Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-20 Thread Philip Webb 
151220 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 20 December 2015 05:19:13 CET, Philip Webb  wrote:
>> My Fstab has long had these lines :
>>  # NB The next line is critical for boot!
>>  none   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0
>> When did this change & why ?  Does anyone know ?
> It's been deprecated for a while.  Not sure when, it was in a news item.
> It certainly hasn't been in stage3 tarballs for the past 2 years.

I checked the default Fstab which came with Stage 3
& there's no sign of it, so I deleted it, rebooted & everything works.
There were also these lines :
  # >= glibc 2.2 expect tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm
  # for POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
  # tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk
  # and will use almost no memory if not populated with files.
  # Adding the following line should take care of this:
  none   /dev/shm   tmpfs   defaults   0 0
I deleted them too & it seems to have had no effect.

However, I was amused to see that the Stage 3 Fstab does have the line :
  /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy   auto   noauto   0 0
Does anyone still use diskettes ?  Today's mobos have no slot for them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-20 Thread J. Roeleveld 
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 05:54:19 AM Philip Webb wrote:
> 151220 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On 20 December 2015 05:19:13 CET, Philip Webb  
wrote:
> >> My Fstab has long had these lines :
> >>  # NB The next line is critical for boot!
> >>  none   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0
> >> 
> >> When did this change & why ?  Does anyone know ?
> > 
> > It's been deprecated for a while.  Not sure when, it was in a news item.
> > It certainly hasn't been in stage3 tarballs for the past 2 years.
> 
> I checked the default Fstab which came with Stage 3
> & there's no sign of it, so I deleted it, rebooted & everything works.
> There were also these lines :
>   # >= glibc 2.2 expect tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm
>   # for POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
>   # tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk
>   # and will use almost no memory if not populated with files.
>   # Adding the following line should take care of this:
>   none   /dev/shm   tmpfs   defaults   0 0
> I deleted them too & it seems to have had no effect.
> 
> However, I was amused to see that the Stage 3 Fstab does have the line :
>   /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy   auto   noauto   0 0
> Does anyone still use diskettes ?  Today's mobos have no slot for them.

I actually still have a drive and some diskettes.
I also have a USB diskdrive somewhere...

Haven't actually checked any mobos for floppy-connectors. Got some old ones 
that do have a connector.

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-20 Thread Daniel Frey 
On 12/20/2015 02:54 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
> However, I was amused to see that the Stage 3 Fstab does have the line :
>   /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy   auto   noauto   0 0
> Does anyone still use diskettes ?  Today's mobos have no slot for them.
> 

I have a USB floppy drive around for those BIOSes that have trouble
updating firmware from USB. I remember once there was a fix in the BIOS
update to make updating from USB work but you either needed a) a Windows
install or b) a floppy drive to apply the update.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-19 Thread J. Roeleveld 
On 20 December 2015 05:19:13 CET, Philip Webb  wrote:
>151219 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 12/19/2015 05:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:02:54 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
>Thelma> none   /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=0666  
>0 0
>> none   /proc   proc
>> defaults   0 0  
>Neil> You're trying to mount /proc/bus/usb before mounting /proc.
>> Systemd takes care of such things,  
>> but with Openrc local mounts are mounted in the order they appear in
>> fstab. Try switching the lines.  
>Philip> That looks like the explanation to me : has Thelma tried this ?
>Neil> Looking at it again, I don't think either of those entries
>> should be in fstab, certainly not the /proc one.
>Thelma> Good hint, thank you.  I've removed both lines from fstab:
>> and the system booted normally with openrc-0.18.4
>> Question, why isn't 'none /proc proc defaults 0 0' needed anymore ?
>> All my other systems have this line in fstab.
>
>My own Fstab has long had these lines :
>
>  # NB The next line is critical for boot!
>  none   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0
>
>When did this change & why ?  Does anyone know ?

It's been deprecated for a while.
Not sure when, think it was in a news item.

It certainly hasn't been in stage3 tarballs for the past 2 years. (Unless it 
reappeared suddenly)
I know this because that's when I installed my laptop and that line never was 
there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-19 Thread Philip Webb 
151219 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 12/19/2015 05:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:02:54 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
Thelma> none   /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=0666   0 0
> none   /procproc
> defaults0 0  
Neil> You're trying to mount /proc/bus/usb before mounting /proc.
> Systemd takes care of such things,  
> but with Openrc local mounts are mounted in the order they appear in
> fstab. Try switching the lines.  
Philip> That looks like the explanation to me : has Thelma tried this ?
Neil> Looking at it again, I don't think either of those entries
> should be in fstab, certainly not the /proc one.
Thelma> Good hint, thank you.  I've removed both lines from fstab:
> and the system booted normally with openrc-0.18.4
> Question, why isn't 'none /proc proc defaults 0 0' needed anymore ?
> All my other systems have this line in fstab.

My own Fstab has long had these lines :

  # NB The next line is critical for boot!
  none   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0

When did this change & why ?  Does anyone know ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-19 Thread thelma 
On 12/19/2015 05:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:02:54 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> 
 none   /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=0666   0 0
 none   /proc proc
 defaults 0 0  
>>> You're trying to mount /proc/bus/usb before mounting /proc.
>>> Systemd takes care of such things,  
 but with Openrc local mounts are mounted in the order they appear in
 fstab. Try switching the lines.  
>>
>> That looks like the explanation to me : has Thelma tried this ?
> 
> Looking at it again, I don't think either of those entries should be in
> fstab, certainly not the /proc one.

Good hint, thank you.
I've removed both lines from fstab:
# Scanner
none   /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=0666   0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0

and the system booted normally with  openrc-0.18.4

Question, why isn't the line:
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
needed anymore?

All my other systems have this line in fstab.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] no network "eth0" after upgrade.

2015-12-19 Thread thelma 
On 12/19/2015 09:19 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 151219 the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 12/19/2015 05:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 19:02:54 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> Thelma> none   /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=0666   0 0
>> none   /proc   proc
>> defaults   0 0  
> Neil> You're trying to mount /proc/bus/usb before mounting /proc.
>> Systemd takes care of such things,  
>> but with Openrc local mounts are mounted in the order they appear in
>> fstab. Try switching the lines.  
> Philip> That looks like the explanation to me : has Thelma tried this ?
> Neil> Looking at it again, I don't think either of those entries
>> should be in fstab, certainly not the /proc one.
> Thelma> Good hint, thank you.  I've removed both lines from fstab:
>> and the system booted normally with openrc-0.18.4
>> Question, why isn't 'none /proc proc defaults 0 0' needed anymore ?
>> All my other systems have this line in fstab.
> 
> My own Fstab has long had these lines :
> 
>   # NB The next line is critical for boot!
>   none   /proc   proc   defaults   0 0
> 
> When did this change & why ?  Does anyone know ?

I would like to know that too!

Indeed I had same comments on some of my other systems, but it seems to
me this line is no longer needed.  I'm compiling two other backup system
and commented these line out from fstab, let see what happens.

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