Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
  The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
  
 USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
 -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
 (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
 -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox 
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for 
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native 
HTML5 YouTube Playback

Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5 
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has 
been delayed.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
  The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
  
 USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
 -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
 (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
 -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox 
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for 
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native 
HTML5 YouTube Playback

Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5 
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has 
been delayed.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
  The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
  
 USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
 -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
 (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
 -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox 
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for 
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native 
HTML5 YouTube Playback

Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5 
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has 
been delayed.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Matti Nykyri
 On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:24, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
 The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
 
   USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
   -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
   (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
   -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
 look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
 WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
 codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been 
 rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
 https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.
 
 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
 versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
 firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube 
 for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
 HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With 
 Native HTML5 YouTube Playback

A little bit OT, but does anyone know how to satisfy Firefox's need for audio 
device. If I have no asound.conf Firefox will use hw0,0 for audio output. If I 
set asound to:

pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card 0
 device 0
}

ctl.!default {
 type control
 card 0
 device 0
}

Sorry. Wrote this from memory so there might be a typo somewhere. With these 
settings Firefox don't playback anything... Other applications and flash plugin 
works perfectly.

How could I get firefox to use hw0,3 or hw1,3 for HTML5 audio playback?

-- 
-Matti


Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
  The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
  
 USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
 -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
 (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
 -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

I believe that option is just a choice between using the libvpx bundled with 
firefox (as recommended by mozilla) and using the system wide libvpx.

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for 
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native 
HTML5 YouTube Playback

I'm using firefox 37 and it has always used the flash player. It has fallen 
back 
on HTML5 a few times because the flash plugin crashed. It uses flash even if I 
open a private session (no cookies) or even if I move the ~/.mozilla 
directory, It also says on that page that the option to switch between HTML5 
and Flash was removed on firefox 33 and I still have it so they must have 
changed their mind.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, April 27, 2015 1:24:59 AM Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 
  The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
  
 USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
 -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
 (-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
 -system-sqlite {-test} -wifi
 
 `euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the 
WebM VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ 
codec, but Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.
 
 I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

I believe that's just an option between using the libvpx bundled with firefox 
as recommended by mozilla, or using the system libvpx.

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer 
versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 
firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for 
all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the 
HTML5 video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native 
HTML5 YouTube Playback

Firefox 37 still uses the flash player for youtube. It will fallback on HTML5 
if the flash player crashes. There's an update on that page that the change has 
been delayed.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 01:24:59AM +0100, Stroller wrote

 Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
 
 I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
 versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube
 html5 firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5
 video on YouTube for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer,
 FYI: Firefox 35 uses the HTML5 video player in Youtube by default
 and Firefox 37 Released With Native HTML5 YouTube Playback

  I've picked up a few tricks that seem to work some of the time.  This
is with Seamonkey, but should work with standard Firefox...

1) Set up a separate profile for Youtube, and disable the Flash plugin
only for that profile (never thought I'd say that).

2) If a video won't play, remove hd=1 at the end of the URL.  That
sometimes helps.

3) Warning... bleeding edge  crash-prone.  In about:config toggle
media.mediasource.enabled to true.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-28 Thread covici
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 01:24:59AM +0100, Stroller wrote
 
  Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.
  
  I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer
  versions are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube
  html5 firefox I find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5
  video on YouTube for all Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer,
  FYI: Firefox 35 uses the HTML5 video player in Youtube by default
  and Firefox 37 Released With Native HTML5 YouTube Playback
 
   I've picked up a few tricks that seem to work some of the time.  This
 is with Seamonkey, but should work with standard Firefox...
 
 1) Set up a separate profile for Youtube, and disable the Flash plugin
 only for that profile (never thought I'd say that).
 
 2) If a video won't play, remove hd=1 at the end of the URL.  That
 sometimes helps.
 
 3) Warning... bleeding edge  crash-prone.  In about:config toggle
 media.mediasource.enabled to true.

I think this is the default.  Also, I have had several occasions where
the profile somehow got corrupted and the video would not play, I had to
create a new profile and then it worked.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



[gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo.

When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips
embedded in it.  When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and
more frequently, the error message (from You Tube):

Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats
available.  Click here to visit our frequently asked questions
about HTML5 video.

Fair enough.  The connection between the first and second sentences is a
bit vague, but I surmise from them that the video is available in HTML5
format (whatever that is) and the link will instruct me on setting it up.

Not a bit of it!  That link, https://www.youtube.com/html5, says this:

Many YouTube videos will play using HTML5 in supported browsers. You
can request that the HTML5 player be used if your browser doesn't use
it by default.

If you encounter any problems, right-click on the player and choose
report playback issue, or let us know on the user support forums.
Your feedback will help us continue to improve the player.

, without telling me _how_ I can request that the HTML5 player be used.
Exactly what the player is that I should right-click on remains
obscure.

I feel that I'm missing some crucial piece of information which is
obvious to everybody else.  I'd like to view these video clips.  Any help
people can offer me would be gratefully received.

The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:

USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi

Thanks!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Stroller

On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:

 The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0:
 
USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx
-system-sqlite {-test} -wifi

`euses system-libvpx` says use the system-wide media-libs/libvpx and if we 
look up media-libs/libvpx then its description explains that its about the WebM 
VP8 codec. It would be better if it explained that this is a _video_ codec, but 
Gentoo's USE flag and package descriptions have always been rubbish.

I would perhaps try rebuilding with USE=system-libvpx and checking the 
https://www.youtube.com/html5 page again.

Personally, I would probably also try a later version of Firefox.

I appreciate that 31.x is the latest stable version, but I doubt newer versions 
are actually unstable in any way, and if I google youtube html5 firefox I 
find that Google will enforce the use of HTML5 video on YouTube for all 
Firefox users who use Firefox 33 or newer, FYI: Firefox 35 uses the HTML5 
video player in Youtube by default and Firefox 37 Released With Native HTML5 
YouTube Playback

Stroller.