Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
Shawn Haggett wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 15 minutes. Shawn googling load average brings me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing) which explains it somewhat. HTH Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
2009/2/18 Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com Shawn Haggett wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 15 minutes. Shawn googling load average brings me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29which explains it somewhat. HTH Matt install htop, order process by CPU % and check which one is eating your CPU.
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). Here's a thread that may or may not be related: http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/High_Idle_Load_Average
[gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Is updatedb or some similar indexer running? Being a new install it might still be building its index for the first time. I've noticed before that processes in io-wait seem to count towards the load average, even though they might not be actually using the CPU that much. Shawn
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Is updatedb or some similar indexer running? Being a new install it might still be building its index for the first time. I've noticed before that processes in io-wait seem to count towards the load average, even though they might not be actually using the CPU that much. Shawn Nope, nothing. Top shows all 0's under CPU. Nothing appears to be doing anything at all. As an example: top - 09:25:20 up 1:31, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.92 Tasks: 65 total, 1 running, 64 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4145288k total, 328960k used, 3816328k free,21112k buffers Swap: 8377856k total,0k used, 8377856k free, 256796k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5273 root 20 0 2428 1108 876 R0 0.0 0:03.71 top 1 root 20 0 1744 504 444 S0 0.0 0:00.28 init 2 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 5 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 6 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/1 7 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 8 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 9 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
Fearing I might have stripped out something I shouldn't have in my .config , loaded up a defconfig and selected my appropriate options. This has the same effect. I've also tryed the ~ kernel to no avail. This has got me stumped. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Is updatedb or some similar indexer running? Being a new install it might still be building its index for the first time. I've noticed before that processes in io-wait seem to count towards the load average, even though they might not be actually using the CPU that much. Shawn Nope, nothing. Top shows all 0's under CPU. Nothing appears to be doing anything at all. As an example: top - 09:25:20 up 1:31, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.92 Tasks: 65 total, 1 running, 64 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4145288k total, 328960k used, 3816328k free,21112k buffers Swap: 8377856k total,0k used, 8377856k free, 256796k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 5273 root 20 0 2428 1108 876 R0 0.0 0:03.71 top 1 root 20 0 1744 504 444 S0 0.0 0:00.28 init 2 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 5 root RT -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 6 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/1 7 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 8 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.01 events/1 9 root 15 -5 000 S0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:29 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: [snip] Anything suspicious under `ps aux` ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:29 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: [snip] Anything suspicious under `ps aux` ? Absolutely nothing ( out of ordinary ) :/ -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind. -- Matthew Good
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I wonder if NO_HZ has some effect on it? I think I remember reading something about it measuring timeslices... and all kinds of mathematics that I can't even begin to comprehend.
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 15 minutes. Shawn
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Mittwoch 18 Februar 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Shawn Haggett po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 15 minutes. I just ignore them because they are meaningless to me. The active CPU percentages seem to be based in Earthly reality. :) Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain what a 1 means versus a 2 or whatever. AFAIR: it is the number of process/task ready to run at the same time. 1 means there is one task that 'wants' to run/is running, 2 are two and so forth.
Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Shawn Haggett po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ). I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ). I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that doesn't appear to be an issue. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is load average, but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)... Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle but not running seti or anything intensive either. I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 15 minutes. I just ignore them because they are meaningless to me. The active CPU percentages seem to be based in Earthly reality. :) Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain what a 1 means versus a 2 or whatever. Paul
