Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:22 on Monday 30 May 2011, Colleen Beamer 
did opine thusly:

 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:47 AM, James Wall wallservi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have had that particular problem if I mounted /dev before extracting
  the stage3 tarball. Just follow those instructions and you sill be fine.
  
  James Wall
 
 I tried doing the steps that I found in my google search as previously
 posted.  It somewhat resolved the problem, but I still got error messages.
 Since I was tired at this point, I gave up.
 
 This morning, I tried what was suggested and used an earlier stage 3
 tarball (Apr. 24th, I believe it was).  This solved the problem and I was
 able to boot.  Must have been an issue with the stage 3 tarball I had
 previously tried.
 
 Thanks for the help and comments, everyone!

If you are interested in that kind of thing, the full detail of what the 
problem is can be found here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368597



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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread James Wall
I have had that particular problem if I mounted /dev before extracting the
stage3 tarball. Just follow those instructions and you sill be fine.

James Wall


Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread Colleen Beamer
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:47 AM, James Wall wallservi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have had that particular problem if I mounted /dev before extracting the
 stage3 tarball. Just follow those instructions and you sill be fine.

 James Wall

I tried doing the steps that I found in my google search as previously
posted.  It somewhat resolved the problem, but I still got error messages.
Since I was tired at this point, I gave up.

This morning, I tried what was suggested and used an earlier stage 3 tarball
(Apr. 24th, I believe it was).  This solved the problem and I was able to
boot.  Must have been an issue with the stage 3 tarball I had previously
tried.

Thanks for the help and comments, everyone!

Regards,

Colleen


Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all,

this issue is being worked currently. The bug you want to follow is
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368597

William



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[gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hi,

I've been trying to update my gentoo system for a couple of months and
couldn't seem to resolve block issues.  Since it has been a couple of years
or more since i did a fresh install, I decided to do one.

I followed the handbook - 1st run, I screwed up and missed a step, 2nd run,
I was careful that I didn't miss anything and I couldn't boot, the 3rd time
I rechecked everything and the same issue arose.

I am able to get my boot menu, the drivers appear to load - the last one
being tg3 which is the one that was typically loaded last on my old gentoo
install.  However, after this I get this message:

ERROR: your real /dev is missing files required to boot (console and null)..

When I was in the chroot'd environment and after I had done the 'mount
--rbind /dev ' command, I checked and there appeared to be a console
file there.  This is just and fyi

Anyway, I did a google search and this was one of the responses:

Some stage3 archives lack few items (like /dev/console and /dev/null)
necessary for boot.
To fix your installation, you need to:
- mount your gentoo root device in read/write mode (for example to
/mnt/gentoo)
- create missing pseudo-files (something like the following):
mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/console c 5 1
mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/null c 1 3
- unmount your gentoo root device or execute sync command
- reboot

Since I am a chicken-shit, I am deferring to the more knowledgeable people
on this list and asking, is this a valid fix or is there a better one.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,

Colleen


Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Colleen Beamer 
did opine thusly:

 Hi,
 
 I've been trying to update my gentoo system for a couple of months and
 couldn't seem to resolve block issues.  Since it has been a couple of years
 or more since i did a fresh install, I decided to do one.
 
 I followed the handbook - 1st run, I screwed up and missed a step, 2nd run,
 I was careful that I didn't miss anything and I couldn't boot, the 3rd time
 I rechecked everything and the same issue arose.
 
 I am able to get my boot menu, the drivers appear to load - the last one
 being tg3 which is the one that was typically loaded last on my old gentoo
 install.  However, after this I get this message:
 
 ERROR: your real /dev is missing files required to boot (console and
 null)..
 
 When I was in the chroot'd environment and after I had done the 'mount
 --rbind /dev ' command, I checked and there appeared to be a console
 file there.  This is just and fyi
 
 Anyway, I did a google search and this was one of the responses:
 
 Some stage3 archives lack few items (like /dev/console and /dev/null)
 necessary for boot.
 To fix your installation, you need to:
 - mount your gentoo root device in read/write mode (for example to
 /mnt/gentoo)
 - create missing pseudo-files (something like the following):
 mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/console c 5 1
 mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/null c 1 3
 - unmount your gentoo root device or execute sync command
 - reboot
 
 Since I am a chicken-shit, I am deferring to the more knowledgeable
 people on this list and asking, is this a valid fix or is there a better
 one.

Google is correct, just do it. All you are doing is making files somewhere 
that have special characteristics (i.e. you are not unleashing Armageddon or 
looking Medusa in the eye)

But you looked in the wrong place. null and console must be in /dev on the 
root partition *before* mounting /dev, you looked after. The reason it must be 
there before is that null and console are needed very early in the boot 
process at a point before udev runs. After udev runs it is no longer relevant 
as udev will provide those nodes.

I wonder if you haven't just tripped over a bug in baselayout or recent 
stage3's. I just did a new install here but used an old stage3 that was still 
baselayout-1. I did not run into the issues you did. What does b.g.o. say?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 29 May 2011 21:57:21 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 22:35 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Colleen Beamer
 
 did opine thusly:
  Hi,
  
  I've been trying to update my gentoo system for a couple of months and
  couldn't seem to resolve block issues.  Since it has been a couple of
  years or more since i did a fresh install, I decided to do one.
  
  I followed the handbook - 1st run, I screwed up and missed a step, 2nd
  run, I was careful that I didn't miss anything and I couldn't boot, the
  3rd time I rechecked everything and the same issue arose.
  
  I am able to get my boot menu, the drivers appear to load - the last one
  being tg3 which is the one that was typically loaded last on my old
  gentoo install.  However, after this I get this message:
  
  ERROR: your real /dev is missing files required to boot (console and
  null)..
  
  When I was in the chroot'd environment and after I had done the 'mount
  --rbind /dev ' command, I checked and there appeared to be a console
  file there.  This is just and fyi
  
  Anyway, I did a google search and this was one of the responses:
  
  Some stage3 archives lack few items (like /dev/console and /dev/null)
  necessary for boot.
  To fix your installation, you need to:
  - mount your gentoo root device in read/write mode (for example to
  /mnt/gentoo)
  - create missing pseudo-files (something like the following):
  mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/console c 5 1
  mknod /mnt/gentoo/dev/null c 1 3
  - unmount your gentoo root device or execute sync command
  - reboot
  
  Since I am a chicken-shit, I am deferring to the more knowledgeable
  people on this list and asking, is this a valid fix or is there a better
  one.
 
 Google is correct, just do it. All you are doing is making files somewhere
 that have special characteristics (i.e. you are not unleashing Armageddon
 or looking Medusa in the eye)
 
 But you looked in the wrong place. null and console must be in /dev on the
 root partition *before* mounting /dev, you looked after. The reason it must
 be there before is that null and console are needed very early in the boot
 process at a point before udev runs. After udev runs it is no longer
 relevant as udev will provide those nodes.
 
 I wonder if you haven't just tripped over a bug in baselayout or recent
 stage3's. I just did a new install here but used an old stage3 that was
 still baselayout-1. I did not run into the issues you did. What does
 b.g.o. say?

I'm sure that I've come across the same problem some time in the distant past 
and had to create these two nodes manually.

However, it should be easy to prove if this is a bug or not - look in the 
stage3 tar file for /dev/console and /dev/null?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:56 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Mick did opine 
thusly:

  I wonder if you haven't just tripped over a bug in baselayout or recent
  stage3's. I just did a new install here but used an old stage3 that was
  still baselayout-1. I did not run into the issues you did. What does
  b.g.o. say?
 
 I'm sure that I've come across the same problem some time in the distant
 past  and had to create these two nodes manually.
 
 However, it should be easy to prove if this is a bug or not - look in the 
 stage3 tar file for /dev/console and /dev/null?

True enough recent stage 3 tarballs for amd64 on my mirror are either faulty 
or do not contain /dev/console.

May 20 and 26 are faulty

April 28 is OK

Colleen, you should follow the tip you found on Google to fix this. What stage 
3 did you download and use?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Colleen Beamer
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apparently, though unproven, at 23:56 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Mick did opine
 thusly:

   I wonder if you haven't just tripped over a bug in baselayout or recent
   stage3's. I just did a new install here but used an old stage3 that was
   still baselayout-1. I did not run into the issues you did. What does
   b.g.o. say?
 
  I'm sure that I've come across the same problem some time in the distant
  past  and had to create these two nodes manually.
 
  However, it should be easy to prove if this is a bug or not - look in the
  stage3 tar file for /dev/console and /dev/null?

 True enough recent stage 3 tarballs for amd64 on my mirror are either
 faulty
 or do not contain /dev/console.

 May 20 and 26 are faulty

 April 28 is OK

 Colleen, you should follow the tip you found on Google to fix this. What
 stage
 3 did you download and use?


Actually, I used the most recent one - I think May 26th,  However, my first
install (that I screwed up on was the May 25th one, but I got the same
message.  Don't know if it makes a difference, but I used a tarball for x86.

Think I'll try the fix that I found on google first before attempting to
find a stage 3 tarball that is not faulty.

BTW, I can't recall from previous installs when I'm supposed to do this, but
I thought that baselayout got emerged somewhere during the install prior to
rebooting.  There was no place in the handbook that mentioned installing
baselayout .. and yes, I did read the news item about baselayout2 and
openrc migration.

Regards,

Colleen






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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:09 on Monday 30 May 2011, Colleen Beamer 
did opine thusly:

  Colleen, you should follow the tip you found on Google to fix this. What
  stage
  3 did you download and use?
 
 Actually, I used the most recent one - I think May 26th,  However, my first
 install (that I screwed up on was the May 25th one, but I got the same
 message.  Don't know if it makes a difference, but I used a tarball for
 x86.

I'm not sure how the stages are built. it might be a hand-crafted list of 
stuffs, or maybe it's a script that builds the (mostly) same thing for each 
arch.

I reckon the latter, in which case x86 and amd64 will probably give similar 
results.

 Think I'll try the fix that I found on google first before attempting to
 find a stage 3 tarball that is not faulty.

The google fix will work. Really, trust me, I'm a sysadmin :-)

It's just a missing file that the install process should have made. You simply 
need to make it manually.

 BTW, I can't recall from previous installs when I'm supposed to do this,
 but I thought that baselayout got emerged somewhere during the install
 prior to rebooting.  There was no place in the handbook that mentioned
 installing baselayout .. and yes, I did read the news item about
 baselayout2 and openrc migration.

The initial stage contains baselayout already, it's one of those things that 
is absolutely needed for a gentoo system to even exist at all. All a stage 
really is, is a large archive of an actual install with all it's various bits 
- files, dirs, and the matching entries in portage's database of things 
installed.

OK, it's not really built like that but the analogy will suffice. The end 
result is the same and portage cannot tell the difference between baselayout 
coming out of the stage and you installing it yourself.

The only time you install baselayout during an install is when you update 
world and there's a newer baselayout available than the one in the stage. 
That's true for almost every package in portage (except kernel sources, those 
are special)


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[gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread Ian K
Hi there,
When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
I get:

chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
error

Any ideas?
Thanks!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread Jason Cooper
Ian K ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
 I get:
 
 chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
 error

Does the arch of the stage tarball you installed match the arch of the 
processor?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
Have you untared your stage file already?
Have you mounted all the partitions?

Give us some more info so we can help you

2005/9/1, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi there,
 When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
 I get:
 
 chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
 error
 
 Any ideas?
 Thanks!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread John Jolet
I get that when I boot from a 32-bit boot disk and try to chroot into a 64-bit 
environmentor vice versa
On Thursday 01 September 2005 19:06, Ian K wrote:
 Hi there,
 When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash,
 I get:

 chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
 error

 Any ideas?
 Thanks!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread Mark Shields
My guess this is normal, since you need either: amd64 install disk or
ia64 install disk: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xmlOn 9/1/05, John Jolet 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I get that when I boot from a 32-bit boot disk and try to chroot into a 64-bit
environmentor vice versaOn Thursday 01 September 2005 19:06, Ian K wrote: Hi there, When I run chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash, I get: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue, I need a solution quickly..

2005-09-01 Thread John Jolet
On Thursday 01 September 2005 21:52, Mark Shields wrote:
 My guess this is normal, since you need either: amd64 install disk or ia64
 install disk: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml

yes, it is...but I was saying that is the message I get when, say I boot my 
x86_64-built box with the rescue cd for partimage purposes and try to chroot 
in there.  He seems to have done something similar.
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