Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken? [SOLVED]

2015-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 10:50:53 I wrote:

 Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl
 virtuals. Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner
 gives it a list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with
 them - it just exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of
 files that it can't do anything with.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 I've restored from last week's backup and added the offending perl
 packages to package.mask, but is that the right thing to do?

For the record, my problem has now been fixed, together with some others I 
hadn't reported here. It was a combination of bad CFLAGS (and CXXFLAGS) and 
too ambitious MAKEOPTS.

Specifically, I recommend that any advice to set -march=corei7 on an i5 
system should be firmly resisted.

Thanks to those who took an interest and offered help.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 06 April 2015 04:30:35 I wrote:

 After a bit more thought I remember that GCC was upgraded last week, and
 the change log referred to many bug fixes. (That's what my memory tells
 me, anyway, but I can't see where I found it now.) So I decided to emerge
 -e world, which I did in two passes: first emerge -eB world, then boot to
 a minimal system and emerge -eK world. Then etc-update and reboot,
 compile the kernel again (gentoo-sources-3.18.9) and a final reboot.
 
 Maybe something went wrong in the middle of that, so I've set off the same
 process again. It'll take a few hours, so I'm off to bed again meanwhile
 - it's 04:30 here.

Well, after 18 hours of that emerge -e world, I started the completely 
rebuilt system, removed those three packages from package.mask:

$ cat /etc/portage/package.mask
=sys-boot/grub-2.00
=sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.109 
#
#=dev-lang/perl-5.20.2
#~virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.480.100
#~virtual/perl-Storable-2.490.100

...and ran perl-cleaner again. Same result - portage exited silently when 
given the list of packages to install.

Next, eselect python set 1 set the main active version from its previous 
3.3 to 2.7, just in case of some problem with 3.3. No difference.

Then I chose one of the silently ignored packages and tried to emerge it 
myself, but still portage did nothing:

-
$ sudo emerge -1av dev-perl/Text-WrapI18N 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB

Nothing to merge; quitting.
-

Yet the package is in the database:

$ eix -Ic dev-perl/Text-WrapI18N 
[I] dev-perl/Text-WrapI18N (0.60.0-r1{tbz2}@10/02/15): Internationalized 
substitute of Text::Wrap

Today's routine sync and update has pulled two packages in: gentoo-
sources-3.18.11 and chromium-41.0.2272.118. Gentoo-sources has just been 
installed and I'm compiling the new kernel; chromium will take longer.

This just gets weirder and weirder. When does portage do what it's told and 
when does it not?   ;)

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
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Am Dienstag, 7. April 2015, 11:20:07 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
 Then I chose one of the silently ignored packages and tried to emerge it 
 myself, but still portage did nothing:
 
 -
 $ sudo emerge -1av dev-perl/Text-WrapI18N 
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies   done!
 
 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
 
 Nothing to merge; quitting.
 -

Yeah, looks strange. Anything in your make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS ?

- -- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 22:12:57 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 7. April 2015, 11:20:07 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
  Then I chose one of the silently ignored packages and tried to emerge it
  myself, but still portage did nothing:
  
  -
  $ sudo emerge -1av dev-perl/Text-WrapI18N
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies   done!
  
  Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
  
  Nothing to merge; quitting.
  -
 
 Yeah, looks strange. Anything in your make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS ?

 $ grep EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS /etc/portage/make.conf
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n --changed-use --keep-going --nospinner 
--quiet-unmerge-warn

$ cat make.conf # I made a local copy and removed a lot of comments
#CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -pipe [1]
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=corei7 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CPU_FLAGS_X86=mmx mmxext popcnt sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
ACCEPT_LICENSE=dlj-1.1 google-chrome Intel-SDP sun-bcla-java-vm 
Oracle-BCLA-JavaSE PUEL AdobeFlash-11.x googleearth
ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel
CHECKREQS_ACTION=error
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt 
/usr/share/consolefonts /usr/bin/startx 
/usr/share/applications/boincmgr-boinc.desktop
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/init.d /etc/pam.d
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n --changed-use --keep-going --nospinner 
--quiet-unmerge-warn
FEATURES=buildpkg buildsyspkg
FETCHCOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget --progress=bar:force -t 2 -T 30 --passive-ftp -O 
\\${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}\ \\${URI}\
ftp_proxy=http://serv.prhnet:8080;
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/gentoo/
http://mirror.qubenet.net/mirror/gentoo/
http://gentoo.virginmedia.com/;
GRUB_PLATFORMS=pc
http_proxy=http://serv.prhnet:8080;
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8
LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS=pdfimport
LINGUAS=en_GB en
MAKEOPTS=-j -l16
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_NICENESS=3
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/var/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
RESUMECOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget --progress=bar:force -c -t 2 -T 30 --passive-ftp 
-O \\${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}\ \\${URI}\
USE=-bluetooth -fortran -gcj -gnome -iodbc -ldap -lirc -nis -odbc -systemd 
-thin -upower
mmx mmxext popcnt sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3

VIDEO_CARDS=nouveau

[1] This bothers me. Various docs tell me to specify march=core17, but this
is an i5 CPU. Could this be my problem?

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 07 April 2015 22:24:38 Peter Humphrey wrote:

 $ cat make.conf   # I made a local copy and removed a lot of comments
 #CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -pipe [1]

---8

 [1] This bothers me. Various docs tell me to specify march=core17, but
 this is an i5 CPU. Could this be my problem?

s/17/i7/

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 Apr 2015 22:48:54 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 07 April 2015 22:24:38 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  $ cat make.conf # I made a local copy and removed a lot of comments
  #CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -pipe [1]
 
 ---8
 
  [1] This bothers me. Various docs tell me to specify march=core17, but
  this is an i5 CPU. Could this be my problem?
 
 s/17/i7/

I doubt it, but is there any reason you do not use:

-march=native 

instead of core2 or i7 ?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 21:05:15 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 19:03:43 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
  On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
   Do you see anything that is actually broken?
  
  Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting silently after being
  given a list of packages to emerge doesn't exactly seem like normal
  behaviour to me. It was told emerge -v1 ...[list of packages] as in
  perl- cleaner's usual behaviour. No ifs, no buts - just do it.
 
 Very strange. Portage does to my best knowledge not use perl and not even
 depend on it.

After a bit more thought I remember that GCC was upgraded last week, and the 
change log referred to many bug fixes. (That's what my memory tells me, 
anyway, but I can't see where I found it now.) So I decided to emerge -e 
world, which I did in two passes: first emerge -eB world, then boot to a 
minimal system and emerge -eK world. Then etc-update and reboot, compile the 
kernel again (gentoo-sources-3.18.9) and a final reboot.

Maybe something went wrong in the middle of that, so I've set off the same 
process again. It'll take a few hours, so I'm off to bed again meanwhile - 
it's 04:30 here.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 12:24:20 Mick wrote:

---8

 and then portage proceeds in emerging them.  So something must not be
 right with your circumstances, but I am not sure what ...

It has me scratching my head too. Thanks for the report.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Mick
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 10:50:53 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals.
 Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a
 list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just
 exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of files that it
 can't do anything with.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 I've restored from last week's backup and added the offending perl packages
 to package.mask, but is that the right thing to do?

This sounds odd.  I emerged virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.64.0 yesterday, 
but haven't sync'ed today.  perl-cleaner gives me this:

=
# perl-cleaner --reallyall
 * Removing perl-core packages from world file
 *emerge --deselect  perl-core/Data-Dumper perl-core/File-Temp perl-
core/Module-Build perl-core/libnet 
 No matching atoms found in world favorites file...
 * Updating installed Perl virtuals
 *emerge -u1  virtual/perl-Archive-Tar virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta 
virtual/perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 virtual/perl-
Compress-Raw-Zlib virtual/perl-Data-Dumper virtual/perl-Digest-MD5 
virtual/perl-Digest-SHA virtual/perl-Encode virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder 
virtual/perl-ExtUtils-Install virtual/perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker virtual/perl-
ExtUtils-Manifest virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS virtual/perl-File-Spec 
virtual/perl-File-Temp virtual/perl-Getopt-Long virtual/perl-IO virtual/perl-
IO-Compress virtual/perl-JSON-PP virtual/perl-MIME-Base64 virtual/perl-Module-
Build virtual/perl-Module-Metadata virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta virtual/perl-
Perl-OSType virtual/perl-Scalar-List-Utils virtual/perl-Storable virtual/perl-
Test-Harness virtual/perl-Test-Simple virtual/perl-Text-ParseWords 
virtual/perl-Time-Local virtual/perl-libnet virtual/perl-version 
Calculating dependencies... done!
 Auto-cleaning packages...

 No outdated packages were found on your system.

 * Beginning a clean up of .ph files
 * Excluding files for 0.0.0 and 0.0.0/x86_64-linux from cleaning

 * Locating ph files for removal

 * Updating ph files.
 * Ignore all No such file... messages!
Can't open machine/ansi.h: No such file or directory
Can't open sys/_types.h: No such file or directory
Can't open gnu/stubs-x32.h: No such file or directory
Can't open gnu/stubs-x32.h: No such file or directory
Can't open gnu/stubs-x32.h: No such file or directory
Can't open gnu/stubs-x32.h: No such file or directory

 * Locating packages for an update
 * Locating ebuilds linked against libperl
 *   Adding to list: perl-core/libnet:0
 *   virtual/perl-libnet:0
 *   Adding to list: perl-core/File-Temp:0
 *   virtual/perl-File-Temp:0
 *   Adding to list: perl-core/Data-Dumper:0
 *   virtual/perl-Data-Dumper:0
 *   Adding to list: perl-core/Module-Build:0
 *   virtual/perl-Module-Build:0
 *   Adding to list: x11-terms/rxvt-unicode:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-vcs/git:0
 *   Adding to list: net-irc/irssi:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTML-Parser:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/File-BaseDir:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-LibXML:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/File-Listing:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Encode-Locale:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/File-MimeInfo:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-SAX:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/DateManip:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTTP-Negotiate:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-SAX-Base:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/WWW-RobotRules:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Archive-Zip:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Locale-gettext:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/URI:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/libwww-perl:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTTP-Daemon:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Net-HTTP:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Error:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-Parser:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Authen-SASL:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/LWP-Protocol-https:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTML-Tagset:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/LWP-MediaTypes:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Net-SSLeay:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/Digest-HMAC:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTTP-Message:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/JSON:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/XML-Simple:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTTP-Cookies:0
 *   Adding to list: dev-perl/HTTP-Date:0
 *   Adding to list: media-libs/exiftool:0
 * emerge -v1 --backtrack=100 perl-core/libnet:0 virtual/perl-libnet:0 perl-
core/File-Temp:0 virtual/perl-File-Temp:0 perl-core/Data-Dumper:0 
virtual/perl-Data-Dumper:0 perl-core/Module-Build:0 virtual/perl-Module-
Build:0 x11-terms/rxvt-unicode:0 dev-vcs/git:0 net-irc/irssi:0 dev-perl/HTML-
Parser:0 dev-perl/File-BaseDir:0 dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL:0 dev-perl/XML-

Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/04/2015 11:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. 
 Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a 
 list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just 
 exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of files that it can't 
 do anything with.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 I've restored from last week's backup and added the offending perl packages 
 to package.mask, but is that the right thing to do?
 


When I occasionally run into bizarre weirdness like this, I usually wait
one hor, re-sync and try again. If it still fails, then go looking further.

Significant updates to the CVS tree are not atomic and every now and
then you can do a sync while a dev is making his own updates. Especially
in the light that it all works fine for Mick.

If you use a third party tree mirror, you can also update against the
master at rsync.gentoo.org to get the very latest tree.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. 
Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a 
list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just 
exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of files that it can't 
do anything with.

What's going on here?

I've restored from last week's backup and added the offending perl packages 
to package.mask, but is that the right thing to do?

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
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Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 11:50:53 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
 Hello list,
 
 Today's routine update included dev-lang/perl-5.20.2 and two perl virtuals. 
 Since emerging those portage has stopped working: perl-cleaner gives it a 
 list of 71 packages to emerge but portage does nothing with them - it just 
 exits silently. Then perl-cleaner lists some hundreds of files that it can't 
 do anything with.
 

Do you see anything that is actually broken?

Minor updates (5.x.y - 5.x.y+1) do not need any rebuilds or reinstallations of 
modules.

Not 100% sure what perl-cleaner does when you run it anyway. Maybe it 
reinstalls all, but it's not necessary.

[Side note, your information on what perl-cleaner does is very vague, I can't 
distll anything useful out of it.]


- -- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 13:44:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 When I occasionally run into bizarre weirdness like this, I usually wait
 one hour, re-sync and try again. If it still fails, then go looking
 further.
 
 Significant updates to the CVS tree are not atomic and every now and
 then you can do a sync while a dev is making his own updates. Especially
 in the light that it all works fine for Mick.

Nope. Didn't help. I re-synced 11 hours later but got the same result.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:

 Do you see anything that is actually broken?

Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting silently after being 
given a list of packages to emerge doesn't exactly seem like normal 
behaviour to me. It was told emerge -v1 ...[list of packages] as in perl-
cleaner's usual behaviour. No ifs, no buts - just do it.

 Minor updates (5.x.y - 5.x.y+1) do not need any rebuilds or
 reinstallations of modules.
 
 Not 100% sure what perl-cleaner does when you run it anyway. Maybe it
 reinstalls all, but it's not necessary.

I just ran it to see what it'd do. I got more than I'd bargained for.

 [Side note, your information on what perl-cleaner does is very vague, I
 can't distll anything useful out of it.]

The two virtuals were perl-File-Spec-3.480.100 and perl-Storable-2.490.100. 
I hope you don't want me to list the hundreds of files it can't handle.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Is perl broken?

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
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Am Sonntag, 5. April 2015, 19:03:43 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
 On Sunday 05 April 2015 18:29:05 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
 
  Do you see anything that is actually broken?
 
 Apart from perl-cleaner and portage? Emerge exiting silently after being 
 given a list of packages to emerge doesn't exactly seem like normal 
 behaviour to me. It was told emerge -v1 ...[list of packages] as in perl-
 cleaner's usual behaviour. No ifs, no buts - just do it.

Very strange. Portage does to my best knowledge not use perl and not even 
depend on it.

- -- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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