RE: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
> Jack wrote: > > On 2021.10.05 15:32, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of > >> Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement > >> > >> Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev > >> to: sys-fs/udev > >> > >> is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev emerge sys-fs/udev > > Have you read the news item? It's not quite that literal about what > > to do, but does imply that should work. However, on 15 Sep there was > > a post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to > > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that > > there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not > > abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be > > dropped or not. > > > > > > > When I switched from udev to eudev, it was as simple as uninstalling udev and > installing eudev. I'd think as you do the reverse would work now as well but > as you point out, it may not. I'd recommend going to a console to do this > and logging out of any GUIs as well. Of course restarting udev afterwards as > well. > > I also saw the post about new maintainers. I'm hopeful that it will keep > being maintained even tho it can be a headache for devs at times. Thing is, > I've read a lot of distros use eudev and avoid the systemd version as much as > possible, even tho eudev still has the same code from my understanding. > Still, I'd rather stick with what works for me. > > Maybe we will know pretty soon what the status of this will be. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > I was also glad to hear about the new maintainers. The day after I heard the project had served its purpose and was being abandoned I went to update one of my few systems with udev instead of eudev and the build crashed and it took me a couple hours to trick it into compiling correctly. I was a little worried that might end up being prophetic. Whatever the exact differences are, eudev still seems to build a little more reliably. Maybe it's just that the project does a better job of informing people about changes to the build requirements... LMP
Re: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
Jack wrote: > On 2021.10.05 15:32, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of >> Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement >> >> Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev >> to: sys-fs/udev >> >> is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev >> emerge sys-fs/udev > Have you read the news item? It's not quite that literal about what > to do, but does imply that should work. However, on 15 Sep there was > a post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that > there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not > abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be > dropped or not. > > When I switched from udev to eudev, it was as simple as uninstalling udev and installing eudev. I'd think as you do the reverse would work now as well but as you point out, it may not. I'd recommend going to a console to do this and logging out of any GUIs as well. Of course restarting udev afterwards as well. I also saw the post about new maintainers. I'm hopeful that it will keep being maintained even tho it can be a headache for devs at times. Thing is, I've read a lot of distros use eudev and avoid the systemd version as much as possible, even tho eudev still has the same code from my understanding. Still, I'd rather stick with what works for me. Maybe we will know pretty soon what the status of this will be. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
On 2021.10.05 15:32, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev to: sys-fs/udev is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev emerge sys-fs/udev Have you read the news item? It's not quite that literal about what to do, but does imply that should work. However, on 15 Sep there was a post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be dropped or not.
[gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev to: sys-fs/udev is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev emerge sys-fs/udev
[gentoo-user] 2021-08-19-mc-legacy-config-dirs
i am a little confused about the news 2021-08-19 in the 4.8.26 ebuilds the use flag is +xdg. with 4.8.26 everything is ok. 4.8.27 does not show me e.g. man-pages correctly, only source, no format. i put a file in dir /etc/portage/package.use with: app-misc/mc xdg it has no effect i use temp USE="xdg" emerge app-misc/mc it has no effect. what is wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
It's not quite the new year for everyone yet. Still got a little under 8
hours here. But still, I reciprocate. Happy new year everyone!
On 12/31/2020 9:26 AM, bobwxc wrote:
在 2020/12/25 下午7:00, Michael 写道:
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:11:19 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
{@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!
{@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck!
{@} * {@} * {@}
\ \ \ 2021 / / /
And thank you all for the help you trying to provide.
That is what distinguish Gentoo community from other forums.
Best festive wishes to all Gentoo users and devs! :-)
Now is 2021! Happy New Year!
Hope all of us and the world will get better in 2021.
--
Dan Egli
From my Test Server
Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
在 2020/12/25 下午7:00, Michael 写道:
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:11:19 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
{@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!
{@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck!
{@} * {@} * {@}
\ \ \ 2021 / / /
And thank you all for the help you trying to provide.
That is what distinguish Gentoo community from other forums.
Best festive wishes to all Gentoo users and devs! :-)
Now is 2021! Happy New Year!
Hope all of us and the world will get better in 2021.
--
bobwxc
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Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, December 25, 2020 4:32 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:07:59 +, caveman رجل الكهف wrote: > > > hi. i just want to help a bit by sharing a > > thought that i think is useful to the civilisation > > of life forms in general: > > > > - new year celebrations are wasteful in > > several ways (e.g. waste on needless > > purchases [aka gifts], useless fireworks, > > useless trees with socks on them, etc). > > > > - the vacation is nice to allow potential good > > use of it. but even this is usually abused > > by most people as they end up just wasting > > it alongside their money for purely doing > > silly things such as purposeless tourism. > > > > Dear Ebenezer, > > Some of us would welcome the opportunity to waste time with their > families over Christmas and the New Year, instead of having to spend it > isolating at home following a positive COVID-19 test. > > Don't underestimate the therapeutic value of doing nothing with the people > that are important to you. i'm not against that. in fact, this goes in the list of the productive things. remember, i said "not limited to"? i literally stated that my list of productive things is not exhaustive. spending time with family is productive, since it's an opportunity to inspect the situation of family members to help them become even better people. this happens implicitly even though dad/mom doesn't say "hey kids time for annual performance inspection!". it's part of us which we inherited from evolution that actually helps maximise our survival. there is a reason why we've evolved to like it. but, worthy to note, not everything we like is good. e.g. there are bugs in evolution. e.g. some people enjoy drugs up to a point they become addicts. this is not inline with survival maximisation, so we can say this is a vulnerability in evolution that drug dealers try to exploit. rgrds, ebonzer.
Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:11 PM, wrote:
> {@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!
> {@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck!
> {@} * {@} * {@}
> \ \ \ 2021 / / /
>
> And thank you all for the help you trying to provide.
> That is what distinguish Gentoo community from other forums.
hi. i just want to help a bit by sharing a
thought that i think is useful to the civilisation
of life forms in general:
- new year celebrations are wasteful in
several ways (e.g. waste on needless
purchases [aka gifts], useless fireworks,
useless trees with socks on them, etc).
- the vacation is nice to allow potential good
use of it. but even this is usually abused
by most people as they end up just wasting
it alongside their money for purely doing
silly things such as purposeless tourism.
- i hope that, one day, humanity won't do such
useless things, and --instead-- we re-direct
the otherwise-wasted resources into actually
useful things such as (not limited to):
* contributions to scientific
research.
* foss projects.
* ...
* purchase of scientific books/tools for
smart kids that love science, but live in
situations where their parents are unable
to afford as such to them.
i personally think this last point to be
the best investment in the long-run. most
likely today we lack potentially great
scientists because they simply got wasted
due to lack of funding during their
childhood. likewise today's science
potentially lags centuries behind what it
would've been if we had taken this point
more seriously centuries ago.
it's never too early to start acting better.
Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:07:59 +, caveman رجل الكهف wrote: > hi. i just want to help a bit by sharing a > thought that i think is useful to the civilisation > of life forms in general: > > - new year celebrations are wasteful in > several ways (e.g. waste on needless > purchases [aka gifts], useless fireworks, > useless trees with socks on them, etc). > > - the vacation is nice to allow potential good > use of it. but even this is usually abused > by most people as they end up just wasting > it alongside their money for purely doing > silly things such as purposeless tourism. Dear Ebenezer, Some of us would welcome the opportunity to waste time with their families over Christmas and the New Year, instead of having to spend it isolating at home following a positive COVID-19 test. Don't underestimate the therapeutic value of doing nothing with the people that are important to you. -- Neil Bothwick To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. pgp5v6ZQEktDS.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:11:19 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> {@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!
> {@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck!
> {@} * {@} * {@}
> \ \ \ 2021 / / /
>
> And thank you all for the help you trying to provide.
> That is what distinguish Gentoo community from other forums.
Best festive wishes to all Gentoo users and devs! :-)
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[gentoo-user] \ \ \ 2021 / / /
{@} * {@} * {@} Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year!
{@} * {@} * {@} * {@} Wish you all extra ordinary good luck!
{@} * {@} * {@}
\ \ \ 2021 / / /
And thank you all for the help you trying to provide.
That is what distinguish Gentoo community from other forums.
