RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
Indeed it did. :) You had me at EHLO --E.Webb (10.04.05) -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:02 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:24:25 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 754 billion emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 'world' or 'system' wants to upgrade. Dig? Dig! Did putting the correct line in package.mask get round this? -- Neil Bothwick The present never ages. Each moment is like a snowflake, unique, unspoiled, unrepeatable, and can be appreciated in its surprisingness. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:24:25 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 754 billion emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 'world' or 'system' wants to upgrade. Dig? Dig! Did putting the correct line in package.mask get round this? -- Neil Bothwick The present never ages. Each moment is like a snowflake, unique, unspoiled, unrepeatable, and can be appreciated in its surprisingness. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
Well, I followed the wiki instructions on my Dell i8200 / nvidianotebook, and now X7 won't start. I was getting some help on this list, but everyone is out of ideas or it's just lost in the sea of other emails. I don't want my server to succumb to the same fate. I figured I'd just wait it out till I either figure out how to get X7 working, or, it works itself out. From: Jeff Rollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:17 PMTo: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgSubject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 Daevid,What reason do you have for not wanting to upgrade to R7, if I may ask? For me it's because it's masked, but I see you already use the ~x86 tree for some packages. Once it's stable it should be fine, though. Yeah, it's a nitpick, but the biggest change I don't like to X was made several releases ago ( -- spreading X all over /usr instead of keeping it in /usr/X11R6). If it weren't there for hysterical raisins, though, it should of course be in /opt. Was that change made by the X.org people or just by the Gentoo people?Jeff.
RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:06 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 You did the opposite of what you wanted to do...you masked out only the current 6.8 version. What you want is: =x11-base/xorg-x11-7 However, I doubt there will be any more releases of 6.x. You may also find yourself masking out more and more parts of the modular X tree. If you want to keep updating this system, avoiding modular X is going to be more and more difficult. Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine with leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever. I'm in no rush. But it was preventing me from doing an emerge -Davu world to see what else I might need (such as the new rails) BTW, did you happen to try the open-source nv driver on your laptop? No. I haven't had time to mess around with X7 on my notebook. I get so frustrated with Linux sometimes. I swear I'm on the verge of getting a Mac Pro (now that you can dual boot XP/OSX) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:13:52 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine with leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever. What type of server is this that depends on X? -- Neil Bothwick Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (Yep/Nope) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:21:44 -0500, Thomas G. Willis wrote: I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0. All I get is 6.8.2-r6 Maybe it's cuz of the amd64? 7.0 is not available in amd64, you need ~amd64. -- Neil Bothwick Programming Language: (n.) a shorthand way of describing a series of bugs to a computer or a programmer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
It doesn't depend on X. I happen to have X on it and type startx on occasion -- mostly to run meld for my etc-updates. It comes in handy for other debugging for apache/mysql/php too. The server runs LAMP stuff, mail, mailman, firewall, dhcpd, ntp, etc. However, b/c I do have X installed, I couldn't get past the 754 billion emerge dependencies that X7 had ~x86 masked, to see what a 'world' or 'system' wants to upgrade. Dig? -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:37 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:13:52 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: Well. The server is critical. I can't have that be down, so I'm fine with leaving X6 for now till X7 is figured out or whatever. What type of server is this that depends on X? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:45:34PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions that come along). I've had no luck getting it to work on my Dell notebook, and I fear it will only be equally painful on my server. * x11-base/xorg-x11 Latest version available: 7.0-r1 Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6 I did this: server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 I think you need to add =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 Bigger or equal to Regards Alex -- Alexander H. Faeroey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint: 12DB 25B5 7DFF C115 2E33 A6E4 E97C 67DA 72F0 B5D4 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 You did the opposite of what you wanted to do...you masked out only the current 6.8 version. What you want is: =x11-base/xorg-x11-7 However, I doubt there will be any more releases of 6.x. You may also find yourself masking out more and more parts of the modular X tree. If you want to keep updating this system, avoiding modular X is going to be more and more difficult. BTW, did you happen to try the open-source nv driver on your laptop? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:45:34 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 But when I do an emerge -Davu world it still tries to pull xorg dependencies: Because you have masked one specific version. 6.8.2-r6 is masked, 7.0 and up are not. The correct entry to put in package.mask is =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0 -- Neil Bothwick If a stealth bomber crashes in a forest, will it make a sound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:45:34PM -0700, Penguin Lover Daevid Vincent squawked: * x11-base/xorg-x11 Latest version available: 7.0-r1 Latest version installed: 6.8.2-r6 server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 You don't want that. You want: =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0 What you have would mask the version you currently have installed, which would force a upgrade if available, or a downgrade otherwise. W -- Chocolate is a Vegetable: Chocolate is derived from cocoa beans. Bean = vegetable. Sugar is derived from either sugar CANE or sugar BEETS. Both are plants, which places them in the vegetable category. Thus, chocolate is a vegetable. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 145 days, 14:37 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
Daevid,What reason do you have for not wanting to upgrade to R7, if I may ask? For me it's because it's masked, but I see you already use the ~x86 tree for some packages. Once it's stable it should be fine, though. Yeah, it's a nitpick, but the biggest change I don't like to X was made several releases ago ( -- spreading X all over /usr instead of keeping it in /usr/X11R6). If it weren't there for hysterical raisins, though, it should of course be in /opt. Was that change made by the X.org people or just by the Gentoo people?Jeff.
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thursday 06 April 2006 23:59, Alexander H. Faeroey wrote: server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 I think you need to add =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 Bigger or equal to NO! That would force him to downgrade. He only wanted to mask version 7 and up. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Thursday 06 April 2006 23:45, Daevid Vincent wrote: How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions that come along). [SNIP] server portage # cat /etc/portage/package.mask =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 But when I do an emerge -Davu world it still tries to pull xorg dependencies: !!!(dependency required by x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1 [ebuild]) I *DO* have this in my package.keywords file, along with a bunch of other ones for KDE/Gnome/etc: x11-base/xorg-x11 ~x86 But shouldn't the 'mask' file have priority? You really seem to have misunderstood the concept of masked packages. Richard and Neil have told you what to do but I would advise you to read the following: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap4 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3 -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular(although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versionsthat come along). I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0. All I get is 6.8.2-r6 Maybe it's cuz of the amd64? -- Thomas G. Willis---http://i-see-sound.comhttp://tomwillis.sonicdiscord.com America, still more rights than North Korea
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't want to upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0
On Friday 07 April 2006 02:21, Thomas G. Willis wrote: On 4/6/06, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I prevent my server from upgrading to Xorg 7.0 modular (although ideally, I would like to upgrade any 6.x regular Xorg versions that come along). I have the opposite want/need. I want xorg-x11-7.0. All I get is 6.8.2-r6 Maybe it's cuz of the amd64? no it is because of ~amd64 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
