Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Keith Dart:
 === On Thu, 08/20, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ===

  The 'dmesg' command and the ~/.xsession-errors
  and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files should contain the specific error
  messages.

 ===

 X errors might actually be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old by then.

Sorry for not answering earlier, but I rebuilt another kde4 version, starting 
from a clean system backup. I'm finished now and had my first test login. Of 
course, the problem is still there, but neither dmesg nor any Xorg*.log 
contains glibc.

~/.xsession-errors however was a little more informative, but only a little.
I've attached the relevant parts, but they don't tell much.
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kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konsole.so
kded: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
klauncher: Exiting on signal 15
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed

kglobalaccel(5653) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::unregisterKey: Unregistering key Ctrl+F9 for kwin : Expose
[ 40 more of them ]
kglobalaccel(5653) GlobalShortcutsRegistry::unregisterKey: Unregistering key Ctrl+Alt+V for klipper : show_klipper_popup

kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.
Unexpected response from KInit (response = -1207865328).
startkde: Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.
KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
klauncher: Exiting on signal 15
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
drkonqi: cannot connect to X server :1.0
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
kglobalaccel: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
ksmserver: Fatal IO error: client killed
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
NepomukServer(5707)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig:
kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.
~

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 20 August 2009, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Keith Dart:
  === On Thu, 08/20, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ===
 
   The 'dmesg' command and the ~/.xsession-errors
   and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files should contain the specific error
   messages.
 
  ===
 
  X errors might actually be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old by then.

 Sorry for not answering earlier, but I rebuilt another kde4 version,
 starting from a clean system backup. I'm finished now and had my first test
 login. Of course, the problem is still there, but neither dmesg nor any
 Xorg*.log contains glibc.

 ~/.xsession-errors however was a little more informative, but only a
 little. I've attached the relevant parts, but they don't tell much.


startkde: Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.
KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...

check your permissions - and make a rebuild of glibcco



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:

   X errors might actually be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old by then.
 
  Sorry for not answering earlier, but I rebuilt another kde4 version,
  starting from a clean system backup. I'm finished now and had my first
  test login. Of course, the problem is still there, but neither dmesg nor
  any Xorg*.log contains glibc.
 
  ~/.xsession-errors however was a little more informative, but only a
  little. I've attached the relevant parts, but they don't tell much.

 startkde: Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.
 KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...

 check your permissions - and make a rebuild of glibcco

Which permissions do you mean in particular? It's a fresh install with a newly 
created test user acount.

I've disabled desktop effects, in case there was some clash with the 3D layer, 
but apparently it's (also) something else. Though now Konsole seems to 
cooperate, right-clicking on the context menu of the KPowersave tray icon 
leads to a crashing X with 100% certainty. I'm rebuild glibc now, see what 
happens.
-- 
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The first time you’ll get a Microsoft product that doesn’t suck
will be the day they start producing vacuum cleaners.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Frank Steinmetzgerwar...@gmx.de wrote:
 I've disabled desktop effects, in case there was some clash with the 3D layer,
 but apparently it's (also) something else. Though now Konsole seems to
 cooperate, right-clicking on the context menu of the KPowersave tray icon
 leads to a crashing X with 100% certainty. I'm rebuild glibc now, see what
 happens.

That's exactly the kind of problems I was having, and went away when I
redefined all of the fonts in System Settings - Appearance - Fonts.
I don't think it even matters which font you change it to, just that
you change it to something. IIRC it had generic font family like Sans
Serif instead of specific font names. FWIW. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 20 August 2009, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
X errors might actually be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old by then.
  
   Sorry for not answering earlier, but I rebuilt another kde4 version,
   starting from a clean system backup. I'm finished now and had my first
   test login. Of course, the problem is still there, but neither dmesg
   nor any Xorg*.log contains glibc.
  
   ~/.xsession-errors however was a little more informative, but only a
   little. I've attached the relevant parts, but they don't tell much.
 
  startkde: Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.
  KCrash: Application 'ksmserver' crashing...
 
  check your permissions - and make a rebuild of glibcco

 Which permissions do you mean in particular? It's a fresh install with a
 newly created test user acount.

 I've disabled desktop effects, in case there was some clash with the 3D
 layer, but apparently it's (also) something else. Though now Konsole seems
 to cooperate, right-clicking on the context menu of the KPowersave tray
 icon leads to a crashing X with 100% certainty. I'm rebuild glibc now, see
 what happens.

permissions of /tmp /var/tmp and the kde stuff in /usr/share.

make sure that all of your system is build with the same compiler.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Paul Hartman:
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Frank Steinmetzgerwar...@gmx.de wrote:
  I've disabled desktop effects, in case there was some clash with the 3D
  layer, but apparently it's (also) something else. Though now Konsole
  seems to cooperate, right-clicking on the context menu of the KPowersave
  tray icon leads to a crashing X with 100% certainty. I'm rebuild glibc
  now, see what happens.

 That's exactly the kind of problems I was having, and went away when I
 redefined all of the fonts in System Settings - Appearance - Fonts.
 I don't think it even matters which font you change it to, just that
 you change it to something. IIRC it had generic font family like Sans
 Serif instead of specific font names. FWIW. :)

I've only changed font sizes, not the families. Besides, kdelibs contained a 
gentoo patch changing the default to Dejavu, so they're all set to Dejavu 
already. I've changed them to courier new, and I got a crash, this time with 
context menu of the KDE4 notification icon (i).

And lol - now I can't even open system settings anymore. Perhaps it's 
something with font rendering. Deleting .fonts.conf, I could open system 
settings again, but still I can't open a context menu without a crash.
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[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/21/2009 12:37 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Alan McKinnon:


I get occasional crashes with various odd KDE4 apps, like:

Moving two bookmark folders around in Edit BookMarks is certain to crash.
kmail crashes while doing deleting several mails on IMAP folders in quick
succession.
Kopete crashed regularly today while shuffling contacts around.


But there, only the app crashes, as I understand. Here it brings X down as
well. OTOH, I actually didn't have any application crashes in the short time
I tried it out in my previous install half a week ago.


Stupid question, but did you run revdep-rebuild?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2009 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:

  But there, only the app crashes, as I understand. Here it brings X down
  as well. OTOH, I actually didn't have any application crashes in the
  short time I tried it out in my previous install half a week ago.

 Stupid question, but did you run revdep-rebuild?

Of course. I did before I started installing kde4, and also now, which only 
revealed some missing links for kde3 apps, because I had to remove kde3's 
bluetooth packages.
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[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/20/2009 02:34 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

Hi guys,

until now I've been quite a KDE4 hater, but I'm willing to give it a try from
time to time. So I installed 4.3 parallel to my beloved 3.5.10 and was quite
pleased with it. However, I have repeating crashes of my entire X. Mostly it
happens when I open Konsole, the next often occasion is opening a menu (main
menu, context menu, you name it), but also only after a Konsole windows was
opened. All I see is a quick error message about glibc, then X restarts and
I'm back at kdm.


The 'dmesg' command and the ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
files should contain the specific error messages.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE4: Constant crashes in conjunction with Konsole

2009-08-19 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Thu, 08/20, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: ===
 The 'dmesg' command and the ~/.xsession-errors
 and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files should contain the specific error
 messages.

===

X errors might actually be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old by then.



-- Keith Dart

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