Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Gentoo for about 4 or 5 years now. I to think Gentoo has well, lost its way. It seems like a bunch of teenagers is running it sometimes. They decide something then go back a few steps when they don't like the results. ACK. I also have

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-14 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 13. Januar 2008, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-14 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 17.31.20 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-14 Thread Galevsky
What looks strange -from an external point of view- is that there is lots of high-skilled people here... with huge Gentoo experience. How did these people not manage to build some plan ? With all the engineers, team leaders, project chiefs, and so on... involved in Gentoo project ? It looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 January 2008, Richard Marzan wrote:  Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project. For reference, Daniel *did* work for Microsoft but left about 18 months or so ago. Per his web site he is now involved in a web-based financial trading concern. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 January 2008, fire-eyes wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Ciaran Mcreesh - I am very specifically looking at you here. Very strongly agree with Mr McCreesh (spelling?). While I respect his technical abilities and contributions, I believe his horrible attitude, clear trolling and

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Alan E. Davis
Perhaps a user's perspective. A clueless user. Gentoo is the ass-kickinest distro I have tried. The docs are the best in the Linux communities. Where does that leave me and where does that leave Gentoo now? I am impelled to write after seeing numerous posts about the apparent demise of GWN,

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 13 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: A poorly developed sense of how to deal with other people coupled with never having realised that people are not machines, do not react like machines and need to be handled differently. You maintain machines by focusing on what is wrong with them and

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 13 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 13 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: A poorly developed sense of how to deal with other people coupled with never having realised that people are not machines, do not react like machines and need to be handled differently. You maintain

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Samstag, 12. Januar 2008, Richard Marzan wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 18:22 +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project.

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Naga Toro
On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who needs the grief of

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who needs the

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Naga Toro
On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sonntag, 13. Januar 2008, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read the thread of these

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Naga Toro
On Sunday 13 January 2008 17.31.20 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.33.28 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Naga Toro wrote: On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a ex-dev

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Dale
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: that is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this list. So users should never be part of discussions? Their needs? Their opinions? Also, drobbins continued his attacks even after explained SEVERAL times that the stuff ciaranm was doing was a) wanted and

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 13 January 2008, Naga Toro wrote: About Ciarans people skills I agree they are none to slim, but the points he makes are valid and since this is an open project he has every right to voice his opinion. But he has no right to waltz around with *destructive*intent* while doing it. We

[gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread alain . didierjean
Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership. What about it ? Read http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html -- ~adj~ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership. What about it ? Read http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html I've kept very quiet about Gentoo politics for a long time, but Daniel's blog has promoted me to finally open my

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Jil Larner
Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using gentoo, I never get any political announcement, maybe because I didn't look at the right place, or maybe there was no. I mean that except the Gentoo's Philosophy

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Mick
On Saturday 12 January 2008, Jil Larner wrote: Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using gentoo, I never get any political announcement, maybe because I didn't look at the right place, or maybe there

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008, Jil Larner wrote: Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using gentoo, I never get any political announcement, maybe because I didn't look at the right

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Richard Marzan
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 07:34 -0600, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008, Jil Larner wrote: Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using gentoo, I never get any political

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:34:47 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008, Jil Larner wrote: Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using gentoo, I never get any

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project. He doesn't work for Microsoft any longer. Check Wikipedia or Google for relevant news. Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Hal Martin
He states on his blog that he currently works for E*Trade, a company specializing in electronic ticker tape services for individuals and corporations. -Hal Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft,

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Richard Marzan
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 18:22 +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project. He doesn't work for Microsoft any longer. Check Wikipedia or Google for

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread fire-eyes
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership. What about it ? Read http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html I've kept very quiet about Gentoo politics for a long time, but Daniel's blog has promoted

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 12. Januar 2008, Richard Marzan wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 07:34 -0600, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 12 January 2008, Jil Larner wrote: Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 12. Januar 2008, Richard Marzan wrote: On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 18:22 +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project. He doesn't work for