Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:54:23 +0200 Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:03:55 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What concerns me is that alsamixer nevers shows a volume control on Master anymore, and amixer says: Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined *--- no volume/pvolume* Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Also in alsamixer the IEC958 controls show no volume bar. Because they are no volume controls. Did you really modify them using amixer? It will output the new settings after successfully applying them. No master volume *does* make some sense for digital out... -hwh If you change the alsa driver source ,you may want to uninstall, then reinstall alsa-utils after clearing /etc/asound.state. But i do think Hans is onto something here... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Dan Farrell ha scritto: If you change the alsa driver source ,you may want to uninstall, then reinstall alsa-utils after clearing /etc/asound.state. But i do think Hans is onto something here... Solved. It was actually a very mundane hardware issue (cables). And yes, Hans is right. At least I learned something... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:05:59 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Managed to install alsa-driver (the unstable ones were needed). Nothing changes, except that now PCM has no volume bar, too. Sorry, I'm now left to some shots in the dark: Re-emerge alsa-libs and alsa-utils, too? There's not much that I could suggest otherwise at this point... -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hans-Werner Hilse ha scritto: Hi, On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:05:59 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Managed to install alsa-driver (the unstable ones were needed). Nothing changes, except that now PCM has no volume bar, too. Sorry, I'm now left to some shots in the dark: Re-emerge alsa-libs and alsa-utils, too? Done that, still stuck. There's not much that I could suggest otherwise at this point... I am pretty sure there's some dirty little detail I missed hiding somewhere. I'll have to relax and think carefully about all that... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:09:39 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. But the error isn't I won't compile., isn't it? With the information you provided (not), I'm currently lost, too :-) If you decide to compile external ALSA drivers, you have to make sure that your kernel isn't configured for internal ALSA drivers. It has, however, to be configured for basic sound support. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:03:55 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What concerns me is that alsamixer nevers shows a volume control on Master anymore, and amixer says: Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined *--- no volume/pvolume* Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Also in alsamixer the IEC958 controls show no volume bar. Because they are no volume controls. Did you really modify them using amixer? It will output the new settings after successfully applying them. No master volume *does* make some sense for digital out... -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. But the error isn't I won't compile., isn't it? With the information you provided (not), I'm currently lost, too :-) Yes, I know. But I already checked on Google, and the error seems to be related to kernel / alsa-drivers incompatibility, so I'm stuck. There is a little suggestion I have to try, however. If you decide to compile external ALSA drivers, you have to make sure that your kernel isn't configured for internal ALSA drivers. It has, however, to be configured for basic sound support I know that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hans-Werner Hilse ha scritto: Hi, On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:09:39 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. But the error isn't I won't compile., isn't it? With the information you provided (not), I'm currently lost, too :-) Managed to install alsa-driver (the unstable ones were needed). Nothing changes, except that now PCM has no volume bar, too. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:37:27 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, is there a switch for analog vs. digital audio output? The screenshot only shows a few controls. Yes. Just tried to switch them but nothing changes. Hm. That would include playing with those settings: Master switch, as you can see, digital output (Playback) is enabled, digital input (Capture) is disabled: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] I think those two relate to input/capture only: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Monitor',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Valid',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] I'm not sure about the next two items, maybe playing with them is a good idea, too: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Analog' 'Digital' Item0: 'Digital' If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hans-Werner Hilse ha scritto: Hm. That would include playing with those settings: Master switch, as you can see, digital output (Playback) is enabled, digital input (Capture) is disabled: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] Where do you see that? I think those two relate to input/capture only: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Monitor',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Valid',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] I'm not sure about the next two items, maybe playing with them is a good idea, too: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Analog' 'Digital' Item0: 'Digital' If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. I am extremly confused. How should those be set? I'm not that able to parse the amixer output, probably, so let me know more deeply. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:33:49 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] Where do you see that? Last line specifies the current settings. The mixer control IEC958 (which is the digital audio standard in use in the western world) is set to on for the Playback stream direction, and to off for the Capture stream direction. If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. I am extremly confused. How should those be set? I'm not that able to parse the amixer output, probably, so let me know more deeply. first try setting the control 'IEC958' to off for the Playback direction: $ amixer sset 'IEC958',0 playback off if that doesn't work out well, try the settings - 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 (can be set to values ranging between 0-3) - 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 (can be set to values 'Analog' or 'Digital') for those two, the option playback is optional, since according to the output you have given, those controls are only present for the playback direction. I think those controls might be in alsamixer, too, but amixer tends to be the most reliable and supportable method -- the output you have given is complete, so that I can at least tell that all the usual settings seem to be correct. I think the problem is hidden in those extended settings. I might be wrong and it might just be a bug in the driver, but somehow I doubt that -- although my doubts are not supported by any obvious hints, yet. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, I'm getting quite desperate. My soundcard is a SiS onboard AC'97 as lshw shows: description: Multimedia audio controller product: AC'97 Sound Controller vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] physical id: 2.7 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:02.7 version: a0 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=Intel ICH latency=32 maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=snd_intel8x0 Until 9 August, everything worked perfectly. Then I went on holiday, and yesterday I turned on my pc again. And I have no sound. Applications work *like* they output sound, but nothing comes. alsamixer shows that the master channel has no gauge -that is, it is not mute, but on top of it there is no volume bar whatsoever, and arrows do not raise one. I remember I had the same issue time ago with alsa-libs 1.0.11, and I had to downgrade to 1.0.10. So I thought something was broken again. I downgraded from 1.0.14 to 1.0.13, but nothing happened. I tried upgrading my kernel from 2.6.18 to 2.6.22. Nothing. I tried compiling ALSA as a kernel module, instead of built into the kernel as usual. Nothing. I *could* try portage alsa-drivers, but the card has always worked with in-kernel drivers, so I don't understand why shouldn't more be the case. Any hint? m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
On Sunday 19 August 2007, b.n. wrote: Hi, I'm getting quite desperate. My soundcard is a SiS onboard AC'97 as lshw shows: description: Multimedia audio controller product: AC'97 Sound Controller vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] physical id: 2.7 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:02.7 version: a0 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=Intel ICH latency=32 maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=snd_intel8x0 Until 9 August, everything worked perfectly. Then I went on holiday, and yesterday I turned on my pc again. And I have no sound. Applications work *like* they output sound, but nothing comes. alsamixer shows that the master channel has no gauge -that is, it is not mute, but on top of it there is no volume bar whatsoever, and arrows do not raise one. I remember I had the same issue time ago with alsa-libs 1.0.11, and I had to downgrade to 1.0.10. So I thought something was broken again. I downgraded from 1.0.14 to 1.0.13, but nothing happened. I tried upgrading my kernel from 2.6.18 to 2.6.22. Nothing. I tried compiling ALSA as a kernel module, instead of built into the kernel as usual. Nothing. I *could* try portage alsa-drivers, but the card has always worked with in-kernel drivers, so I don't understand why shouldn't more be the case. Any hint? Just in case this bares any resemblance to my earlier NIC problem, is your box also booting into MS Windows and did you run a MS Windows or OEM driver update since? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Mick ha scritto: Just in case this bares any resemblance to my earlier NIC problem, is your box also booting into MS Windows and did you run a MS Windows or OEM driver update since? No, it's a purely Linux box since 2004 :) m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
b.n. ha scritto: Hi, I'm getting quite desperate. My soundcard is a SiS onboard AC'97 as lshw shows: description: Multimedia audio controller product: AC'97 Sound Controller vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] physical id: 2.7 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:02.7 version: a0 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=Intel ICH latency=32 maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=snd_intel8x0 Until 9 August, everything worked perfectly. Then I went on holiday, and yesterday I turned on my pc again. And I have no sound. Applications work *like* they output sound, but nothing comes. alsamixer shows that the master channel has no gauge -that is, it is not mute, but on top of it there is no volume bar whatsoever, and arrows do not raise one. I remember I had the same issue time ago with alsa-libs 1.0.11, and I had to downgrade to 1.0.10. So I thought something was broken again. I downgraded from 1.0.14 to 1.0.13, but nothing happened. I tried upgrading my kernel from 2.6.18 to 2.6.22. Nothing. I tried compiling ALSA as a kernel module, instead of built into the kernel as usual. Nothing. I *could* try portage alsa-drivers, but the card has always worked with in-kernel drivers, so I don't understand why shouldn't more be the case. Any hint? Bump: I tried to follow a suggestion on #gentoo, that is: rebuilding ALSA as modules and then running alsaconf. Card correctly recognized, but nothing new happens. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
