Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 17 November 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > dirvish is in portage. > > > > > > tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true > > > backup you need scripts to handle the extra

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 17 November 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: > William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dirvish is in portage. > > > > tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true > > backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things > > like versioning,

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-19 Thread Mark Somerville
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 07:45:04PM +, Mick wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I like rdiff-backup, which gives incremental backups over rsync. Mark pgpHGlsB6HS3

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dirvish is in portage. > > tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true > backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things > like versioning, archive management and the all important restore. star has e

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >> > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my >> > memory!) >> > >> > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off >> > lin

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 14:36:22 William Kenworthy wrote: > I wouldnt call it fair trade, rather "its working now and we'll make it > better it eventually." > > I agree, backups should be just that - protection from mistakes/lost > data.  However this is from someone who has the archives mounted

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 13:51:23 Mick wrote: > > Yes. Unix does some RealSmartThings(tm) when using files. The name is > > just a pointer to the actual file, represented by an inode. Once you have > > an inode open, it stays open until everything using it closes it. So you > > can add/delete/cop

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 12:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2008 12:31:16 William Kenworthy wrote: > > * app-backup/dirvish > > Latest version available: 1.2.1 > > Latest version installed: 1.2.1 > > Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] > > Homepage

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 November 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 16 November 2008 02:08:42 Mick wrote: > > On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: > > > Mick wrote: > > > > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > > > > memory!) > > > > > > > > What would you use to back

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 12:31:16 William Kenworthy wrote: > *  app-backup/dirvish >       Latest version available: 1.2.1 >       Latest version installed: 1.2.1 >       Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] >       Homepage:    http://www.dirvish.org/ >       Description: Dirvish is a fast,

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 15. November 2008 20:45:04 schrieb Mick: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I guess I would use rsnapshot to backup to another disk/machine if I had only a sma

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
It actually does a very fast, space efficient backup management. As for restore, each backup is effectively an uncompressed fully accessible mirror image so you can manually copy/tar/... etc back for the full system, or individual files. The developers basically say we have a working backup syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 11:04:41 William Kenworthy wrote: > dirvish is in portage. > > tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true > backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things > like versioning, archive management and the all important resto

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 02:08:42 Mick wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: > > Mick wrote: > > > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > > > memory!) > > > > > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off > > > line? > > > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 16 November 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: > dirvish is in portage. > > tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true > backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things > like versioning, archive management and the all important restore. ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
dirvish is in portage. tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things like versioning, archive management and the all important restore. Dirvish is excellent on all but restore. BillK On Sat, 2008-11-

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread jaeyoung lee
rsync is nice way On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:45 AM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? > -- > Regards, > Mick > -- Only freebsd openbsd g

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 15 November 2008 07:08:42 pm Mick wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: > > Mick wrote: > > > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > > > memory!) > > > > > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off > > > line? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: > >> Mick wrote: >> >>> Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my >>> memory!) >>> >>> What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off >>> line? >>> >> I keep mine simple, cp -auv p

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Mick
On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > > memory!) > > > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off > > line? > > I keep mine simple, cp -auv paths/you/want/to/backup back/up/to It

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? > I keep mine simple, cp -auv paths/you/want/to/backup back/up/to It has works so far. Thought about doing a cron job but t

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 15 November 2008 02:45:04 pm Mick wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? What's wrong with gentoo-wiki.info? As for backup yes tar is good, but how about

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 15 November 2008 21:45:04 Mick wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? rsync -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 15 November 2008, Mick wrote: > Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my > memory!) > > What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? tar

[gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-15 Thread Mick
Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.