Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-21 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, Sep 20 2012, Paul Hartman wrote: > In newer version of portage you can add "fixlafiles" to FEATURES and > there is no need to manually run the lxfilefixer program. Thanks. I hadn't seen this before. It is in the make.conf man page for my system which is ~amd64. So I assume "newer versi

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-20 Thread Dale
Daniel Wagener wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:55:37 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> lafilefixer --justfixit". >> The last one, "lafilefixer --justfixit" is especially valuable as it >> gets right of a huge gigantic steaming pile of crap that a) should >> never have been there at all in the fir

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Wagener
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:55:37 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > lafilefixer --justfixit". > The last one, "lafilefixer --justfixit" is especially valuable as it > gets right of a huge gigantic steaming pile of crap that a) should > never have been there at all in the first place and b) if it's causi

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-15 Thread Graham Murray
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > and for a simple reason: ml have always been. So 'old timers' and 'people > knowing their crap' hang around those. Then came AOL, eternal September and > forums for this new crop of lol users. And since like minded people love to > congrate... And prior to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 >> >> Michael Mol

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 > >> Michael Mol wrote: > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKin

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > >> There have been good forums in the past. Even now. But forums have a massive >> problem, even the great ones: if they go down everything is lost. >> > +1 > > NVidia had some really good forums. They got hacke

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 >> Michael Mol wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon >> > wrote: >> > >> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 >> > > A

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > > > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:25 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > > mailto:n...@digim

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > There have been good forums in the past. Even now. But forums have a massive > problem, even the great ones: if they go down everything is lost. > +1 NVidia had some really good forums. They got hacked, passwords & Account IDs sto

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2012, 12:03:04 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:43:09 -0400 > > Philip Webb wrote: > > When I wanted to install Linux on my new netbook 2008, > > I quickly found that the simplest way to get everything to work > > was to install Gentoo, using my notes fro

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 12.09.2012 15:47, schrieb Michael Mol: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > >>> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once r

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 12.09.2012 15:47, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this >>> command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > >> Alex Schuster wrote: > >> > >> > Michael Mol writes: > >> > > >> > > O

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 >> Alex Schuster wrote: >> >> > Michael Mol writes: >> > >> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 > Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Michael Mol writes: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > > wrote: > > > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: > > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P > > > > "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:33:14 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and > > see if it repairs your password"

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:00:34 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > And "emerge -e world && perl-cleaner --all && python-updater && > lafilefixer --justfixit". You forgot "sync again". -- Neil Bothwick .<-Stealth Tagline signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Michael Mol writes: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick > > wrote: >> > > Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P >> >> "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" >> > > Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>> wrote: Instead we get, try USE="-*" :P "Try MAKEOPTS='-j1'" Which in fact often helps... especially for me, I am using MAKEOPTS="-j --load=4", and I often experience build problems that are

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
120912 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this >> command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see >> if it repairs your password" just does not ever get proposed here

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see > > if it repairs your password" jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:03:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The popular forum answer of "my granny's dog's owner once ran this > command and it seemed to fix her green screen so give it a try and see > if it repairs your password" just does not ever get proposed here :-) Instead we get, try USE="-

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:43:09 -0400 Philip Webb wrote: > When I wanted to install Linux on my new netbook 2008, > I quickly found that the simplest way to get everything to work > was to install Gentoo, using my notes from previous desktop installs. > In Gentoo, problems are almost always just 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: Like Paul and many others I've never looked back. I'm no power user, and contrary to a lot of the press out there I don't think you need to be to use this distro. That's actually quite perceptive and correct. You d

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > Like Paul and many others I've never looked back. I'm no power user, > and contrary to a lot of the press out there I don't think you need to > be to use this distro. That's actually quite perceptive and correct. You don't need to be a gen

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120910 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz >> Gentoo is the best distribution I have used ... >> I love watching & questioning what is going to be installed. >> Supposedly Gentoo lacks being able to "just work" without thinking, >> but in my experience this simpl

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Cinder
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 6:40 AM, "Paul Hartman" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz > wrote: > > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > > questioning) what is going to be in

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > For the release to use new packages with their new magic features, > every other package using those packages must also be recompiled I see now. > The only sane way to deal with this is to peg > the packages at version levels and stick with

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being abl

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being abl

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 09/10/2012 05:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:46:14 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Dale
Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: > ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and > questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. > Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system "just work" > w

[gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge. Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system "just work" without thinking about anything. B