[gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread James

Well, I know I'm asking for a few flames here, but, this
idea just popped into my head and I cannot get rid of it.


When you sync and update a system that has not been updated for
a while, you get many packages to upgrade. OK usually not a problem.
However, myself (and many other folks) are rather lazy: we do
not watch the terminal session for hours, looking for those tidbits
of info of little pesky admin things to do upon updating a package
(let alone dozens of packages).

We are also lazy: we do not parse the log files looking for those
'little pesky admin things to do upon updating a package'
either.


Much pain results for lots of regular folks, like forgetting to 
run 'python-updater'. So any ideas on an enhancement/fix?


Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.

Just a thought, I figured I'd put up here for discussion. In fact
some of the younger/sharper minds should come up with an even
slicker way for those instructions to hang around, so that us
lazy admins are forced into a convenient click or 2 to dismiss
these little pesky admin caveats?

thoughts?



James






Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote:

 Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
 pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
 yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
 package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
 action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.

Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a
separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any
combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I
have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread Joshua D Doll

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote:

  

Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.



Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a
separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any
combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I
have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages.


  
I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run 
updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too.



--Joshua Doll



Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread Dale

Joshua D Doll wrote:

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote:

 

Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.



Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a
separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any
combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I
have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages.


  
I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've 
run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too.



--Joshua Doll




I use elogviewer myself.  Works pretty good.  I can also clear out the 
old logs when I have everything updated and stable as well.  Gives me a 
fresh start for next time. 


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread Matt Harrison

Joshua D Doll wrote:

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote:

 

Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.



Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a
separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any
combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, although I
have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages.


  
I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've run 
updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too.


Sounds like a really useful tool, but I can't see where to get it.

According to eix, the only elog tools are direct viewers. I'd really 
like one that can email me, where can I find it?


Thanks

Matt




Re: [gentoo-user] idea on updates

2008-08-28 Thread Dale

Matt Harrison wrote:

Joshua D Doll wrote:

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:22:00 + (UTC), James wrote:

 

Why, could the dev add an option that parses out all of those
pesky admin things into either a singular log file? Or better
yet, a gui popup that lists just those instructions for each
package. Then a lazy admin could go through them, take whatever
action necessary, and then just kill the pop-up.



Do you mean like the elog system that can write this information to a
separate log file, email it to you, pass it to a command or any
combination of these? There are also elog viewers in portage, 
although I

have no experience of these, I use my mailer to read these messages.


  
I concur elog is great. I have it e-mail me a single file after I've 
run updates or installed anything. It's stupid simple to setup too.


Sounds like a really useful tool, but I can't see where to get it.

According to eix, the only elog tools are direct viewers. I'd really 
like one that can email me, where can I find it?


Thanks

Matt





I don't use the email feature but I got this from man make.conf:

PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES

  PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM

  PORTAGE_ELOG_COMMAND

  PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI

  PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM

  PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT
 Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for 
elog documentation.


I would look at the make.conf.example file to see how to set that up.

Dale

:-)  :-)