Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do something with their storage, my VMs become Read-Only. Ouch... so, how do you fix it?

Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 25, 2013 5:54 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do something with their

Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-25 7:44 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 25, 2013 5:54 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-04-24 10:23 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: My Gentoo VMs in the cloud (using VMware's vCloud) uses PV-SCSI. It's stable... but kind of sensitive: Everytime the cloud provider do something

Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-24 Thread Tanstaafl
Anyone? On 2013-04-23 3:28 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco alfa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/21 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an 'LSI Logic Parallel' controller.

Re: PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-24 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 24, 2013 2:29 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco alfa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/21 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an 'LSI Logic Parallel' controller. Did

PVSCSI vs LSI Logic Parallel/SAS - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-22 8:56 AM, Andre Lucas Falco alfa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/21 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an 'LSI Logic Parallel' controller. Did you tested using pvscsi? It's improve performance with less cost to CPU

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-22 Thread Andre Lucas Falco
2013/4/21 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo VM gets an 'LSI Logic Parallel' controller. Did you tested using pvscsi? It's improve performance with less cost to CPU usage.

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:33, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 20/04/2013 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: On 20-Apr-13 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is virtualized not change

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Apr 20, 2013 10:01 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 21, 2013 4:51 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Apr 20, 2013 10:01 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks for the reply Alan... On 2013-04-20 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: If VMWare gives you a really shitty host driver, then something really shitty is going to be the best you can achieve. The host is a Dell R515 with the Perc H700. Windows VMs see get an 'LSI

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 5:47 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: Problem of virtualized filesystem is not that it is virtualized, but that it is located on datastore with more virtual systems, all of them competing for the same i/o. *That* is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/04/2013 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: Thanks for the reply Alan... On 2013-04-20 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: If VMWare gives you a really shitty host driver, then something really shitty is going to be the best you can achieve. The host is a Dell R515 with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, April 21, 2013 17:09, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-04-21 5:47 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: Problem of virtualized filesystem is not that it is virtualized, but that it is located on datastore with more virtual systems, all of them

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, April 21, 2013 12:06, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Apr 21, 2013 4:51 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: If you have the budget, you really should invest in a SAN Storage solution that can provide tiered storage, in which

[gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-20 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is virtualized not change anything)? If there are none, I'm curious what

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/04/2013 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is virtualized not change anything)?

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-20 Thread Jarry
On 20-Apr-13 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is virtualized not change anything)? Problem of virtualized filesystem is

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-20 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 20, 2013 10:01 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Thanks for the responses so far... Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is