Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-19 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: However, is this something to do with my firewall, or my sysctl setup? Neither. $ nc -l 192.168.0.1 -p 80 Can't grab 0.0.0.0:80 with bind : Permission denied You're not root and thus a process of yours cannot open ports <=1024. Alexander Skwar -- I

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-19 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:45:43 +0200 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > >> > >> If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. > > > > Thanks for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-19 Thread Ryan Tandy
Mick wrote: I don't know how I have managed without netcat all this time . . . it can do almost everything but take the dog out for a walk! :-)) Didn't you read the man page? > -W[dksa] > --walk=(dog,kid,spouse,away) $ sudo nc -Wd :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-19 Thread David Klempner
* Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-19 17:47]: > > However, is this something to do with my firewall, or my sysctl setup? > > $ nc -l 192.168.0.1 -p 80 > Can't grab 0.0.0.0:80 with bind : Permission denied > That would be because you need r

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-19 Thread Mick
On 19/06/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now you might want to encrypt the content. And that's where cryptcat might be handy. Thank you very much Alexander! I don't know how I have managed without netcat all this time . . . it can do almost everything but take the dog out fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: I'm off now emerging netcat, but I noticed that there's also cryptcat which I assume is only useful if the remote server has twofish encryption enabled? I suppose so. cryptcat makes then sense, when you use it as a server. With *netcat*, you can use it as a server: nc -l -

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Mick
On 18/06/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Netcat or gnu-netcat (not much of a difference, as far as I know). With netcat, you can either do SMTP manually (like you intended) or you can use netcat in the way it might have been originally intended; ie. as a "cat to net". To do the

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BUT: As there are no GLSAs, I'd say that there are no currently known security problems. Thanks! Out of the the apps mentioned in this thread, which one would you recommend Netcat or gnu-netcat (not much of a difference, a

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Mick
On 18/06/06, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nope. It acts like a telnet client after establishing an SSL connection: ---snip [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ openssl s_client -connect pop.gmail.com:pop3s CONNECTED(0003) [lots of info snipped] +OK Gpop ready for requests from 123.45.67.89

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 09:20:53 + Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/06, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure > > > authentication? Co

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Mick
On 17/06/06, Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BUT: As there are no GLSAs, I'd say that there are no currently known security problems. Thanks! Out of the the apps mentioned in this thread, which one would you recommend and why (what I'm really trying to find out is how do they compa

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-18 Thread Mick
On 17/06/06, Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > > But what if mail-server uses secure connection

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe any potential security problems would only concern you if you were running a telnet daemon not just using a client. All telnet apps mentioned in the thread have glsa's about them re: buffer overflows. They d

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 6:39, Jarry wrote: > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > > But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure > authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet > would not

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
Jarry wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? No. SSL doesn't have much to do with SSH. Alexander

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
Ow Mun Heng wrote: What makes you think that's it's better than telnet? esp when you see this during it's emerge [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/netcat-110-r8 USE="crypt -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE -ipv6 -static" 0 kB What are you talking about? You checked what the USE flags stand for? Alexander S

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons.

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0200 Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > > But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure > authentication? Could I use ssh-client

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Jarry
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. But what if mail-server uses secure connection (SSL) and secure authentication? Could I use ssh-client in such a case? Telnet would not help... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing l

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Mick
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe any potential security problems would only concern you if you were running a telnet daemon not just using a client. All telnet apps mentioned in the thread have glsa's about them re: buffer overflows. On the other hand I

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Mick
On 17/06/06, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What makes you think that's it's better than telnet? esp when you see this during it's emerge [ebuild R ] net-analyzer/netcat-110-r8 USE="crypt -GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE -ipv6 -static" 0 kB Oops!! You meant its not just a USE flag? :-))

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 5:35, Mick wrote: > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > > > > If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. > > Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so fa

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 20:05 +, Mick wrote: > On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. > > > > If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. > > Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged tel

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Mick
On 17/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You cannot use an ssh client in this manner. If you want a telnet client, emerge either netkit-telnetd or telnet-bsd. Thanks for all the replies. I had not emerged telnet so far because of potential security reasons. Is netcat be

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Sunday, 18 June 2006 3:11, Mick wrote: > I do not have telnet installed on my PC, so in troubleshooting a > connection to a mailserver I thought of using ssh. However, I do not > seem to be able to get a response from the server regarding user login > and password: > > =

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
Mick wrote: Am I doing this right, or is No, because: it that an ssh client cannot be used instead of telnet to connect to a mailserver? Exactly. I'd suggest to install telnet or nc/netcat. Alexander Skwar -- It was pity stayed his hand. "Pity I don't have any more bullets," thought Frito

[gentoo-user] Accessing mailserver with ssh

2006-06-17 Thread Mick
I do not have telnet installed on my PC, so in troubleshooting a connection to a mailserver I thought of using ssh. However, I do not seem to be able to get a response from the server regarding user login and password: == $ ssh -vv pop.virgin.net -