Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-03 Thread François-Xavier Carton
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 10:12:08PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > I am afraid this is an ".. it depends" question. > Yes, I agree. > If you work with large images or data sets, swap can be really handy.  > If you are doing a little programming, web browsing, reading email you > will

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Серега Филатов
I want to say that it really depends on this: - What do you do on your system (what applications do you use, what DE, how is your production ram-hungry, maybe it is some large application that you're contributing on) - How do you do things on your system (shutting down machine every day or

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:54:02 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> I'd be interested to know as a comparison if Nikos' and Dale's I/O >>> unresponsiveness in swapping sees an improvement with the I/O scheduler >>> for >>> spinning drives set to bfq; e.g.: >>> >>> echo bfq >

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread William Kenworthy
I am afraid this is an ".. it depends" question. If you work with large images or data sets, swap can be really handy.  If you are doing a little programming, web browsing, reading email you will *probably* be ok, but why risk it? I have a 32gb ram in a master server for an mfs filesystem - it

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:54:02 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > I'd be interested to know as a comparison if Nikos' and Dale's I/O > > unresponsiveness in swapping sees an improvement with the I/O scheduler > > for > > spinning drives set to bfq; e.g.: > > > > echo bfq >

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 2 May 2020 09:53:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Wols Lists wrote: >>> On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote: It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing. Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10. Given the cheapness

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 09:53:06 BST Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote: > >> It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing. > >> Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10. > >> > >> Given the cheapness of hard drives,

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-02 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote: >> It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing. >> Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10. >> >> Given the cheapness of hard drives, I'm not sure why having several >> gigabytes of swap space is

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread tuxic
On 05/01 04:50, Raphael MD wrote: > Hello! > > Could I turn my Linux swap off. > I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, because > I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? > > Thanks > -- > M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias > ​Nuclear Engineer | Reactors > > Secure e-mail:

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:08:24 BST Raphael MD wrote: > On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 18:49 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 1 May 2020 21:50:02 CEST, Raphael MD wrote: > > >Hello! > > > > > >Could I turn my Linux swap off. > > >I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, > > >because >

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:09:47 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote: > > It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing. > > Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10. > > > > Given the cheapness of hard drives, I'm not sure why

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 01/05/20 21:29, Dale wrote: > It gets really slow to respond when it uses swap but it beats crashing. > Just set swapiness to a low number. I think mine is set to 10. > > Given the cheapness of hard drives, I'm not sure why having several > gigabytes of swap space is of much concern. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Raphael MD
On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 18:49 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 1 May 2020 21:50:02 CEST, Raphael MD wrote: > >Hello! > > > >Could I turn my Linux swap off. > >I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, > >because > >I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? > > > >Thanks > > This question

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 May 2020 21:50:02 CEST, Raphael MD wrote: >Hello! > >Could I turn my Linux swap off. >I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, >because >I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? > >Thanks This question keeps getting asked every time people go past some imaginary large figure

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread tedheadster
Here is an article suggesting to have a _tiny_ bit of swap. They say as recently as 2019 that Linux under memory pressure acts poorly with _zero_ swap. https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2019/08/08/swap/ - Matthew

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 May 2020 15:04:12 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > I have 3 desktop machines with 32 GB of memory. In all 3 I still have > swap (32 GB, I stopped using the "twice the amount of RAM" rule years > ago). I don't think I have ever used one single byte from the swap; it > always sits with

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Dale
Raphael MD wrote: > Hello! > > Could I turn my Linux swap off. > I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, > because I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? > > Thanks > -- > M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias > ​Nuclear Engineer | Reactors > > Secure e-mail:

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, May 1, 2020, 14:50 Raphael MD wrote: > Hello! > > Could I turn my Linux swap off. > I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, because > I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? > > Thanks > I have 3 desktop machines with 32 GB of memory. In all 3 I still have swap (32 GB,

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On 2020-05-01 14:50, Raphael MD wrote: Could I turn my Linux swap off. I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, because I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? As long as you're only running Linux on the machine, I would say yes, you're safe to do that. If you're going to

Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
> Could I turn my Linux swap off. > I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, > because I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? yes.

[gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap

2020-05-01 Thread Raphael MD
Hello! Could I turn my Linux swap off. I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don’t need swap, because I’vea lot of RAM, is this true? Thanks -- M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias ​Nuclear Engineer | Reactors Secure e-mail: raphael.mejias.d...@protonmail.com PGP Key for raph...@gmail.com: