Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-18 Thread anhnmncb
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:30:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's one way of doing it, but I believe it will be slower in the long run. You have to load the page, read it, and decide is anything of interest is new. If so, you then have to emerge --sync anyway, so why not just do it

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:14:48 +, anhnmncb wrote: I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable branch's update info, packages.gentoo.org has an RSS feed. -- Neil Bothwick JPEG (JPG) Joint Photographic Experts Group. The original name of the committee that designed

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Tuttle wrote: Seriously, I spend half my days on support debunking just this kind of twaddle. ...and scaring off users who passed it (probably just because they misunderstood or misinterpreted something) by replying like this. Please, be nice. Oh, I have

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote: Hello, I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable branch's update info, nothing more else, what I have heard of I mensioned in the first thread really wasn't the point I wanted to make, so... can all of you ignore of it...

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread anhnmncb
Yes, maybe http://packages.gentoo.org/archs/x86/stable/ is what I want. Anyway, I still think the way gentoo uses for its package's database update is different with other distro, and seems a bit slower than others, err, I only used archlinux before. And..., what I have said above will cause a

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote: Yes, maybe http://packages.gentoo.org/archs/x86/stable/ is what I want. Anyway, I still think the way gentoo uses for its package's database update is different with other distro, and seems a bit slower than others, err, I only used archlinux before.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 13 April 2007, Ryan Sims wrote: On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk. Uninformed idiots who tell you total garbage like that ought to be shot. No, they ought to be hung, drawn,

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On April 16 at 06:46 EDT, Alan McKinnon hastily scribbled: On Friday 13 April 2007, Ryan Sims wrote: On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk. Uninformed idiots who tell you total garbage

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread Ryan Sims
On 4/16/07, Thomas Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On April 16 at 06:46 EDT, Alan McKinnon hastily scribbled: On Friday 13 April 2007, Ryan Sims wrote: On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 16 April 2007, Thomas Tuttle wrote: On April 16 at 06:46 EDT, Alan McKinnon hastily scribbled: On Friday 13 April 2007, Ryan Sims wrote: On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Thomas Tuttle, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk. Uninformed idiots who tell you total garbage like that ought to be shot. No, they ought to be hung, drawn, quartered and their corpses hung out on a stick to be picked clean by crows.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-16 Thread anhnmncb
Hello, I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable branch's update info, nothing more else, what I have heard of I mensioned in the first thread really wasn't the point I wanted to make, so... can all of you ignore of it... Any way, thank you all;p -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread anhnmncb
hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk, so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a month), but how can I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade my system if a new kernel or glibc is realised? Is there a simple and quick method?

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk, so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a month), but how can I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade my system if a new kernel or glibc is realised? Is there a simple and quick method? You could

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Fabio
Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged --sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or error. However, I do not advise people to do it so frequently just because they will not find updated versions of their favorite packages as often as I thought

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Ryan Sims
On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk. This sounds like juju. Did your source provide numbers in support of this conclusion, or is it just concern about hard drive thrashing? If there is a

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 4/13/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk. This sounds like juju. Did your source provide numbers in support of this conclusion, or is it just concern

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 13 April 2007 17:46:42 Fabio wrote: Now I advise people to keep their systems synced at least once a month, not because their machine necessarily needs to, but because after much time with no emerging --sync, you'd see your computers spending one or two days downloading and compiling

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:46:42 -0500, Fabio wrote: Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged --sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or error. I have a system here that rsyncs with three other computers every hour and the disk is still good

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:45:04 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:46:42 -0500, Fabio wrote: Well, when I started with Gentoo Linux almost a year ago, I emerged --sync more than twice per week. I never experimented any damage or error. I have a

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:55 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk, so I don't have a try --sync quite often(maybe once a month), but how can I know whether I really need a sync and upgrade my system if a new kernel or

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-13 Thread Neil Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard of that using emerge --sync frequently may hert my hard-disk My network server has been doing a daily emerge --sync for 4 years now. Hasn't died yet. FWIW, simply running Windows puts far more strain on the HD than doing a daily sync in Gentoo ever will.