Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
2006/7/18, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests mefor the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer hasabout 1 systems at about 500 locations.Remote systems are categorized as one of 3 types/configurations.Automated management of them is essential,including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and greatest asstability is very important.Upgrades need to just work, and not require manual intervention.Currently, they're all on Windows in one form oranother (ugh!).The systems in question have very limited capabilities, andthe people on site have very limited permissions.Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect someone to realize the value of Linux for this.I'd like to have a solutionin my mind when the time comes.I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this.There is nodoubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packagesare availble, etc.Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates.I'm not*sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. I think you should take a look at:http://www.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.htmlhttp://www.cfengine.org/ Best regardsJose
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: 2006/7/18, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests me for the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer has about 1 systems at about 500 locations. Remote systems are categorized as one of 3 types/configurations. Automated management of them is essential, including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and greatest as stability is very important. Upgrades need to just work, and not require manual intervention. Currently, they're all on Windows in one form or another (ugh!). The systems in question have very limited capabilities, and the people on site have very limited permissions. Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect someone to realize the value of Linux for this. I'd like to have a solution in my mind when the time comes. I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this. There is no doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates. I'm not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. I think you should take a look at: http://www.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/index.html http://www.cfengine.org/ http://www.cfengine.org/ Best regards Jose http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Hi all, I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not what I need it just tell how to build linux from scratch. I tried to search on google but I got nothing. Please give me any information and what should I have to learn to build my own linux distribution? sorry for my english. Thanks, Makara __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Makara, I don't know why... since when you use Gentoo, you're essentially making your own distribution but leveraging off the infrastructure of Gentoo, but here is one link that may be of use: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7233 And this other link (OOo presentation) may give you some great ideas / techniques: http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/knoppixtalk.sxi HTH, ...Ric On 18/07/06, Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not what I need it just tell how to build linux from scratch. I tried to search on google but I got nothing. Please give me any information and what should I have to learn to build my own linux distribution? sorry for my english. Thanks, Makara __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == == http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml == -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Could anyone tell me how to create my own linux distribution?... What exactly do you expect from your own linux distribution? Some special functionality you are missing? Some speciall installer, interface, packages? Frankly, I have never done something like that, but I think making your own linux-distro is a little more then just packburn your favourite packages. To code a good installer is not trivial task. Maybe that's why almost every distro uses its own installer... Anyway I think you should first summarise your requirements. Maybe it would be easier to start with some already done distro, and just modify it according to your needs (that's the way some linux-distribution originated from debian, or ubuntu). Well, good luck with this task! You will sure need it... :-) Jarry -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! Feel free mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 08:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Could anyone tell me how to create my own linux distribution?... What exactly do you expect from your own linux distribution? Some special functionality you are missing? Some speciall installer, interface, packages? Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests me for the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer has about 1 systems at about 500 locations. Remote systems are categorized as one of 3 types/configurations. Automated management of them is essential, including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and greatest as stability is very important. Upgrades need to just work, and not require manual intervention. Currently, they're all on Windows in one form or another (ugh!). The systems in question have very limited capabilities, and the people on site have very limited permissions. Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect someone to realize the value of Linux for this. I'd like to have a solution in my mind when the time comes. I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this. There is no doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates. I'm not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Hi, Am Dienstag, 18. Juli 2006 14:35 schrieb David Corbin: Not wanting to hijack the thread from the OP, but this subject interests me for the following reason. I work on a software system where one customer has about 1 systems at about 500 locations. Remote systems are categorized as one of 3 types/configurations. Automated management of them is essential, including upgrades, but seldom upgrades to the latest and greatest as stability is very important. Upgrades need to just work, and not require manual intervention. Currently, they're all on Windows in one form or another (ugh!). The systems in question have very limited capabilities, and the people on site have very limited permissions. Other potential customers have similar size systems, and I certainly expect someone to realize the value of Linux for this. I'd like to have a solution in my mind when the time comes. I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this. There is no doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates. I'm not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. have a look at rocklinux (http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Main_Page) It's a Distribution Build Kit. I tried it some time ago and was really impressed. David Hand, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 15:09, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: have a look at rocklinux (http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Main_Page) It's a Distribution Build Kit. I tried it some time ago and was really impressed. Similar services are offered also by [1] and [2]. HTH [1] http://euronode.com [2] http://www.instalinux.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
Makara wrote: Hi all, I'm from Cambodia. I'm a new gentoo user and a new member also. Could anyone tell me how to create my own linux distribution? I have tried LFS but it's not what I need it just tell how to build linux from scratch. I tried to search on google but I got nothing. Please give me any information and what should I have to learn to build my own linux distribution? sorry for my english. Start with Linux From Scratch and then find a packaging system to your liking so that you can maintain your choice builds. Consider RPM, APT, or even Portage for starters. You WILL find it is not as easy as you think if it is just you [one person] trying to maintain it. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to create my own linux distribution
David Corbin wrote: I've considered the idea of a custom distribution to do this. There is no doubt in my mind, that any such distribtuion would be based on an existing one, with tweaks that deal with where updates come from, and what packages are availble, etc. Gentoo or Debian are the two likely candidates. I'm not *sure* a customized distribution is appropriate. There's an excellent reason why Gentoo is seriously leaning towards calling itself a metadistribution. Look into tools such as catalyst. You can build LiveCDs for installing into a known-good environment, Stage 4 archives that require minimal configuration after installation, or even (since, as you mentioned, the targets fall into a few distinct categories) full disc images on (a) local staging box(es) and simply image everything across to the targets. If you're uncomfortable with having a production system loaded with gcc, portage, and such, you can build your own releases locally, and simply batch update the targets when convenient. The images built by catalyst are *not* required to contain portage or the portage tree. Portage and catalyst are *very* powerful tools if you look into their depths. Rsync and friends used in conjunction with a local staging system can IMO make maintaining such a system incredibly easy. Yes, I'm available for consulting. :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
