Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 4:02 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:54:26 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) That's implicit in the wedding vows :( That can be solved by making sure she has a decent paying job

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:30:33 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) That's implicit in the wedding vows :( -- Neil Bothwick A. Top posters. Q. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 12:06 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:30:33 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) That's implicit in the wedding vows :( That can be solved by making sure she has a decent paying job herself

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, June 19, 2012 1:37 am, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB drives? (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my aggregate volumes.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:54:26 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Lucky you didn't challenge her to max out your Platinum credit card ;-) That's implicit in the wedding vows :( That can be solved by making sure she has a decent paying job herself :) That worked for you??? :-O -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Stroller
On 18 June 2012, at 15:39, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: ... It does bring to mind a question...when I went to put SATAII drives in a SATA box, I needed to flip a jumper on the drive so that it would operate at 1.5Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s. Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 18 June 2012, at 15:39, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: ... It does bring to mind a question...when I went to put SATAII drives in a SATA box, I needed to flip a jumper on the drive so that it would operate at

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence.  USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on my system. Is the drive powered by USB, or an external power supply? USB3

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread felix
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:49:48AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: A thought...if the system is old enough that it only has PCI and PCI-X (as opposed to PCIe), then it's definitely not going to have USB3. Perhaps putting attaching the USB3 enclosure to the system by way of a USB2 hub might work?

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread felix
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:43:41AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I bought a USB 3.0 disk enclosure and the system refused to even acknowledge its presence. ?USB 3.0 may be advertised as backwards compatible, but not on my system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:49:48AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: A thought...if the system is old enough that it only has PCI and PCI-X (as opposed to PCIe), then it's definitely not going to have USB3. Perhaps putting attaching the USB3

[gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years ago, but is showing its age. I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. I bought a USB 3.0 disk

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 23:16 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I have an ancient system which was quite the bee's knees in its day 8 years ago, but is showing its age. I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. Have you updated the BIOS to the latest available version? -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 02:35:03PM +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: 32bit or 64 bit system? Dual opteron, ~amd64. Kernel options for large file systems? Yes. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon /

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. Have

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:11:31AM -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:06:54AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:16:24 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing. Do you mean to say that these are 4TB internal drives (3.5)? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:12:35PM +0200, pk wrote: On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself, or from using 4K blocks, I do not know. This is a bit confusing. Do you

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-06-18 08:16, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I plugged two 4TB SATA drives in and the BIOS hangs trying to display the disk size. Whether it is the size itself,

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:24, Michael Mol wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX000/dp/B005WX3NEU/ Seagate Barracuda 7200 4 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 128MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive Hm... then Seagate needs to update their product page:

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 04:48:09PM +0200, pk wrote: That would be a possibility of course... but if that fails he also have this option: http://www.areca.com.tw/products/pcix.htm (I'm sure there are similar options from other manufacturers)... My google-fu is deteriorating. I didn't see this

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:48 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-06-18 16:24, Michael Mol wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST4000DX000/dp/B005WX3NEU/ Seagate Barracuda 7200 4 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 128MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive Hm...

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:57, Michael Mol wrote: I only posted the link to the Seagate drive, since that was the first one that popped up in my search. Point is, the 4TB drives do exist. Hm, now that you mentioned it I think I've read something about this a while ago (long enough time has gone for me

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread pk
On 2012-06-18 16:34, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Hitachi, I think. Fry's had two choies differing in size of cache (64M vs 32M) and some 3TB drives too. I could get the model numbers when I get back to that system (not near it for a few days). Ah, the deskstar 7K4000 is readily available on

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread felix
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:45:28PM +0200, pk wrote: Will you be using these (huge!) drives as boot drives or merely as storage? If the latter and you're really desperate (haven't tried this myself) there should be an option to turn off the automatic discovery of drives in the BIOS and

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:24:16 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: Found a Tyan page for my motherboard. Didn't see any obvious fixes for SATA size. I also don't remember my BIOS version, I'll have to check that. lshw will show you the BIOs version without rebooting. -- Neil Bothwick The

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB drives? (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my aggregate volumes.) Completely OT but what the heck: :-) I built a 12TB FreeNAS

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jun 19, 2012 6:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB drives? (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting around ancient SATA disk size limitations

2012-06-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:24:58 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Felix, did you follow any analogous steps for the 4TB drives? (Cripes, that's a lot of data. One drive, bigger than any of my aggregate volumes.) Completely OT but what the heck: :-) I