipboard. Useful tip! I didn't know about Alt+D, thanks for sharing. :-) The same does Ctrl-L. ctrl+k does the same thing for the search box. (And if the search box is hidden in your UI, ctrl+k opens about:home and puts the carat in its search box.) For browsers a lot of things are mousey, but for inherently type-y things, I really like the keyboard shortcuts. All (or most) Fx ones are listed at https://support.mozilla.org/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 05/19/2015 09:35 AM, »Q« wrote: ctrl+k does the same thing for the search box. (And if the search box is hidden in your UI, ctrl+k opens about:home and puts the carat in its search box.) For browsers a lot of things are mousey, but for inherently type-y things, I really like the keyboard shortcuts. All (or most) Fx ones are listed at https://support.mozilla.org/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly. I didn't know that either. I've always found Alt+D the easiest to use, and the search box to me is Alt+D then Tab. Dan
[gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 2015-05-17, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:16:16 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: [clicking the URL text field doesn't select the entire string, just makes it active.] 1) Is this by design? Is this the normal behaviour? Yes. That's how text widgets always work on Unix. Unfortunately not :( Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. Bastards. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Spreading peanut at butter reminds me of gmail.comopera!! I wonder why?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Mon, 18 May 2015 06:26:31 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 May 2015 02:56:43 Daniel Frey wrote: On 05/17/2015 02:54 PM, Mick wrote: Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. As has already been commented, this won't work with FF, which replaces the clipboard when I necessarily double click to select the content of the address bar. I didn't even know Firefox had this behaviour when clicking the address bar, because it's something I never do. I usually use Alt+D on the keyboard, it moves the caret to the location bar and highlights its text, and I just checked, it doesn't touch the clipboard. Dan Useful tip! I didn't know about Alt+D, thanks for sharing. :-) The same does Ctrl-L.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 05/18/2015 02:07 PM, Gevisz wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2015 06:26:31 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 May 2015 02:56:43 Daniel Frey wrote: On 05/17/2015 02:54 PM, Mick wrote: Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. As has already been commented, this won't work with FF, which replaces the clipboard when I necessarily double click to select the content of the address bar. I didn't even know Firefox had this behaviour when clicking the address bar, because it's something I never do. I usually use Alt+D on the keyboard, it moves the caret to the location bar and highlights its text, and I just checked, it doesn't touch the clipboard. Dan Useful tip! I didn't know about Alt+D, thanks for sharing. :-) The same does Ctrl-L. Thanks to all those who commented. The Alt D Alt L were good ones, but I took Pauls advice and had a look at the config, which worked a treat. In turn I might have a look at fixing the bug that Bruce mentioned. Regards, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 05/17/2015 02:54 PM, Mick wrote: Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. As has already been commented, this won't work with FF, which replaces the clipboard when I necessarily double click to select the content of the address bar. I didn't even know Firefox had this behaviour when clicking the address bar, because it's something I never do. I usually use Alt+D on the keyboard, it moves the caret to the location bar and highlights its text, and I just checked, it doesn't touch the clipboard. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sun, 17 May 2015 22:54:19 +0100, Mick wrote: Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. True, it's not that problem, but it is still a problem in other ways, or an annoyance at best. And unlike Firefox, there does not appear to be a way to change it. -- Neil Bothwick Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do practice? pgp6Nf2XgK68h.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 05/16/2015 10:52 PM, Andrew Lowe wrote: I've been using Firefox for ages and something struck me recently as a bit odd. In the Windows version, if I click up into the address or search boxes, the existing contents are highlighted and if I begin typing, the existing text is deleted and what I'm typing becomes the contents. On the Linux version, under KDE, it doesn't. I've noticed that, when running linux, the end result of selecting text can depend on which Desktop Environment you are using. Some DE's apparently interpose themselves between the ancient behavior of the X server and their own implementations of clipboard. For better or worse, you are always running the same DE under Windows, so the behavior of text selection should change only when Windows crashes :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sunday 17 May 2015 19:49:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:16:16 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: and if I begin typing, the existing text is deleted and what I'm typing becomes the contents. On the Linux version, under KDE, it doesn't. I have to click into the appropriate edit box, highlight the contents and start typing or hit either home/end and then start deleting before typing my new URL. If, for example, the existing text happens to be a google search string, this can be quite a bit of text to delete. So my question, I suppose, is multipart: 1) Is this by design? Is this the normal behaviour? Yes. That's how text widgets always work on Unix. Unfortunately not :( Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. As has already been commented, this won't work with FF, which replaces the clipboard when I necessarily double click to select the content of the address bar. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Monday 18 May 2015 02:56:43 Daniel Frey wrote: On 05/17/2015 02:54 PM, Mick wrote: Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. This is not a problem at all, because this address bar auto-highlighting in Chromium does not take over the system clipboard. When I click once it selects the whole address and I can delete it, before I middle click to insert whatever was in the clipboard. As has already been commented, this won't work with FF, which replaces the clipboard when I necessarily double click to select the content of the address bar. I didn't even know Firefox had this behaviour when clicking the address bar, because it's something I never do. I usually use Alt+D on the keyboard, it moves the caret to the location bar and highlights its text, and I just checked, it doesn't touch the clipboard. Dan Useful tip! I didn't know about Alt+D, thanks for sharing. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On 2015-05-17, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: I've been using Firefox for ages and something struck me recently as a bit odd. In the Windows version, if I click up into the address or search boxes, the existing contents are highlighted Yeat, I _hate_ that. and if I begin typing, the existing text is deleted and what I'm typing becomes the contents. On the Linux version, under KDE, it doesn't. I have to click into the appropriate edit box, highlight the contents and start typing or hit either home/end and then start deleting before typing my new URL. If, for example, the existing text happens to be a google search string, this can be quite a bit of text to delete. So my question, I suppose, is multipart: 1) Is this by design? Is this the normal behaviour? Yes. That's how text widgets always work on Unix. 2) Have I set a USE flag wrong somewhere that causes this behaviour? Nope, that is the correct behavior. 3) How do people get around the problem I mentioned above regarding long URL's, such as a Google search results? It's not a problem. The way Windows works is a problem. On Linux, if I want to replace what's already there I either: 1) double-click on the URL to select it, then type the replacement. or 2) click in the text field, then hit Ctrl-A Ctrl-K, then type the replacement. The second option requires you have emacs keybindings enabled. Which you should. :) -- G
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sun, 17 May 2015 18:16:16 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: and if I begin typing, the existing text is deleted and what I'm typing becomes the contents. On the Linux version, under KDE, it doesn't. I have to click into the appropriate edit box, highlight the contents and start typing or hit either home/end and then start deleting before typing my new URL. If, for example, the existing text happens to be a google search string, this can be quite a bit of text to delete. So my question, I suppose, is multipart: 1) Is this by design? Is this the normal behaviour? Yes. That's how text widgets always work on Unix. Unfortunately not :( Chromium now selects the whole URL when you click in the address bar. I'm not sure when it started doing this but it was quite recently. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 010: Reserved for future mistakes by our developers pgpAvd64lEZuK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
