Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
Excerpt from Stroller: My experience has been the opposite, that even the cheapest USB network adaptors have worked. Maybe I've just been lucky and this is not the norm, but from what I've seen USB network adapters don't work with Linux is the sort of thing that might have been true 10 years ago. Are you talking about an adapter that plugs into a USB port at one end and has an Ethernet port at the other end? Or are you talking about a cable or DSL router with a USB connection? I have a cable modem and router, the router can connect by either Ethernet or USB; I always used the Ethernet and never used the USB. But I had a DSL modem/router before the switch to cable, had both USB and Ethernet connectors. I failed to get the USB network connection to work, though the Ethernet worked OK. Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 5 July 2013, at 07:48, Thomas Mueller wrote: My experience has been the opposite, that even the cheapest USB network adaptors have worked. ... Maybe I've just been lucky and this is not the norm, but from what I've seen USB network adapters don't work with Linux is the sort of thing that might have been true 10 years ago. Are you talking about an adapter that plugs into a USB port at one end and has an Ethernet port at the other end? Like this: http://www.cnesmart.com/plus/view.php?aid=139 I can't say that's the exact same model as one of the ones I've used, with the same chipset and all, but it looks just the same. I see that page says the NIC is supported by Windows 2000, so I would be surprised if no Linux driver has been developed by now. Searching my computer it appears, although I can't say for sure, that I paid less than $10 for this adaptor. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 3 July 2013, at 17:28, Zind wrote: ... Use an external network adapter, uh... I never thought of that. AFAIK, many USB netwok adapters won't work correctly with Linux. My experience has been the opposite, that even the cheapest USB network adaptors have worked. Maybe I've just been lucky and this is not the norm, but from what I've seen USB network adapters don't work with Linux is the sort of thing that might have been true 10 years ago. Previously, I bought a Mercury MW300U USB network adapter, unfortunately, it doesn't work properly with Ubuntu 12.04. Then, that USB network adapter was left in the corner of my room. :-( Again, based on my experience, I might be wrong, the only thing I can guess is that this USB NIC featured a very recent chipset at the time Ubuntu 12.04 was packaged or released. 2. For each emerge command in the installation guide, run `emerge -fp package-name` first, and redirect the output into a textfile. IIRC, the LiveUSB is a read-only file system. So, I'm afraid that I could not redirect the required package information to a text file. Well, the LiveUSB is a read-only file system, but you're installing Gentoo onto some kind of writable filesystem - an SSD or hard-disk. When I say for each emerge command in the installation guide, these are the commands which compile packages and save the files on the hard-disk. So as a temporary measure you could save the textfile in the root directory of the new install; the computer probably supports USB flash-drives, which you can write to from the LiveCD - use another tmux window or virtual terminal if necessary. Gentoo installation is really flexible - the whole process is basically about writing a bunch of files to the hard-drive. With an appreciation of that, it doesn't matter how you get those files on the hard-disk - you can use any alternate way you can think of. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
Thanks to all of you, guys. It's really kind of you. I should have replied the e-mail in time, but I was busy with work recent days, sorry. I will try your suggestions, and continue the installation very soon. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:47:04 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You can try to use SystemRescueCD[1] (based on Gentoo) instead of the minimum install CD. The instructions are identical, but sometimes the SystemRescueCD is more up-to-date. The alx ethernet driver is in kernel 3.10.0. System Rescue CD is updated frequently so I would expect a release that supports this device to be out before the end of the week. -- Neil Bothwick Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by moving to where you can't find them.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote: If I'm understanding correctly, that it's the LiveCD that can't connect to the network (rather than the installed system) Yes. Two alternatives that spring to mind are: 1. Many USB network adaptors are supported by LiveCDs, try one of those. Some wired USB ethernet are available new for as little as $10 or so, or you could probably find a secondhand wifi 802.11b or g adaptor that cheap. Or borrow one, or something. Use an external network adapter, uh... I never thought of that. AFAIK, many USB netwok adapters won't work correctly with Linux. Previously, I bought a Mercury MW300U USB network adapter, unfortunately, it doesn't work properly with Ubuntu 12.04. Then, that USB network adapter was left in the corner of my room. :-( So I didn't expect the USB netwok adapter to work with the LiveCD. 2. For each emerge command in the installation guide, run `emerge -fp package-name` first, and redirect the output into a textfile. Then copy this textfile onto a USB key, take it to another machine with working internet access, use `wget -i file` to download the packages and then transfer them back to the machine on which you're installing Gentoo. IIRC, the LiveUSB is a read-only file system. So, I'm afraid that I could not redirect the required package information to a text file.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Gregory Shearman zek...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm that these firmware files are in the linux-firmware package. What confuses me is that iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode and iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode do EXIST in the LiveUSB. But they just couldn't be loaded properly. :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: 2013/6/29 Zind wzmind...@gmail.com Can you search with dmesg and find if it's nead a firmware. Yes. At the bottom of the dmesg message, I can see these lines: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode' failed. request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode' failed. no suitable firmware found! You can try to fix this with emerging linux-firmware. I'm not sure if this firmware is in there, or what else to configure to fit it exactly, but in default the firmwares ware installed. I can confirm that these firmware files are in the linux-firmware package. -- Regards, Gregory Shearman.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 10:47:04 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You can try to use SystemRescueCD[1] (based on Gentoo) instead of the minimum install CD. The instructions are identical, but sometimes the SystemRescueCD is more up-to-date. The alx ethernet driver is in kernel 3.10.0. System Rescue CD is updated frequently so I would expect a release that supports this device to be out before the end of the week. -- Neil Bothwick Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by moving to where you can't find them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
hi all, I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo installation process. I got a relatively new laptop: Lenovo IdeaPad Y400. The Gentoo iso I choose is: admincd-amd64-20130620.iso, from: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20130620/hardened/ After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network. Using the `ifconfig -a` command, I can only see the loopback interface: lo. Using the `lspci` command, I can see the two network adapters: (1) the Ethernet adapter Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (2) the wireless adapter Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN (The two network adapters both work well under Windows 8.) After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself, but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-( For the wireless network adapter, I can find iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode(coresponding to Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN adapter) under /lib/firmware, I tried the `modprobe iwlwifi` command, still doesn't work. Weird. Uh... I don't know what to do next to continue the installation. Any suggestion or advice is appreciated. PS. several links which I found useful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089512 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 06/29/13 12:16, Zind wrote: hi all, I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo installation process. I got a relatively new laptop: Lenovo IdeaPad Y400. The Gentoo iso I choose is: admincd-amd64-20130620.iso, from: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20130620/hardened/ After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network. Using the `ifconfig -a` command, I can only see the loopback interface: lo. Using the `lspci` command, I can see the two network adapters: (1) the Ethernet adapter Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (2) the wireless adapter Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN (The two network adapters both work well under Windows 8.) After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself, but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-( For the wireless network adapter, I can find iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode(coresponding to Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN adapter) under /lib/firmware, I tried the `modprobe iwlwifi` command, still doesn't work. Weird. Uh... I don't know what to do next to continue the installation. Any suggestion or advice is appreciated. PS. several links which I found useful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089512 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi Maybe this can be helpful in some way? http://blechtog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet-using-compat-wireless-module-alx/ -- Stop talking and start compiling. Linux user #557897
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
Can you search with dmesg and find if it's nead a firmware. Davide Il giorno 29/giu/2013 10:17, Zind wzmind...@gmail.com ha scritto: hi all, I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo installation process. I got a relatively new laptop: Lenovo IdeaPad Y400. The Gentoo iso I choose is: admincd-amd64-20130620.iso, from: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20130620/hardened/ After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network. Using the `ifconfig -a` command, I can only see the loopback interface: lo. Using the `lspci` command, I can see the two network adapters: (1) the Ethernet adapter Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (2) the wireless adapter Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN (The two network adapters both work well under Windows 8.) After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself, but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-( For the wireless network adapter, I can find iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode(coresponding to Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN adapter) under /lib/firmware, I tried the `modprobe iwlwifi` command, still doesn't work. Weird. Uh... I don't know what to do next to continue the installation. Any suggestion or advice is appreciated. PS. several links which I found useful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089512 http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Davide De Prisco deprisco.dav...@gmail.com wrote: Can you search with dmesg and find if it's nead a firmware. Yes. At the bottom of the dmesg message, I can see these lines: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode' failed. request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode' failed. no suitable firmware found!
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
2013/6/29 Zind wzmind...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Davide De Prisco deprisco.dav...@gmail.com wrote: Can you search with dmesg and find if it's nead a firmware. Yes. At the bottom of the dmesg message, I can see these lines: request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode' failed. request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-2030-5.ucode' failed. no suitable firmware found! You can try to fix this with emerging linux-firmware. I'm not sure if this firmware is in there, or what else to configure to fit it exactly, but in default the firmwares ware installed. Ps: Welcome to Gentoo -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Randolph Maaßen
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, the the.gu...@mail.ru wrote: Maybe this can be helpful in some way? http://blechtog.wordpress.com/**2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-** atheros-ar8161-gigabit-**ethernet-using-compat-**wireless-module-alx/http://blechtog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet-using-compat-wireless-module-alx/ Thanks. It's useful. But I didn't have Gentoo installed yet. :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 06/29/13 13:30, Zind wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, the the.gu...@mail.ru mailto:the.gu...@mail.ru wrote: Maybe this can be helpful in some way? http://blechtog.wordpress.com/__2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-__atheros-ar8161-gigabit-__ethernet-using-compat-__wireless-module-alx/ http://blechtog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet-using-compat-wireless-module-alx/ Thanks. It's useful. But I didn't have Gentoo installed yet. :-( sorry I should have read the original post more thoroughly -- Stop talking and start compiling. Linux user #557897
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
2013/6/29 Zind wzmind...@gmail.com: hi all, I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo installation process. I got a relatively new laptop: Lenovo IdeaPad Y400. The Gentoo iso I choose is: admincd-amd64-20130620.iso, from: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20130620/hardened/ I once failed to install Hardened Gentoo to a server using the admincd, so I'm not sure if you can proceed much further even if the network is working. Since after chroot the environment of LiveCD is not important any more (except the running kernel, of course), you could simply use the installation CD and a hardened stage3. If you are not trying to use SELinux, this should be enough. After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network. Using the `ifconfig -a` command, I can only see the loopback interface: lo. Using the `lspci` command, I can see the two network adapters: (1) the Ethernet adapter Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (2) the wireless adapter Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN (The two network adapters both work well under Windows 8.) After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself, but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-( The toolchain is present on the installation CD so it must be the admincd... For the wireless network adapter, I can find iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode(coresponding to Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN adapter) under /lib/firmware, I tried the `modprobe iwlwifi` command, still doesn't work. Weird. Uh... I don't know what to do next to continue the installation. Any suggestion or advice is appreciated. You can get the firmware files from the git tree of linux-firmware project (browsable online). Then you can transfer them into the LiveCD environment's /lib/firmware by means of a USB stick, for example, after which you simply rmmod iwlagn modprobe iwlagn. Also, before you finally reboot to finish the installation make sure you emerge linux-firmware, so that the required firmware files are installed into the target system. Hope this information helps~
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 06/29/2013 04:16 AM, Zind wrote: hi all, I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo installation process. ... After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself, but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-( You can try to use SystemRescueCD[1] (based on Gentoo) instead of the minimum install CD. The instructions are identical, but sometimes the SystemRescueCD is more up-to-date. [1] http://www.sysresccd.org/
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported
On 29 June 2013, at 09:16, Zind wrote: After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network. ... After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers. For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko. If I'm understanding correctly, that it's the LiveCD that can't connect to the network (rather than the installed system) then there are various ways to work around this. Two alternatives that spring to mind are: 1. Many USB network adaptors are supported by LiveCDs, try one of those. Some wired USB ethernet are available new for as little as $10 or so, or you could probably find a secondhand wifi 802.11b or g adaptor that cheap. Or borrow one, or something. 2. For each emerge command in the installation guide, run `emerge -fp package-name` first, and redirect the output into a textfile. Then copy this textfile onto a USB key, take it to another machine with working internet access, use `wget -i file` to download the packages and then transfer them back to the machine on which you're installing Gentoo. Stroller.
