Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Thanks for the advice so far.  Here are some more obstacles encountered.
 
 Kworldview : no longer an independent app (as in 3.5.10),
 but seems to have been incorporated into Marble (no problem with that).
 I have a file '/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-kworldclock.desktop',
 which belongs to Marble, but I can't find a way to use it in Marble.
 
 Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10
  also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 .
 
 Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ?
 -- eg I really don't like the wider toolbars in 4.3.1
  would like to have smaller icons  no accompanying descriptions.

btw - try right click on the toolbars ;)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 
 Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10
  also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 .

it is a bug. If you search for it you'll find it. cc yourself to be informed if 
something happens.

 
 Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ?

no. You need systemsettings. kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so. You need 
systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. 

There is always the hard one - edit config files

  would like to have smaller icons  no accompanying descriptions.

you can change it to do that ;)



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-24 Thread Philip Webb
090924 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10
  also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 .
 it is a bug.  If you search for it you'll find it.

I plan to add to the Konsole bug re 'geometry'  look up other bugs,
when I've finished basic exploration  testing.

 Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ?
 no.  kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so.
 You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way. 
 There is always the hard one - edit config files

Actually, that's what I might look into: Kcontrol is its dependency.

  would like to have smaller icons  no accompanying descriptions.
 you can change it to do that ;)

So how (smile) ? -- ie without running the KDE 4 desktop.

Thanks for your clear  helpful advice.

PS does anyone have advice re the 3rd issue, Kworldclock vs Marble ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-24 Thread Sebastian Beßler

Philip Webb schrieb:


The version for 3.5.10 doesn't work on the Fluxbox desktop:
it opens but lacks the list of options on the left side.


The version for 3.5.10 can configure only kde3 apps. If you have no kde
3.5 to configure on your system kcontrol has nothing to show in the left
panel.


Would I have more success with 4.3.1 (there are  8  dependencies)?


I would say so, but i can't say for sure, because I don't use Fluxbox.
KDE 4-Apps can only be configured with systemsettings (or by editing the
config files by hand).

Greetings

Sebastian




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 090924 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
  Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10
   also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 .
 
  it is a bug.  If you search for it you'll find it.
 
 I plan to add to the Konsole bug re 'geometry'  look up other bugs,
 when I've finished basic exploration  testing.
 
  Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ?
 
  no.  kcontrol is just a couple of kcm*.so.
  You need systemsettings if you want to change anything the easy way.
  There is always the hard one - edit config files
 
 Actually, that's what I might look into: Kcontrol is its dependency.
 
   would like to have smaller icons  no accompanying descriptions.
 
  you can change it to do that ;)
 
 So how (smile) ? -- ie without running the KDE 4 desktop.
 

either in systemsettings or in the config files ;) Everything is in .kde(or 
.kde4 or .kde4.3)/share/config

in systemsettings symbol size is in... ehm... Look (? Erscheinungsbild in 
german ), Symbols, advanced (or how it is called in english). There you 
can change Symbol sizes for toolbars. Text under icons can be deactivated 
under 'Style' 'Details'.

or you open the config file for every app ;)



[gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 : further queries

2009-09-23 Thread Philip Webb
Thanks for the advice so far.  Here are some more obstacles encountered.

Kworldview : no longer an independent app (as in 3.5.10),
but seems to have been incorporated into Marble (no problem with that).
I have a file '/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-applet-kworldclock.desktop',
which belongs to Marble, but I can't find a way to use it in Marble.

Gwenview : can one view hidden files ? -- it's under 'view' in 3.5.10
 also assigned to Control-H , but nowhere to be seen in 4.3.1 .

Kcontrol : might this help with configuring KDE 4.3.1 apps ?
-- eg I really don't like the wider toolbars in 4.3.1
 would like to have smaller icons  no accompanying descriptions.
The version for 3.5.10 doesn't work on the Fluxbox desktop:
it opens but lacks the list of options on the left side.
Would I have more success with 4.3.1 (there are  8  dependencies) ?

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca